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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1141
Two games in a row one side losses all but 3 of their workers lol
kickazs
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway540 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1142
Finally is Kyrix out of Code S it seems. Shouldn't be a huge loss
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1143
realized he didn't have enough for nydus pop-up lol
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1144
On September 07 2011 20:05 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 20:04 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:03 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:02 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 20:00 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:57 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:56 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)LosirA
vs
(Z)Kyrix
on
Tal'Darim Altar

2:00
FE for Losira
14g14p for Kyrix

4:00
Kyrix expands on 21 while Losira gets a spine crawler at natural and baneling nest

7:25
Banelings waddle into the Kyrix main and kill 5 drones. Kyrix says: My turn.

9:00
Both players Lair complete at the same time. Losira instantly drops a spire. Kyrix starts +1 ranged attack and roach speed.

11:00
Kyrix starts his third base and continues to pump roaches. The spire finishes for Losira and instantly 10 mutalisks start. Kyrix starts a hydra den though.

12:00
Nydus worm starts for Kyrix.

13:30
9 hydras complete just seconds after all the drones die at the natural. But a nydus pops in Losiras main. Losira loses concentration and loses a lot of mutas to hydras. The nydus is taken out after some drone losses but
Kyrix has 3 drones remaining.

15:00
Kyrix gg's after coming to terms with losing all his drones. Kyrix goes to Code A
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1145
Poll: Recommend Kyrix vs Losira ?

No (12)
 
48%

Yes (7)
 
28%

If you have time (6)
 
24%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Kyrix vs Losira ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Twinfun
Profile Joined September 2010
United States156 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1146
"He actually just needs to leave the game."

Lol.
HerO | Byun
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1147
if losira wins his next game and mc wins his next two..and check wins...mc in codeA and losira/check move on
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1148
NesTea was right about what he said in group selections I guess
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1149
On September 07 2011 20:06 kickazs wrote:
Finally is Kyrix out of Code S it seems. Shouldn't be a huge loss


Even though it's 1 less non-Terran in Code A, I'm very happy he's finally gone.
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1150
Yeah finally Kyrix Code A.
MMA | MC | Dear
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 11:07:36
September 07 2011 11:06 GMT
#1151
On September 07 2011 20:03 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 19:58 Heavenly wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:54 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:48 Heavenly wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:47 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:43 Dommk wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:39 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2011 19:37 Dommk wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:30 NewteN wrote:
[quote]

It's retarded is what it is. This is MC, not some bronze leaguer who's somehow going to not do enough damage with 11 +1 zealots, a sentry for ramp and 3-4 VRs for him to outright lose the game if it doesn't win right then and there. MAYBE Kyrix holds, but how the F is he going to win if MC loses 11 lots/sent and probably saves 2-3 VRs???

No tech? He's up to +1 and a Stargate? He's walled. I seriously have no idea why this is cheese or all-in.

That was all-in as all-in gets.

Did you look at the saturation of his natural? He only had two mining per patch on both bases, with no gas taken. On top of that he had 300gas in the bank.

If that attacked failed, if the pylon got scouted, if the Zerg saw it coming then MC would have been done. It may still have done a little damage but there is no chance in hell that he can win from there.

Protoss isn't like Terran, you can't recover from low-econ all-ins as well as Terran can because of how reliant you are on a good econ and gas.



Protoss doesn't really bank resources and 2 on each patch is optimal as the third only mines half.

40 probes 10mins into the game is not optimal by any means.

He was banking gas because he was building nothing but Zealots. Though at the end he made some sentry warp-ins and burned it all

Regardless it was an all-in. 40 Probes just doesn't cut it considering in the next few minutes you have to rebuild an army AND Tech AND build another 20~ Probes.

Chronoboost probes for the first few minutes your mineral spending increases as you are producing probes at a faster rate, it takes a minute or two before the Probes kick in and pay themselves off, unlike Mules which are almost instant gain


Yeah but your also kind of implying that it would be better to try and compete with zerg in a macro sense. Much better to just go fucking kill him when he has no units. Ultra fast 3rd? Yeah might as well give up on a macro game as any race. Better to just go end the game.


Or tech and secure your 3rd base and get decent upgrades and a deathball. Na nevermind he should do an "aggressive timing attack" (all-in) to finish the game.


And be massively behind because Kyrix made nothing but drones that entire time and teched to hydras extremely fast to deal with any possible pressure beyond colossi which would have taken forever to make in sufficient numbers to attack and move across the map, putting Kyrix in an amazing mid game position.


Yeah, pressure into a 3rd base couldn't of done any damage or force units out of the zerg player. (sorry for the sarcasm) This is more of a problem with going FFE and not having any potential to put pressure on without going horribly all-in.

MC just decided he wanted to end the game after the FFE with an all-in, eventually I think better players will go for more macro oriented builds by feigning an all-in attack and build up to late game. Different people like playing differently though, and his decision in that game wasn't bad...but it was aggressive.

Also, this is over a game old in a LR thread, I'm going to just shush and watch the games.


MC is a better player than you despite how clever you think you are and how much you think you understand the game. If he didn't think it was a good build he wouldn't have revealed it when he had a risk of falling down into Code B. It's always silly arguing with the keyboard warriors who try and say what the "better payers" would do. How would he have feigned an all in, exactly? Since Kyrix didn't even bother scouting and just did what he wanted to under the assumption that he would be massively ahead if MC did choose to play a macro game (which he almost always does nowadays)? Show a ton of zealots and voidrays in the middle of the map and have the possibility of all those units being picked off and it being insta-gg because he would never secure a third?

But yeah, let's watch the game.


Not trying to be a keyboard warrior (how else should I have this conversation), I was just bouncing off what I think about the game. Better player to me might be an idiot to other people, Artosis has probably just infected my brain with wanting macro players and macro builds. I thought that MC executed it well, I just am not a fan of those types of (all-innish) builds.

Anyone who doesn't use all ins and never take risks will never get anywhere, ever.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 07 2011 11:07 GMT
#1152
On September 07 2011 20:06 Twinfun wrote:
"He actually just needs to leave the game."

Lol.


Funny as hell :D
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
September 07 2011 11:07 GMT
#1153
lol kyrix should've crushed the mutas but he got supply blocked for like 2 minutes :|
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
September 07 2011 11:07 GMT
#1154
On September 07 2011 20:06 Sc2Null wrote:
if losira wins his next game and mc wins his next two..and check wins...mc in codeA and losira/check move on


How do you figure? How does 3-way tie work? If MC wins next two, then that would mean he beats Check, so MC, Check, and Losira would all be 3-1.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1155
"I just want to rock all night long..." What the fuck does that have to do with Starcraft 2 >,<

Interesting music choice...
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1156
without Kyrix then who Nestea will pick now
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1157
On September 07 2011 20:07 dmnum wrote:
lol kyrix should've crushed the mutas but he got supply blocked for like 2 minutes :|

Spore crawlers.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1158
Best kpop video :D
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38239 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1159
Oh, they finally swapped the players up in the GSkill advert? ^^
ebGInfidel
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands9 Posts
September 07 2011 11:08 GMT
#1160
Ahw yeah Sistar time!
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