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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
June 30 2011 14:34 GMT
#941
The real DT doesn't have to claim though as he can instead check other linked suspicious people and if mafia happens to kill him, his flip will guarantee one or more scum lynches. Letting VisceraEyes to die instead of doing such a risky gambit makes more sense
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 14:34 GMT
#942
On June 30 2011 23:28 syllogism wrote:
Though early on Youngminii made a weird comment about our "only DT" dying. If there's no roleblocker, would that indicate there's only one dt

Ahh you've got a keen eye lol
I actually wanted to edit that to change it but I'm not allowed to and I didn't want to spam up unnecessary posts. By only DT I meant the only confirmed DT.

Anyway syllo I went through your recent posts and I'm pretty damn satisfied. I'll unvote you in a sec. On a related note, a while ago I was coming up with random theories and by the end of it I basically determined that you and chaos are opposite alignments. I'll go through my line of thinking soon (if I can retrace my train of thought) but I had come to the conclusion that one of you were scum and you seemed to be scummier so I pressed for you. It's also easier to gauge your reactions since I've actually seen you play before, I've never seen chaos play so yeah.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 14:42 GMT
#943
Bleh this'll be my last post until something interesting happens for a while, I'm posting too much crap.

I went through chaos13's posts and he's so god damn pro-town. Looks like my vote is staying on you buddy.
lalala
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 30 2011 14:44 GMT
#944
On June 30 2011 23:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 23:26 syllogism wrote:
Don't this big games usually have 2 DTs? Seems like an extremely risky bus

Not really. If you do it there are 2 outcomes. Your guy gets lynched because the real DT claimed and you now have the real dt wrapped up. Or the real dt keeps his mouth shut until he can bring a case. Either way if you had 2 guys leading the lynch you still come out 1 day ahead.

I'm just pointing out a scenario that is not outside of the realm of possibility.
If another DT claims before VE is resolved there is a chance he'll be lynched.


I don't think anyone is under the impression that VE is somehow cleared. I'm just fine with it being an excuse for letting him slide at the moment.

Worst case: he's scum, and we're hunting 4 scum instead of 5.

Best case: he's dt and either holds their roleblocker occupied or gets us an investigation or two.

If he brings us another guilty case (I'm going to pretty much ignore any innocent case until he's dead), then I'll be fine testing it too. But for now, the risk vs reward is in my opinion in the town's favour, so that's the direction I intend to take us.

Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#945
Is it possible that this is a no vigi setup?

Because I would have expected a hit on GMarshal a long time ago, but it all depends on what his role is/what information was shared.
1) He is mafia and a vig shoots him. This would be posted by a host
2) He is veteran and a vig shoots him. This may or may not be posted by a host

It's good to see you stepping out of the shadows Jackal. I was beginning to think you were scummy because you hadn't posted much. I agree with you on OpZ, and think he would be an excellent lurker hit if we have vigilantes.

On June 30 2011 22:36 Palmar wrote:
how about we lynch either mig or dropbear?


At this very moment I cannot recall any of Mig's posts, nor my opinion of his alignment. I am slightly suspicious of DropBear, but I have no real reasoning for it. I'll go back through these players posts today and see what I come up with, although I think there are better candidates for today's lynch.
Why these two players specifically?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#946
I agree with you Palmar. I just didn't want that possible scenario to be ignored.
Life can only kill you once.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 30 2011 15:04 GMT
#947
I think it is entirely likely that Viscera bussed Drazerk, because both of them were garnering heavy suspicion, and Drazerk was heading for a lynch anyway, so they would have nothing to lose by it. This theory is reinforced by the fact that Drazerk flipped goon. If Viscera is scum, he is most likely a GF or RB, and they decided to do that so they could save a power role for at least another day.

And just a heads up to everyone, I will be graduating today so I won't be on here very frequently (or at all) over the next 24 hours.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 30 2011 15:30 GMT
#948
Congrats Chaos.
I typically post more and more in depth on day 2 than day 1.
If I'm still alive on day 3 you won't be able to shut me up.
Life can only kill you once.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 15:32 GMT
#949
I'm still waiting for someone to shoot me.

Can we hurry up with that? Please?

Everyone keeps making these assumptions about everyone's alignment based on me being scum, and they are just wrong. Need to correct that ASAP.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 30 2011 15:34 GMT
#950
Why would anyone do that when we can just lynch you instead? Saves us a vigi shot, or two.
Enjoy your day.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 30 2011 15:36 GMT
#951
On June 30 2011 23:20 Jackal58 wrote:
Well that should teach me to forgo sleep. 10 pages of mostly useless shit.


The Lurker list:
hyaach
Mr Wiggles
Opz
Kenpachi
GGQ
aprudds
Eiii

Of those that made it 2 are players that have been subbed. aprudds is now Mataza. Welcome to the cluster fuck Mataza. And GGQ. GGQ's apparent lack of activity has disappointed me, however no matter his alignment he never posts a shitload anyways. At least not in the 5 or 6 games I've played with him. I'm thinking if a vig wishes to shoot into that list you avoid those 2 atm.

That leaves:
hyaach
Mr Wiggles
Opz
Kenpachi
Eiii

Who the fuck is hyaach? If he has indeed avoided a modkill I think he would make an excellent lurker vig shot.
Of the others between Mr.Wiggles, Opz, and Eii I'll bet one of them is scum. I'm leaning towards Opz.

I also think the odds are extremely high that VisceraEyes and the rest of the scum team bussed Drovzk (sp). There is already some evidence that TAA had already checked him (I don't know if the time line bears this out. If it's already been checked please spare me the effort of connecting the dots) The odds of both DTs checking the same player on the same day just seem rather low to me. If that is the case and you guys buy that he is DT then scum have managed to manipulate a medic protect while allowing him to claim role block ad nauseum. This part is important. If you are role blocked claim it immediately. If Viscera is scum then the scum team has pretty much handcuffed their RB ability.

GMarshal appears to be combining his last mayoral campaign with his endgame play in PTP. Both times he was scum. By all means if you have a gun shoot him.


Again, I had about 30 pages of thread to read last night, and I like to take notes and read back while I play mafia. Unfortunately I had to rush through about 10 pages to catch up before I went to sleep last night, so I'll be re-reading again tonight -_- I hope I get some credit for the fact that I decided to vote Drazerk while VE was leading the lynch and before VE claimed.

RE: VE bussing Drazerk- I find it unlikely to say the least. I personally have never seen a scum team incompetent enough to allow both major candidates for a lynch to be scum, especially on day fucking 1.

My personal suspicions- As I said, I've had to rush through the thread so I don't feel as confident as I should, but the player I'd most like to lynch (aside from the GMan, of course) is Varpulis. I also have my eye on Mig and chaos13. I have nothing against syllogism. I'm going out soon for most of the day, but I hope to do some analysis justifying this tonight.

My vote is on GMarshal, I'll take it off if/when he gets shot. On the very small chance that he isn't scum, we should look into youngminii, who has also been raising my eyebrows though in less of a heebly-jeebly inducing way.

If a hatter wants a target among the lurkers, I'd suggest Wiggles, who is playing very much to his scum standards; just very bleh and forgettable.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 30 2011 15:36 GMT
#952
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 15:37 GMT
#953
I approve. However I would have liked for that bullet to have hit me instead.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 15:38 GMT
#954
On July 01 2011 00:34 Sinani201 wrote:
Why would anyone do that when we can just lynch you instead? Saves us a vigi shot, or two.

Because you get a confirmed townie or dead scum out of the deal, its win win. You are being dense. Please don't be dense.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 15:40 GMT
#955
Good snipe but you REALLY should have shot GMarshal. I am disappoint.
lalala
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 30 2011 15:41 GMT
#956
On July 01 2011 00:40 youngminii wrote:
Good snipe but you REALLY should have shot GMarshal. I am disappoint.

Agreed.

Here in bold for the next vigi who shows up

Please goddamn shoot me. I need to confirm myself already
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 30 2011 15:41 GMT
#957
lol, that's convenient.

I wonder what propped that shot, youngminii and I pointing in his direction?

Go town, lol
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
June 30 2011 15:45 GMT
#958
On July 01 2011 00:41 Palmar wrote:
lol, that's convenient.

I wonder what propped that shot, youngminii and I pointing in his direction?

Go town, lol

Can you link me to where youngminii pointed to his direction?
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 30 2011 15:47 GMT
#959
syllo is right, I made a distinct effort to avoid talking about DropBear. Basically DropBear showed pretty huge scum behaviour, any town KP role worth his weight would have targeted him. This tells us our Vig is very competent ^_^
lalala
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
June 30 2011 15:49 GMT
#960
You were leaning towards him being scummy which you should get some credit, but it was buried, as far as I can see, in a huge list of suspects, which isn't for me quite enough to clear you
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