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gostunv
Japan1178 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:09 deafhobbit wrote: Agreed. Sea is way too good to have never won a starleague. except that he has never made it past RO16 except once or something like that. he just aint good in individual leagues.  | ||
Milkis
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:28 gostunv wrote: except that he has never made it past RO16 except once or something like that. he just aint good in individual leagues. :sad: In spite of that, he maintains near 60% winrates in all 3 matchups, and has been a consistently good player since he started in 2005. Now that fantasy has finally won one, i think Sea is pretty undisguisedly the best active player to not have won an OSL or MSL. In proleague, he can beat anyone, in starleagues pretty much anyone can beat him. Agree,  | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:32 deafhobbit wrote: In spite of that, he maintains near 60% winrates in all 3 matchups, and has been a consistently good player since he started in 2005. Now that fantasy has finally won one, i think Sea is pretty undisguisedly the best active player to not have won an OSL or MSL. In proleague, he can beat anyone, in starleagues pretty much anyone can beat him. Agree, I'd say Zero is the best active player to have not won a starleague. Sea is just completely outclassed by the best players, while Zero is actually good enough to beat anyone when he's at his best. | ||
white_horse
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:45 DarkMatter_ wrote: Agreed. With Zero, you basically have the gamesense and strategy that can exceed Jaedong's, allowing to take down anyone. The mechanics, multitasking unfortunately arent quite as good which might be why.I'd say Zero is the best active player to have not won a starleague. Sea is just completely outclassed by the best players, while Zero is actually good enough to beat anyone when he's at his best. However | ||
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zakk
Poland21 Posts
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IAttackYou
United States330 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:52 xarthaz wrote: Agreed. With Zero, you basically have the gamesense and strategy that can exceed Jaedong's, allowing to take down anyone. The mechanics, multitasking unfortunately arent quite as good which might be why. However I never got the impression that Zero's mechanics are what let him down. He comes up with some really good strategies and builds and he's got the mechanics to execute them properly, but I think his overall game sense isn't as good as Jaedong's and as a zerg player, where even a small oversight can cost you the game, that's probably why he tends to be a bit inconsistent. | ||
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gostunv
Japan1178 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:49 white_horse wrote: there are a lot of players who are really good in proleague and overall winrate but underperform in individual leagues. theres just a psychological or mental thing that separates players like flash and players like sea. I really do wish people like sea or leta do well in individual leagues, they are really solid players prolly the killer instinct is missing. the ability to not give a F about anybody else but yourself winning is required to excel in head to head matches. this is the reason why i say Tiger Woods struggles now. When he was out and about fuckin every 8 and up he saw he was straight murdering people. Now that hes been neutered he can barely make cuts. also a reason why i say females have a hard time still competing against males in non-physical competitive activities. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:31 Milkis wrote: if no one does flash interview (hi Smix), I'll do it around 7 o clock CDT Thanks. I'm still F5'ing.  | ||
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Milkis
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 22 2011 05:00 gostunv wrote: prolly the killer instinct is missing. the ability to not give a F about anybody else but yourself winning is required to excel in head to head matches. this is the reason why i say Tiger Woods struggles now. When he was out and about fuckin every 8 and up he saw he was straight murdering people. Now that hes been neutered he can barely make cuts. also a reason why i say females have a hard time still competing against males in non-physical competitive activities. Stats is the best example of this, the guy went insane berserker mode in the WL recently(oke he didn't do that well at the end, but you get the point). Then he gets taken out quite easily. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On April 22 2011 04:49 white_horse wrote: there are a lot of players who are really good in proleague and overall winrate but underperform in individual leagues. theres just a psychological or mental thing that separates players like flash and players like sea. I really do wish people like sea or leta do well in individual leagues, they are really solid players Sea is a solid player, but getting Ro8 consistently is pretty solid. And that's about where i would put sea at most points in time: low end of the top 8, sometimes top 12. Today didn't have much to do with condition, a focused sea will still lose to Flash/jaedong, even if they aren’t at peak performance. So, jaedong has once again pulled himself within one win of matching flash head to head. Definitely the best rivalry; so close performance wise, 5 titles apiece, consistently high level games. Gotta love it. | ||
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
On April 22 2011 05:28 hacklebeast wrote: Sea is a solid player, but getting Ro8 consistently is pretty solid. And that's about where i would put sea at most points in time: low end of the top 8, sometimes top 12. Today didn't have much to do with condition, a focused sea will still lose to Flash/jaedong, even if they aren’t at peak performance. So, jaedong has once again pulled himself within one win of matching flash head to head. Definitely the best rivalry; so close performance wise, 5 titles apiece, consistently high level games. Gotta love it. I feel sea is definitely among the best, but he just isn't on that final "plateau" with Jaedong, Flash, Bisu, Stork, and Fantasy. Almost there, but not really. On top of that Sea is one of the worst players at controlling his nerves, which explains why he always does so well in proleague while sucking big time in solo league important matches where he's facing elimination. | ||
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CoffeeJelly
Canada53 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.plu.cn/d/file/sc/note/2011-04-21/fbddc58ef86abd25f85f7a0080ead468.jpg) - How does it feel to be the last survivor of group D? ▲I'm very happy to have survived the death group. Today, I thought I'd either get two wins or lose all my games but I manage to win the last game and advanced. Even though I lost to Jaedong, I was able to pass so it worked out. I will perform better in the next game. - For the first game you played, the proxy barrack was scouted, what are your thoughts? ▲ I prepared a special tactic for today, but it didn't work as planned. I felt very disappointed as a result. - Did you prepare these special tactics due to the map? ▲ During the SWL final, Bisu used one gate fast expand and triumphed, so I was thinking about returning the favor. (Laugh) - Explain about your match against Jaedong in the winners match. ▲ I didn't prepare anything special against Jaedong. I was very confident I would win, because it was a vZ on Circuit Breaker. Jaedong played very good today, and I wasn't able to demonstrate my superb lategame play. A 1-1 upgraded army is rather resilient but I still lost all my forces easily and it was very discouraging. After the match, I didn't even have the will to think about the next one. I started panicing. - What do you think you could've done better? ▲Though its in hindsight, I feel if I used vultures all in, that unit can't lose, but I couldn't help it that I didn't have any scans left. - What were your thoughts after the group ceremony? ▲ To be honest, I thought this would be a tough fight if the groups were split this way. Even though I am very pessimistic, I will try to relax more. - In the Ro16, you will be playing Really. ▲ He is a very good player, so I can't underestimate him. I will prepare accordingly. - In the all star game, was using carrier a psychological tactic? ▲ I never thought about it that way, maybe if I did I would be a genius (laugh). All star was prepared exclusively to cater our fans; I was only having fun. - The SPL 5R is about to start. ▲ I won't say anything here but strangely, the power level of my teammates has increased overwhelmingly. It's giving me a headache (Laugh) especially Hoejja and Barrack; you can expect those two to perform exceptionally if they can play as well as they did in practice. - Did you expect to advance with Jaedong? ▲ I am very happy about my own advancement. I never thought about who I was going to advance with, including jaedong, because they are all good friends with me. I feel bad about the rest that did not advance. - Any last word? ▲ Recently, I had a few personal issues which made it difficult for me to play. I want to thank Reach for giving me a lot of support. Some of my fans might not know this, Reach was a pillar of support to me. I am very thankful to have him and hope he will help, not only myself, but the rest team so we (KT) can be even better. *Source http://sc.plu.cn/note/2011-04-22/27270.html* ** Thanks for the help! If anything needs adjustment let me know. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On April 22 2011 06:28 CoffeeJelly wrote: + Show Spoiler + - How does it feel to be the last survivor of group D? ▲I'm very happy to have survived the death group. Today, I thought I'd either get two wins or lose all my games but I manage to win the last game and advanced. Even though I lost to Jaedong, I was able to pass so it worked out. I will perform better in the next game. - For the first game you played, the proxy barrack was scouted, what are your thoughts? ▲ I prepared a special tactic for today, but it didn't work as planned. I felt very disappointed as a result. - Did you prepare these special tactics due to the map? ▲ During the SWL final, Bisu used one gate fast expand and triumphed, so I was thinking about returning the favor. (Laugh) - Explain about your match against Jaedong in the winners match. ▲ (T/N -神马 what is this? Flash said he didn't need this against JD) Against Jaedong, I have every confidence to win, because it was a vZ on Circuit Breaker. Jaedong was playing very good today, and I wasn't feeling particularly confident going into lategame. Even though I had one armor and one attack upgrade, I lost all my forces easily and it discouraged me greatly. After the match, I didn't even have the will to think about the next one. I started panicing. - What do you think you could've done better? (T/N - not the best translation here but its something along the line of "what were your regrets?") ▲ It's a bit late but if I had used 雷车, there was no way I could've lost but I didn't see it on the minimap. 虽然有点马后炮了，但我还是觉得我用雷车拼的话是这种兵力不可能输的，但无奈没有雷达了。 // Help me with this one. // - What were your thoughts after the group ceremony? ▲ To be honest, I thought this would be a tough fight if the groups were split this way. Even though I am very pessimistic, I will try to relax more. - In the Ro16, you will be playing Really. ▲ He is a very good player, so I can't underestimate him. I will prepare accordingly. - In the all star game, was using carrier a psychological tactic? ▲ I never thought about it that way, maybe if I did I would be a genius (laugh). All star was prepared exclusively to cater our fans; I was only having fun. - The SPL 5R is about to start. ▲ I won't say anything here but strangely, the power level of my teammates has increased overwhelmingly. It's giving me a headache (Laugh) especially Hoejja and Barrack; you can expect those two to perform exceptionally if they can play as well as they did in practice. - Did you expect to advance with Jaedong? ▲ I am very happy about my own advancement. I never thought about who I was going to advance with, including jaedong, because they are all good friends with me. I feel bad about the rest that did not advance. - Any last word? ▲ Recently, I had a few personal issues which made it difficult for me to play. I want to thank Reach for giving me a lot of support. Some of my fans might not know this, Reach was a pillar of support to me. I am very thankful to have him and hope he will help, not only myself, but the rest team so we (KT) can be even better. *Source http://sc.plu.cn/note/2011-04-22/27270.html* ** If someone can help me with 神马 and 虽然有点马后炮了，但我还是觉得我用雷车拼的话是这种兵力不可能输的，但无奈没有雷达了, I will correct it. *** Feel free to make any adjustment to it Thank you so much for the interview. | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On April 22 2011 06:28 CoffeeJelly wrote: - Explain about your match against Jaedong in the winners match. ▲ (T/N -神马 what is this? Flash said he didn't need this against JD) Against Jaedong, I have every confidence to win, because it was a vZ on Circuit Breaker. Jaedong was playing very good today, and I wasn't feeling particularly confident going into lategame. Even though I had one armor and one attack upgrade, I lost all my forces easily and it discouraged me greatly. After the match, I didn't even have the will to think about the next one. I started panicing. - What do you think you could've done better? (T/N - not the best translation here but its something along the line of "what were your regrets?") ▲ It's a bit late but if I had used 雷车, there was no way I could've lost but I didn't see it on the minimap. 虽然有点马后炮了，但我还是觉得我用雷车拼的话是这种兵力不可能输的，但无奈没有雷达了。 // Help me with this one. // 神马 ... uh... not sure 雷车 is vulture 虽然有点马后炮了，但我还是觉得我用雷车拼的话是这种兵力不可能输的，但无奈没有雷达了 Even though this is a bit irrelevant now, I think that if I had used vultures, I would have no chance of losing; but I was forced to not have radar (???????) ok I'm confused too about this last part lol | ||
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CoffeeJelly
Canada53 Posts
Edit: I added the vulture and it sort of make sense ... | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On April 22 2011 06:28 CoffeeJelly wrote: - The SPL 5R is about to start. ▲ I won't say anything here but strangely, the power level of my teammates has increased overwhelmingly. It's giving me a headache (Laugh) especially Hoejja and Barrack; you can expect those two to perform exceptionally if they can play as well as they did in practice. 1p and 2p giving Flash a headache in practice? --> Fantasy PL team updated. | ||
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