EPTWhy does everyone love hip hop/rap now? - Page 5
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Keldrath
United States449 Posts
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positron.
634 Posts
1) partying. 2) alcohol 3) sex 4) booty There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote: ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently: 1) partying. 2) alcohol 3) sex 4) booty There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it. let me sum up the content of some I heard recently: 1) strained family relationships 2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto 3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships 4) love 5) the future of society (sci-fi themes) maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump | ||
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
geuss i should do the Sum up all the metal songs I have heard lately: My girl left me I hate my life Scream Scream some more scream so that the music becomes distorted some shit about love more inaudible screaming | ||
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positron.
634 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: let me sum up the content of some I heard recently: 1) strained family relationships 2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto 3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships 4) love 5) the future of society (sci-fi themes) maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people. | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics. I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now. | ||
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555
56 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote: I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people. And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop? On December 10 2010 18:43 BasedSwag wrote: Mainstream metal and rap are just as bad as each other. Both have good lesser known artists though. Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics. I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now. MBDTF was one of the best hip-hop albums this year  He isn't overrated as a producer. I don't think he's a great rapper but his production is top notch. I'm trying to strike down the misconception that hip-hop is inherently shallow and that it's an invalid form of artistic expression. Sorry if I offended you, but your post had no context and I'm sure you can see how easily it can be taken the wrong way. I never said anything about myself or my intelligence or place in society. Why are you being so defensive and weird about it? | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
Hiphop/rap is probably the most well-liked because it is extremely easy for the ear to understand, and lyrics which directly relate to a fantasical life. That's why I hate it so frickin' bad. I find enjoyment in listening to 2pac, breaking benjamin AND parkway drive. Its really preference imo, and in a sense what you grew up listening to. | ||
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
Death Metal takes skill and making hip hop doesnt? that's just down right stupid. Screaming non sense is not music. | ||
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UrASofty
Canada772 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:43 BasedSwag wrote: Mainstream metal and rap are just as bad as each other. Both have good lesser known artists though. Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics. I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now. Although kanye is extremely overrated and his antics are quite annoying, his new album is amazing. | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: MBDTF was one of the best hip-hop albums this year He isn't overrated as a producer. I don't think he's a great rapper but his production is top notch. I liked the album and agree with you on that, but I think the concept for the album (especially after viewing the "Runaway" film) was extremely pretentious, and undeniably unlike what most would think about when they talk about mainstream rap/hip-hop. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
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positron.
634 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop? Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
I think it just has to do with what albums are being released. There haven't been many good metal albums (or rock for that matter) released lately IMO. I think Disturbed was the last one I actually liked and even so, I didn't think it was that great. Their new style isn't really my thing, but I know I'll like it eventually because all of their albums were like that for me. They had to grow on me. Now, hip hop, has had quite a lot of new artists come into the picture and a couple of new albums. The new Eminem album is actually pretty damn good. I'm not a huge fan of his, but the album he just came out with is excellent. Nicki Minaj ain't that bad either. I haven't heard her new album, but there are some good songs she's in. Kanye is also coming out with some good songs. Monster and Runaway being two of them. Like I said before, I think it has to do with more hip hop being released now than metal. Personally, I've been leaning towards more bass heavy music lately. I'm just not in the mood for any rock/metal. I'll throw in some Bullet for My Valentine or A Day to Remember here or there, but that's been quite rare for the past 2 months. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:51 bakedace wrote: Death Metal takes skill and making hip hop doesnt? that's just down right stupid. Screaming non sense is not music. This is an extremely unhealthy attitude to take toward any genre of music, whether it be metal, hip-hop, or anything else. You can't just dismiss things as "not music". It's not an argument, just a refusal to discuss it. | ||
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Mellotron
United States329 Posts
As far as musical skill goes, beatmaking and electronica are so easy to make its literally sickening. Yeah, maybe joe blow cant just sit down at a computer and make great electronica or beats, but any midlevel skilled musician can. The hardest skill in music is songwriting. It is the least in supply, and the most difficult skill to obtain. Many many musicians try their entire lives and still never gain even moderate skill in songwriting. Go read any songwriting forum on the internet and youll see. Most people are completely clueless as how to write well or improve, and instead spend most of their time obsessing over instrumental performance (guitar solos etc) or recording/equipment/producing. Thats because those are skills that are easily obtained through blind repetition, or mastery of electronic equipment. Songwriting is by far the most difficult of all, thats why there are so few strong writers, and so many strong performers and producers. Go down to guitar center on any friday and tell me what you see... dozens of great drummers and great guitar players and djs. And yet? Not any great strong songwriters. There are alot of people in this thread making claims about music that are merely publicly adopted notions that dont really mean anything, and arent necessarily true. The general public has no idea how little they truly understand music. They simply know what they like, and what they like is based on their ego and their emotional/identity/lifestyle desires. So, thats about it. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:55 positron. wrote: Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion. Doesn't the assumption follow that you chose to listen to that versus more insightful and artistic hip-hop? I'm not attacking you, but there are a lot of people that think ALL RAP is like you described and that's the IDEA I'm attacking and not you personally. | ||
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UrASofty
Canada772 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:55 positron. wrote: Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion. Your post was basically insinuating that hip hop sucks. DH merely called you out on it. | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
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