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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 08 2013 17:38 GMT
#1081
On July 09 2013 02:34 strongandbig wrote:
also did anyone say anything about the thing i posted before?

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 02:47 strongandbig wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
this looks like a bus nuke so hard. xat gonna flip red ye


If catalogs flips red va is scum. Who would actually think this as town. Much more likely scum trying to capitalize off of their teammate dying.

If catalogs is town then forget this it's just va being stupid.


that really looks like a weird thing that va said.


I'm not sure what you said in your response.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 17:38 GMT
#1082
On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
That was a stupid decision WoS.


Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.


I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.


Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 08 2013 17:38 GMT
#1083
NG what are your strongest reads, or at least the ones with the most solid reasoning.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 08 2013 17:38 GMT
#1084
I'm going to channel Nirvana.Gabo and think all of you are completely brain-dead, especially johnnywup.
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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#1085
On July 09 2013 02:28 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:25 Z-BosoN wrote:
Ace, how is "not calling you "probably town" taking things way too far?


I was talking about your comment saying I was defending rayne. Before you said it was a soft defense, now you make it seem as if I was there stopping him from getting votes. He was fine on his own.


Whatever it is you understood of my meaning, I'm Just concerned your defense of him was pointless and had no real town motivation for it.
Anyways, I'm not gonna make a fuss about it, I'm not calling you "prob town", and you are also not getting lynched and we need to settle on who we want to lynch.

Right now I am contemplating whether I'll just go with a policy lynch on some lurker, or if we should lynch someone else.

Alakaslam I don't like his Posting, but I don't want him dead yet. Who's down for a vayne lynch??

strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#1086
On July 09 2013 02:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:32 strongandbig wrote:
looks like i missed some nuke defenses (on pretty good targets) and some more nukes

and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise)

so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess


Can you respond to this please?

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 03:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
SnB those are some bold words especially considering I was a main advocate for Johnny and only recently took my vote off him due to the sheer anger he seems to be displaying towards me for pushing him (which doesn't appear faked).
What is scummy about Johnny's post aside from what I've mentioned? Rayn seems to think it's pretty towny and it echoes his thoughts.

Also I super disagree with you regarding gumshoe.



yeah sure

jonnywups post:

On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote:
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow


(1) lists every lurker in the game. no good reason to do that, its a waste of effort for town cause everyone can look for themselves whether a player has posted. literally no one will give a single shit about that list. however, its a convenient way for scum to pad out the post.

(2) excessive focus only on people who voted him rather than looking for reads and pursuing them throughout the game. indicates a "get people off of me" mentality rather than a "find who's scum" mentality.

(3) votes for wos, doesn't actually explain any reasons why he's scum except "look at before" despite talking about other players.

(4) his reasons for omgussing people voting him are all pretty bad; there's nothing about tanggang or abenson explaining why they have a scum mentality or whatever. goes wiht the "get people to stop voting me" rather than "find who's scum" mentality thing.

why did people say this was a townie looking post?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#1087
On July 09 2013 02:37 johnnywup wrote:
I think S&B might just be stupid.

in my experience he is not
100% in their own words, seriously
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#1088
On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
That was a stupid decision WoS.


Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.


I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.


Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?

Ace seems to have the idea that there are a lot of fake nukes flying around.
He thinks Chez's nuke that Oats shot down is fake, and he wants us to 'back up' one of the nukes with votes so we can have 2 daytime KP or something.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#1089
On July 09 2013 02:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:32 strongandbig wrote:
looks like i missed some nuke defenses (on pretty good targets) and some more nukes

and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise)

so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess



What am I supposed to do, show you the breadcrumbs from all the nights I've protected people and explain my pattern of protecting? It's D1.


write it like you mean it

or play so as not to get nuked, idk.

there's no reason to believe you either, i'm much more okay with saving someone like mz who has been actively contributing in a townie way or with holding a save for later rather than saving you.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#1090
On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
That was a stupid decision WoS.


Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.


I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.


Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?


It is not a no lynch. Read what I said again. If we can't come to a consensus - vote on the person getting nuked.

Here is a question. If I'm advocating a No lynch who was I trying to save from dying?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 08 2013 17:41 GMT
#1091
On July 09 2013 02:39 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:37 johnnywup wrote:
I think S&B might just be stupid.

in my experience he is not


nah just busy and lazy
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 08 2013 17:41 GMT
#1092
On July 09 2013 02:39 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:32 strongandbig wrote:
looks like i missed some nuke defenses (on pretty good targets) and some more nukes

and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise)

so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess


Can you respond to this please?

On July 08 2013 03:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
SnB those are some bold words especially considering I was a main advocate for Johnny and only recently took my vote off him due to the sheer anger he seems to be displaying towards me for pushing him (which doesn't appear faked).
What is scummy about Johnny's post aside from what I've mentioned? Rayn seems to think it's pretty towny and it echoes his thoughts.

Also I super disagree with you regarding gumshoe.



yeah sure

jonnywups post:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote:
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow


(1) lists every lurker in the game. no good reason to do that, its a waste of effort for town cause everyone can look for themselves whether a player has posted. literally no one will give a single shit about that list. however, its a convenient way for scum to pad out the post.

(2) excessive focus only on people who voted him rather than looking for reads and pursuing them throughout the game. indicates a "get people off of me" mentality rather than a "find who's scum" mentality.

(3) votes for wos, doesn't actually explain any reasons why he's scum except "look at before" despite talking about other players.

(4) his reasons for omgussing people voting him are all pretty bad; there's nothing about tanggang or abenson explaining why they have a scum mentality or whatever. goes wiht the "get people to stop voting me" rather than "find who's scum" mentality thing.

why did people say this was a townie looking post?

I personally didn't think that post seemed very townie at all. It was a later response of his that made me change my mind. It was Rayn who found it townie and as I recall his reasoning was that it 'echoes his thoughts.'
I'm still pretty sure Johnny is town at this point despite the early scumminess.
SnB who (else) is scum?
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Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 08 2013 17:42 GMT
#1093
On July 09 2013 02:40 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:32 strongandbig wrote:
looks like i missed some nuke defenses (on pretty good targets) and some more nukes

and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise)

so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess



What am I supposed to do, show you the breadcrumbs from all the nights I've protected people and explain my pattern of protecting? It's D1.


write it like you mean it

or play so as not to get nuked, idk.

there's no reason to believe you either, i'm much more okay with saving someone like mz who has been actively contributing in a townie way or with holding a save for later rather than saving you.


I've already been nuked. I'm just gonna write a couple cases and when I flip town people will evaluate them. There's really no need to play so I do not get nuked, when I have already been nuked. Read thread bro
100% in their own words, seriously
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 08 2013 17:43 GMT
#1094
On July 09 2013 02:39 strongandbig wrote:
yeah sure

jonnywups post:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote:
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow


(1) lists every lurker in the game. no good reason to do that, its a waste of effort for town cause everyone can look for themselves whether a player has posted. literally no one will give a single shit about that list. however, its a convenient way for scum to pad out the post.

(2) excessive focus only on people who voted him rather than looking for reads and pursuing them throughout the game. indicates a "get people off of me" mentality rather than a "find who's scum" mentality.

(3) votes for wos, doesn't actually explain any reasons why he's scum except "look at before" despite talking about other players.

(4) his reasons for omgussing people voting him are all pretty bad; there's nothing about tanggang or abenson explaining why they have a scum mentality or whatever. goes wiht the "get people to stop voting me" rather than "find who's scum" mentality thing.

why did people say this was a townie looking post?


My thought was that there is too much evidence. Even when it was pointed out, johnnywup didn't change. Scum should have a bit more self-consciousness. Then again while we are on the subject of bad play then johnnywup can be just showing bad scum play. A few slips would be more telling. A lot of slips doesn't give as much information.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 17:43 GMT
#1095
On July 09 2013 02:40 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
That was a stupid decision WoS.


Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.


I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.


Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?


It is not a no lynch. Read what I said again. If we can't come to a consensus - vote on the person getting nuked.

Here is a question. If I'm advocating a No lynch who was I trying to save from dying?


Chezinu? Dandel Ion? They seem to be somewhat even atm so it's possible that you're scum with one of them and wanted to ensure that nobody got lynched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 08 2013 17:46 GMT
#1096
On July 09 2013 02:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:40 Ace wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:33 Ace wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote:
That was a stupid decision WoS.


Less stupid than no-lynching today Ace... In fact, infinitely less stupid. A beacon of brilliance compared to your ideas.


I've never advocated no lynching. Stop saying that.


Lynching someone who was going to die anyways = no-lynch. It's simple logic. How can you refute that?


It is not a no lynch. Read what I said again. If we can't come to a consensus - vote on the person getting nuked.

Here is a question. If I'm advocating a No lynch who was I trying to save from dying?


Chezinu? Dandel Ion? They seem to be somewhat even atm so it's possible that you're scum with one of them and wanted to ensure that nobody got lynched.

That seems pretty unlikely to me really. Ace appears to believe what he's saying; what I don't really get is why he felt so strongly about it.
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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 08 2013 17:46 GMT
#1097
@austin still waiting for you reply, my friend.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 17:47 GMT
#1098
(Votecount pls btw)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#1099
Ok this has been bugging me a little.
Who has played with Boson before/
Boson why do you tend not to contribute to conversations taking place and help us out with those and instead follow your own trains of thought and lines of questioning all game? Can you not do both?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#1100
Look at who was leading when I posted that. Dandel didn't have many votes, and Chezinu was leading. I then voted from Chezinu to Dandel.

Why would I be trying to save the people I'm voting for? :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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