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The people I am most suspicious of right now:
youngminii - Started off Day 1 with random accusations less than an hour in, attempting to disrupt a pro-town atmosphere. He still hasn't convinced me he is town. I'd like to see explanations for posts like this one
On July 01 2011 01:23 youngminii wrote:
Right now I am absolutely fine with a lynch on the following:
syllogism
sinani206
Varpulis (pending check)
Vain
GMarshal - Started off Day 1 extremely pro-town, but has had some weird things going on at the end into the beginning of Day 2. This will easily be solved by a smart vigilante. We either have dead scum or confirmed vet
syllogism - Giving me bad vibes, and there was something specific that I or someone else had earlier (if I didn't mention it, somebody else did and I made a mental note of it and forgot to actually record it). I'll see if I can find it tomorrow
OpZ - For a veteran player he's not doing too well. Ended up on the lurker list and hasn't been pro-town by any stretch of the imagination. He would be an excellent lurker hit today imo.
People I think are town
sinani206 - I was rather suspicious of his posts to begin with, so I checked over them. I think it is far more likely that he is town than scum, he has had some that can be construed as anti-town, but I do not believe that was their intention.
Palmar - Sure, there are some people who are suspicious of him, but all I can see is that it revolves around him being too pro-town. He has shown that he is charismatic and can be a good leader, and he has had many opportunities to use this to completely derail discussion, but has instead used it to focus discussion when it begins to get scattered or off-topic.
Uncertain
VisceraEyes - Could be DT, could be a major bus. However, if he returns Varpulis result as town and viscera is scum, he'll easily be counterclaimed. Varp, if he claims you are vanilla town and you are a blue role, wait until the last six hours to refute his claim.
Lanaia - I had an early town read on (him/her?) because everything posted was consistently solid and pro-town. However, since then I haven't seen much content, and I am growing more suspicious.
Cthsazsa - Similar case to Lanaia. I already made an admittedly weak case, and he shot it down with no problem. It was such a good case that I was convinced he was town. However, a lack of content since then has disturbed me.
Vain - I have seen nothing really pro-town, so I'll be keeping a close eye on him. He's leaning more towards scummy than uncertain.
Anyone else I have no real read on at the moment. The uncertain players I mentioned are simply the ones I have no read on that stand out to me.
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Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.
So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.
I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.
PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum.
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I'm pretty sure Cthsazsa is town btw.
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On July 01 2011 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.
So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.
I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.
PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum.
So let's see.
A mafioso posing as a DT would have access to alignment, but not role. How convenient. Here is what I suggest. In the last 6 hours of day, you reveal the role Varp returned. He then confirms it or refutes it. If he refutes it, we lynch you because you're scum. If he confirms it, you either had a lucky guess or you're actually a DT. Does this work for everyone?
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Just a reminder: KP of Mafia Team is calculated at every beginning of the day, that means today, despite DropBear dying they have total of 3KP to use, the next day though their KP will be reduced to total of 2KP.
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That doesn't make sense to me. Why not update it in real time?
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On July 01 2011 01:58 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.
So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.
I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.
PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum. So let's see. A mafioso posing as a DT would have access to alignment, but not role. How convenient. Here is what I suggest. In the last 6 hours of day, you reveal the role Varp returned. He then confirms it or refutes it. If he refutes it, we lynch you because you're scum. If he confirms it, you either had a lucky guess or you're actually a DT. Does this work for everyone?
That's actually not a bad idea. But what if they're both scum?
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My only problem with that is that I'm marked for death anyway, on d3 or 4, so my reports can be either confirmed or ignored. Outting Varpulis' role will give Mafia more information than they already have...making their snipes more accurate. Luckily they haven't had the aim they had in XLII, and I'm not really willing to give them a sniper scope.
If Chaos' plan is acceptable to the rest of town, I'll submit to it, but only if it's agreed upon by the town.
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On July 01 2011 02:05 Vain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 01:58 chaos13 wrote:On July 01 2011 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.
So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.
I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.
PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum. So let's see. A mafioso posing as a DT would have access to alignment, but not role. How convenient. Here is what I suggest. In the last 6 hours of day, you reveal the role Varp returned. He then confirms it or refutes it. If he refutes it, we lynch you because you're scum. If he confirms it, you either had a lucky guess or you're actually a DT. Does this work for everyone? That's actually not a bad idea. But what if they're both scum?
If they're both scum then we still have at least one real DT out there, and I suggest they check either Viscera or Varp asap. If we hear from a DT that those two are lying scumfaces, we lynch them both. If we hear nothing, they're clear.
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On July 01 2011 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.
So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.
I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.
PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum.
Please don't investigate people on the lurker list, those are better investigated with bullets.
I like vain, chaos13, youngminii, syllo for checks.
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There's no way this setup has 3 DTs, so if there's another DT out there, VisceraEyes is scum and a check would be wasted on him. I still don't think it makes any sense whatsoever for VisceraEyes to claim DT and bus Drazerk in that situation if they can't tell how many DTs the setup has.
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On July 01 2011 02:05 syllogism wrote:
That doesn't make sense to me. Why not update it in real time?
This.
On July 01 2011 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
My only problem with that is that I'm marked for death anyway, on d3 or 4, so my reports can be either confirmed or ignored. Outting Varpulis' role will give Mafia more information than they already have...making their snipes more accurate. Luckily they haven't had the aim they had in XLII, and I'm not really willing to give them a sniper scope.
If Chaos' plan is acceptable to the rest of town, I'll submit to it, but only if it's agreed upon by the town.
My plan is much more efficient now that a roleblocker is dead. It depends on the setup, but if they even have a roleblocker left, there is just one of them. This means that even if varp is blue and you have to out him, they have to choose between him and a DT to block.
Medics, be on your game. Be ready to protect varp/viscera right as day 3 begins. Let's hope you're in the right time zone to do so
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On July 01 2011 02:05 syllogism wrote:
That doesn't make sense to me. Why not update it in real time?
I am just a co-host,leave me alone!
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Well you better ask RoL how it works before someone gets flipped. If town can lose KP in real time, so should mafia.
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On July 01 2011 02:10 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 02:05 syllogism wrote:
That doesn't make sense to me. Why not update it in real time? This. Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
My only problem with that is that I'm marked for death anyway, on d3 or 4, so my reports can be either confirmed or ignored. Outting Varpulis' role will give Mafia more information than they already have...making their snipes more accurate. Luckily they haven't had the aim they had in XLII, and I'm not really willing to give them a sniper scope.
If Chaos' plan is acceptable to the rest of town, I'll submit to it, but only if it's agreed upon by the town. My plan is much more efficient now that a roleblocker is dead. It depends on the setup, but if they even have a roleblocker left, there is just one of them. This means that even if varp is blue and you have to out him, they have to choose between him and a DT to block. Medics, be on your game. Be ready to protect varp/viscera right as day 3 begins. Let's hope you're in the right time zone to do so
Yo, lets discuss this plan at the last 6 hours of the day. we still have lynch targets to discuss and the mafia still has killing power to fuck us over with.
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On July 01 2011 02:14 syllogism wrote:
Well you better ask RoL how it works before someone gets flipped. If town can lose KP in real time, so should mafia.
He asked me, I told him. If I didn't set it like this then every day the mafia would just blow all their kills in the first 3 minutes. Each day I have decided to set the KP based on the mafia numbers and not real time update their actual KP.
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But every power role has to take the same risk and I would say more often than not it would be a risk worth taking as mafia, but I suppose changing the rules midgame is bad
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You have a point, but I decided this before the game started for the aforementioned reasons and considered it in balance. In the next one I might update it. I also saved the 50 page "all" if anyone would like me to host it, provide me with an upload site and I will add it to the #3 OP post.
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Let me preface this post by saying Kurumi is my favourite for the post with the Hello Kitty picture. <3
On July 01 2011 01:19 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 00:37 GMarshal wrote:
I approve. However I would have liked for that bullet to have hit me instead. Why, because you're just a goon? Even if you are a veteran and taking a hit would confirm you, it's better to kill a mafia than confirm a townie. You're not making any sense to me GM. You're playing a more pro-town game than almost anyone, and yet every now and then you post something like this that just doesn't make sense. However, I doubt a mafia would call a vigi shot to them.
I agree with chaos13 here. GM's play is making my head spin because of this play of his. I don't think he should have said anything and should have waited until a vig hit, and then possibly said something? I don't know, but I know I don't like what he's done here. And I don't like how he's constantly talking about it. It feels really damn wifom-y to me.
I'm not going to give a list of people I think should be vigged or protected. Those who should be protected are probably obvious.
I have this crazy sensation that sinasi206 or however you spell it is scum. I will have to reread him in isolation though.
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Supersoft has just subbed in for Sinani206
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