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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
 ? + Show Spoiler + а Иван Маркович не будет сотрудничать сегодня. что неудача, это может занять в два раза дольше. Этот парень заставит меня сойти с ума, если он не сложится в ближайшее время. I swear the contents in the spoiler are spoilered for a reason. Shed a tear for NG, I don't think WoS was stupid as at that time it made more sense. pointing out town mistakes can be scummy. However, I don't think Ace is scum. Mind=blown and I need to get back to work. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Especially when we're converting things like "Chezinu" to other languages, there's no reason to bother doing that and it just makes things more complicated than they need to be. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:14 austinmcc wrote: Can people please stop posting in foreign languages? The rules in the OP don't forbid it, but most games now come with a "don't encrypt" warning, and some past game involved people speaking in a foreign language as a form of soft-encryption. Especially when we're converting things like "Chezinu" to other languages, there's no reason to bother doing that and it just makes things more complicated than they need to be. Ok. I will stop 100%. Will put "Russian <whatever the hell I would have said>". Actually posting it in Russian was only mildly important to me, and none of this is role required, so at the cost of being detrimental to town it isn't worth it. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:01 Ace wrote: @Boson: what was the actual case for Austin? 1) Town austin is involved. Town austin makes cases and is aggressive. Here is absolutely passive and non-committing. 2 Austin blatantly lied here: On July 08 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote: What is my town meta? More specifically, my town meta in a large game? Also, do you have interest in the answers to the questions that I have asked, but have not gotten answers to? He's alluding to the fact that his town meta in a large game is pretty much the same as in this game. Here I explain this is just not true: On July 08 2013 22:51 Z-BosoN wrote: austin, I don't think you can get away with justifying your play here with a "go look at my town meta in a larger game". Here's your filter from Liquid City: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=austinmcc You seemed a ton more interested in the game. Here the only part where I felt you interested is when you were defending yourself. Can you give me something on Alaskaslam? You had some interaction with him, and I'd like to know your opinion on him atm. As scum, it's very easy and convenient to say: "just look at my meta and you will see that [ . . . ]", because obviously no one is gonna open his earlier games and check on whether that's true or not. I feel that if he were town, he would more likely admit that his meta was different in this game, rather than imply that it is the same. Funnily enough, he later admits to being lazy/reactive, even though he tried to meta-defend himself earlier. Makes little sense to me. 3. Austin's posts so far have little substance. They contain a high amount of fluff and are generally not what I would expect from a townie him. "stop posting so much!!!", for example, I have never seen him display that sort of feeling: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=30#593 I view this more as a "look at me, I'm reading the thread and am being pained by how many useless posts there are", to show that he's interested. As it stands, what his filter tells me is in exact contrast, that he doesn't really feel interested in the game. These are the reasons so far I think he is a good lynch. I want him to respond though. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:03 austinmcc wrote: If Ace is scum and we don't have one super mega leading candidate because of good case/trustable check/etc. etc., why would he advocate no-lynching? Given the lack of clear target, scum could easily push a lynch onto a townie with a small amount of work and like...two or three votes max probably. Because it's just plurality lynch and is currently dis-organized, there's no reason for scum to try for a "no-lynch" when they could get a lynch on a townie. Moreover, I don't read Ace's post as pushing for a no-lynch.
We don't know all the roles and rules here, but we DO know that Dude X getting nuked does not mean that Dude X will die, for a number of reasons. Hm. Well, okay. I can see him posting that as town as well, but it's still weird to focus on stuff like that instead of scumhunting (and why so early on anyway?). On to more important matters for today however... | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:09 Xatalos wrote: Whatever, I guess it's a waste of time atm to talk about Ace. I still feel like austinmcc has a good chance of being scum. See my earlier (2 I think) case-posts about him. It's not making me feel any better that he still hasn't done anything after hastily defending himself against me. He hasn't really done anything remarkable at all besides defending my pressure. But he's not getting lynched today clearly. I'm fine with either Chezinu or Dandel Ion, who are the top lynch candidates atm. Chezinu for nuking me and not doing anything after that despite requests and Dandel Ion for playing very differently from his town meta and quite much like his scum meta (inactive and useless). Well, doesn't it make sense for a scum chezinu to make some bullshit reason up for sending a nuke towards you? I don't really understand his play, and like I said earlier, I feel he is better suited for blues. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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Z-BosoN
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:59 Stutters695 wrote: SnB nuke fishing doesn't mean he's not town though, could be something as simple as a vet to God knows how crazy. if he wanted to get nuked so he would gain power and he was town he would just tell town "hey i get this power by being nuked, who wants to nuke me" not try and draw nukes by trolling | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:57 Z-BosoN wrote: I'm still lagged behind, and I don't see the purpose of your conversation. You are hinting aggression towards ace with few hours left on the vote deadline, when he is clearly not getting lynched We should be focusing on whether or not we are going through a policy lynch or if we should try to find a better suspect. I don't like a policy lynch and I want to find a better suspect to suggest we lynch. Austin seems like a solid choice, and I am prompting for him to answer before I go balls out. Also, just stfu about chezinu. So much pointless discussion on someone who is so random and hard to read. If he were scum, why wouldn't he also explain his "bad nuke"? I can't make sense from his play and I feel it's just a wasted effort, and thus will not bother with it. I may be dead wrong here, but he is better suited for blue roles (checks and such). I feel austin is the better choice here. Veyne is also good, but I want to save him for later. what do you mean by the bolded | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I mean that I don't want to lynch him today ^^ | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:57 Alakaslam wrote: ... Wow this is true, that would be a great way for town cred and pushing agenda all in one post! Just one question........ .... What scum role has that power, and why save either townie? Is the cred really worth it? i have no clue what scum role has what power but in a game with (presumably) a bajillion town nukes, it makes a lot of sense for there to be a scum antinuke. as for the other part, why save as scum - first, i'm not sure that xatalos isn't scum as well, and second, getting a lot of town cred now (which lets you not get lynched or nuked) could have been something he thought was worth using up the antinuke (which would probably get him lynched if he used it later to save a teammate) for. Or he just yolo'd it, idk. point is, i can imagine reasons for that as scum, but the way he thought about it doesn't make sense to me if hes town. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote: I mean that I don't want to lynch him today ^^ but you think hes scum? | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote: probably that scum wants to try and mislynch me tomorrow lawl. You. Check this out. What do you think of Alakaslam? He kinda wants you dead dude. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: This lynch looks so bad and we should be lynching Chezinu. why is chezinu more likely scum than dandyloin ps 'because chezinu did something stupid' is not a good reason until we know whether or not the stupid thing targeted townies or other scum. since chezinu is so willing to play badly as town, its impossible to tell his alignment until we have flips to analyze his actions in relationship to. or until someone vigs him. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:35 strongandbig wrote: why is chezinu more likely scum than dandyloin ps 'because chezinu did something stupid' is not a good reason until we know whether or not the stupid thing targeted townies or other scum. since chezinu is so willing to play badly as town, its impossible to tell his alignment until we have flips to analyze his actions in relationship to. or until someone vigs him. If anyone disagrees with this bit on chezinu, please step up. Regarding dande lion, why do so many people want to lynch him for being useless and not Abenson and caucasianasian, who are even more useless? Can anyone please be clear on this? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:32 Z-BosoN wrote: You. Check this out. What do you think of Alakaslam? He kinda wants you dead dude. I don't see a case in his filter so I assume he's just sheeping. His posts are plentiful and annoying to read so if I have to deal with him endgame then so be it but right now I am just ignoring him. After all, it's not in either of our interests to try to convince the other that they are scum; rather efforts should be made to convince others. Until he starts doing the latter then he is not really threatening if he's scum. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
The Dandel lynch looks pretty heavily like a convenient mislynch wagon. Chezinu could be legit scum. I still don't trust WoS and would love to lynch him but I doubt that's happening. So I vote that we start getting rid of some of the fluff. Biggest fluffy scummy lurker is CA | ||
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