[GSL] August Up&Down Day 2

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Singapore15360 Posts

September 07 2011 11:08 GMT

#1161

oh god ST_Legend

Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

September 07 2011 11:08 GMT

#1162

Legend does not disappoint...

Medrea

10003 Posts

September 07 2011 11:08 GMT

#1163

On September 07 2011 20:08 Silentness wrote:
"I just want to rock all night long..." What the fuck does that have to do with Starcraft 2 >,<

Interesting music choice...

I was wondering why he had the hydra den a ton of money and no things.

lardroom

United States1017 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1164

I love you, ST_Legend!

DisaFear

Australia4074 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1165

Here we go again

Femari

United States2900 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1166

You would Legend.

etrensce

Australia337 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1167

ST_Legend never disappoints

KiNGxXx

7928 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1168

THIS IS SEXY!

Montana[TK]

1624 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1169

imo ST_Legend should be allowed to broadcast softporn between games.

At least that's what he seems to gravitate towards

Williammm

Australia908 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1170

Fanclub Legend now!

JKira

Canada1002 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1171

Sistar <3

MrCon

France29748 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1172

Sad for Kyrix and Zenex, but he "deserves" it.
Good for check and Prime tho.
And yeah to those semi pornographic video clips @ST_Legend <3

Cramsy

Australia1100 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1173

Dat Hyorin.

God I hope Losira makes it through :/

Demonace34

United States2493 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1174

On September 07 2011 20:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:

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On September 07 2011 20:03 Demonace34 wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:58 Heavenly wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:54 Demonace34 wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:48 Heavenly wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:47 Demonace34 wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:45 Medrea wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:43 Dommk wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:39 Medrea wrote:

On September 07 2011 19:37 Dommk wrote:

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That was all-in as all-in gets.

Did you look at the saturation of his natural? He only had two mining per patch on both bases, with no gas taken. On top of that he had 300gas in the bank.

If that attacked failed, if the pylon got scouted, if the Zerg saw it coming then MC would have been done. It may still have done a little damage but there is no chance in hell that he can win from there.

Protoss isn't like Terran, you can't recover from low-econ all-ins as well as Terran can because of how reliant you are on a good econ and gas.

Protoss doesn't really bank resources and 2 on each patch is optimal as the third only mines half.

40 probes 10mins into the game is not optimal by any means.

He was banking gas because he was building nothing but Zealots. Though at the end he made some sentry warp-ins and burned it all

Regardless it was an all-in. 40 Probes just doesn't cut it considering in the next few minutes you have to rebuild an army AND Tech AND build another 20~ Probes.

Chronoboost probes for the first few minutes your mineral spending increases as you are producing probes at a faster rate, it takes a minute or two before the Probes kick in and pay themselves off, unlike Mules which are almost instant gain

Yeah but your also kind of implying that it would be better to try and compete with zerg in a macro sense. Much better to just go fucking kill him when he has no units. Ultra fast 3rd? Yeah might as well give up on a macro game as any race. Better to just go end the game.

Or tech and secure your 3rd base and get decent upgrades and a deathball. Na nevermind he should do an "aggressive timing attack" (all-in) to finish the game.

And be massively behind because Kyrix made nothing but drones that entire time and teched to hydras extremely fast to deal with any possible pressure beyond colossi which would have taken forever to make in sufficient numbers to attack and move across the map, putting Kyrix in an amazing mid game position.

Yeah, pressure into a 3rd base couldn't of done any damage or force units out of the zerg player. (sorry for the sarcasm) This is more of a problem with going FFE and not having any potential to put pressure on without going horribly all-in.

MC just decided he wanted to end the game after the FFE with an all-in, eventually I think better players will go for more macro oriented builds by feigning an all-in attack and build up to late game. Different people like playing differently though, and his decision in that game wasn't bad...but it was aggressive.

Also, this is over a game old in a LR thread, I'm going to just shush and watch the games.

MC is a better player than you despite how clever you think you are and how much you think you understand the game. If he didn't think it was a good build he wouldn't have revealed it when he had a risk of falling down into Code B. It's always silly arguing with the keyboard warriors who try and say what the "better payers" would do. How would he have feigned an all in, exactly? Since Kyrix didn't even bother scouting and just did what he wanted to under the assumption that he would be massively ahead if MC did choose to play a macro game (which he almost always does nowadays)? Show a ton of zealots and voidrays in the middle of the map and have the possibility of all those units being picked off and it being insta-gg because he would never secure a third?

But yeah, let's watch the game.

Not trying to be a keyboard warrior (how else should I have this conversation), I was just bouncing off what I think about the game. Better player to me might be an idiot to other people, Artosis has probably just infected my brain with wanting macro players and macro builds. I thought that MC executed it well, I just am not a fan of those types of (all-innish) builds.

Anyone who doesn't use all ins and never take risks will never get anywhere, ever.

Wasn't arguing that, it turned from an argument if what MC did was in fact an all-in build. Then it turned into people saying it wasn't, and then me arguing that PERSONALLY I don't like to see all-innish builds. As I said a dozen times before, MC executed that build well, even if I do consider it to be all-in.

Vindicare605

United States16122 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1175

On September 07 2011 20:08 parazice wrote:
without Kyrix then who Nestea will pick now

Whoever he wants.

ForTheDream

Germany1780 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1176

good pick ST_Legend, baller observer has baller decision making

netsky4

Austria511 Posts

September 07 2011 11:09 GMT

#1177

Not Kpop again >.<

JKira

Canada1002 Posts

September 07 2011 11:10 GMT

#1178

On September 07 2011 20:09 Montana[TK] wrote:
imo ST_Legend should be allowed to broadcast softporn between games.

At least that's what he seems to gravitate towards

When will you realize that the only difference between softcore porn and KPOP is that KPOP comes with music?

DrunkenTemplar

Australia647 Posts

September 07 2011 11:10 GMT

#1179

is it just me or does it look like they are fanning a fart when they dance? anyway, min chul better stay in code S