EPTI also wanted to point out that despite YM making TWO LISTS, he left out GM from both despite GM acting controversial and being the center of Town Discussion.
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
I also wanted to point out that despite YM making TWO LISTS, he left out GM from both despite GM acting controversial and being the center of Town Discussion. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
His response to my case, especially #7 was quite weak as well, considering he freely admitted to tunneling townies in XLII and a lot of veterans also thought VE was acting out of character. Soon after the case he posted that "he was pretty damn satisfied" with my recent posts, but then 10 minutes later decided keeping his vote on me was worth it after all based on chaos13 looking "god damn pro-town" | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:01 Lanaia wrote: It feels weird to have FoS' this early in the game. Is it really that possible to get a read on anyone at this stage in the game? I mean, maybe that's how you roll, even with people whose metas and playstyles you don't know. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. It just seems strange that anyone can have a read they feel solid enough to place a FoS on at this stage in the game. On June 28 2011 13:07 Lanaia wrote: I'm actually legitimately confused when it comes to strategies involving the lurker list. Logically, I cannot fathom how one would be possible without outing everything we want to have kept hidden. Personally, I think it isn't a good idea and I will probably not take part in that, given it occurs. I am not good at planning and having a group planned with me. (Especially not with people I have never played with before) I find what RoL just posted very interesting. I am curious to see how this will work. On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote: All right, so sorry I've been away since last night. Today has been busier than expected. The LSB kill doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I suppose yes, he was kind of obviously town. <rest of post snipped> On June 29 2011 05:02 Lanaia wrote: I just meant that from what I've seen of his play, I feel he is town. I tend to say things in the definite and not in the possible. I'm sorry. On June 29 2011 13:28 Lanaia wrote: Guys I really suck at posting in an aesthetically pleasing manner. I am very sorry for that. On June 30 2011 15:05 Lanaia wrote: I'm really sorry for my lack of activity in the past few hours. I promise you I will post in the morning. I've got the worst headache and my ears are all allergylike. I'm not sure about forum games, but is scum likely to bus? He's explaining away things that nobody is asking him about (activity) and apologizing for mistakes with almost every other post. He's buddying up with pro-town players (wiggles, Palmar) and agreeing with them to try to appear more town himself. I'm not confident that he's scum, but i'm quite suspicious at this point. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On July 01 2011 05:37 Varpulis wrote: I've got some issues with Lanaia's posting. It's quite apologetic, and he is constantly making excuses in case somebody has a problem with his posts. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:01 Lanaia wrote: It feels weird to have FoS' this early in the game. Is it really that possible to get a read on anyone at this stage in the game? I mean, maybe that's how you roll, even with people whose metas and playstyles you don't know. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. It just seems strange that anyone can have a read they feel solid enough to place a FoS on at this stage in the game. On June 28 2011 13:07 Lanaia wrote: I'm actually legitimately confused when it comes to strategies involving the lurker list. Logically, I cannot fathom how one would be possible without outing everything we want to have kept hidden. Personally, I think it isn't a good idea and I will probably not take part in that, given it occurs. I am not good at planning and having a group planned with me. (Especially not with people I have never played with before) I find what RoL just posted very interesting. I am curious to see how this will work. On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote: All right, so sorry I've been away since last night. Today has been busier than expected. The LSB kill doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I suppose yes, he was kind of obviously town. <rest of post snipped> On June 29 2011 05:02 Lanaia wrote: I just meant that from what I've seen of his play, I feel he is town. I tend to say things in the definite and not in the possible. I'm sorry. On June 29 2011 13:28 Lanaia wrote: Guys I really suck at posting in an aesthetically pleasing manner. I am very sorry for that. On June 30 2011 15:05 Lanaia wrote: I'm really sorry for my lack of activity in the past few hours. I promise you I will post in the morning. I've got the worst headache and my ears are all allergylike. I'm not sure about forum games, but is scum likely to bus? He's explaining away things that nobody is asking him about (activity) and apologizing for mistakes with almost every other post. He's buddying up with pro-town players (wiggles, Palmar) and agreeing with them to try to appear more town himself. I'm not confident that he's scum, but i'm quite suspicious at this point. He is a she and I still think she made a scum slip regarding kenpachi on day 1. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 01 2011 05:45 Jackal58 wrote: He is a she and I still think she made a scum slip regarding kenpachi on day 1. Duly noted. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On July 01 2011 05:48 syllogism wrote: As for GM, I don't see how vigi hitting him is useful. The vigi would have to roleclaim and we've no way of knowing if the vigi is town without wasting a DT check on him. Now, this would net us two scum, but the odds them doing this gambit are low. However the mere possibility means GM can't be confirmed in this manner. Even assuming we believe the vigi and thus confirm both, one or both of them will be likely mafia targets. If the vigi is a compulsory vigi, this doesn't seem like a good trade. It seems to me GM has to be lynched sooner or later. Cause we always kill GM at some point anyway. Even if a vigi claims shooting him, and he claims shot, then he still dies before we're in lylo. We can't have such a controversial player with such important slips and fuck-ups in lylo, when we need as much clean, simple information as we can possibly get. By the way, just so everyone is aware. DropBear writes to point some of his fingers towards fellow scum when he's doing his "point at everyone" thing to distract town. But I still need more evidence before I'm willing to push a lynch on someone like Eiii. This is the time to bring up ideas. I'm going to have a look at chaos13. Anyone who says I'm posting well is probably scum. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On July 01 2011 05:48 syllogism wrote: As for GM, I don't see how vigi hitting him is useful. The vigi would have to roleclaim and we've no way of knowing if the vigi is town without wasting a DT check on him. Now, this would net us two scum, but the odds them doing this gambit are low. However the mere possibility means GM can't be confirmed in this manner. Even assuming we believe the vigi and thus confirm both, one or both of them will be likely mafia targets. If the vigi is a compulsory vigi, this doesn't seem like a good trade. It seems to me GM has to be lynched sooner or later. Actually, yeah, I think you might be right. For some reason, I was working under the assumption that hits would show up in posts similar to how the kills have been. That might be wrong though, as failed hits normally aren't reported, and I just realized that. -_- | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:06 Palmar wrote: Cause we always kill GM at some point anyway. Even if a vigi claims shooting him, and he claims shot, then he still dies before we're in lylo. We can't have such a controversial player with such important slips and fuck-ups in lylo, when we need as much clean, simple information as we can possibly get. By the way, just so everyone is aware. DropBear writes to point some of his fingers towards fellow scum when he's doing his "point at everyone" thing to distract town. But I still need more evidence before I'm willing to push a lynch on someone like Eiii. This is the time to bring up ideas. I'm going to have a look at chaos13. Anyone who says I'm posting well is probably scum. You´re posting like shit  I hope you like it. Btw, I´ve stopped rereading the whole thread, it´s a freaking nightmare. I will selectively reread posts of people I get suspicious of. Part of this selective rereading has been about dropbear. Now I will pull out meta shit, so feel free to criticize me for that. On June 29 2011 23:08 DropBear wrote: So I guess in summary of all that SCUM TEAM OF SCUMDOM sinani206 GMarshal Eiii I was worried about Mig before and I'd very much like to see him come forward as well. Step up dude! This pretty much sums up most of the things Dropbear brought for. Mig was the first target he was gunning for, so it´s ok to drop him out of the potential wifom extraction process. Now GMarshal is who everyone is gunning for at this point. I don´t think GM can come out quite alive out of this without people being left unsatisfied here. As far as I´m concerned there is no reason to put Sinani in the top 3 of a suspect list. Actually Dropbears reasons are mostly really shitty for that. Checking 206 might actually return red. Eiii has come in quite late into DB´s focus. Also the Eiii case has a bit more substance in my eyes, as to the point of it being justified. I wouldn´t dare to predict Eiii´s flip. Dropbear did bus the hell out of his teammates in PTP so they look innocent after his flip. Since he didn´t really change up much, I am inclined to think he did it again, at least partially. It´s not like he talked about many people really, so it can be over quite quickly. Tl;dr Consider using a check on Sinani206. Eiii is a too solid a case from Dropbear to be an outright bus by him, but it´s still possible. Save Eiii for last of these 3 people. People are gunning for GM anyway, so there is nothing to read into that. Mig was a weak case and DB´s first, and also on day 1 to boot, so it probably is just a day1 bandwagon attempt to get away from other suspects. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:33 Mataza wrote: You´re posting like shit I hope you like it. Btw, I´ve stopped rereading the whole thread, it´s a freaking nightmare. I will selectively reread posts of people I get suspicious of. Part of this selective rereading has been about dropbear. Now I will pull out meta shit, so feel free to criticize me for that. This pretty much sums up most of the things Dropbear brought for. Mig was the first target he was gunning for, so it´s ok to drop him out of the potential wifom extraction process. Now GMarshal is who everyone is gunning for at this point. I don´t think GM can come out quite alive out of this without people being left unsatisfied here. As far as I´m concerned there is no reason to put Sinani in the top 3 of a suspect list. Actually Dropbears reasons are mostly really shitty for that. Checking 206 might actually return red. Eiii has come in quite late into DB´s focus. Also the Eiii case has a bit more substance in my eyes, as to the point of it being justified. I wouldn´t dare to predict Eiii´s flip. Dropbear did bus the hell out of his teammates in PTP so they look innocent after his flip. Since he didn´t really change up much, I am inclined to think he did it again, at least partially. It´s not like he talked about many people really, so it can be over quite quickly. Tl;dr Consider using a check on Sinani206. Eiii is a too solid a case from Dropbear to be an outright bus by him, but it´s still possible. Save Eiii for last of these 3 people. People are gunning for GM anyway, so there is nothing to read into that. Mig was a weak case and DB´s first, and also on day 1 to boot, so it probably is just a day1 bandwagon attempt to get away from other suspects. ahm who did you replace? I just made a list of players to get in the game and now I am confused. I replaced Sinani206 and a check on me is not obviously needed. Only scum voted me on day1... Wow and this sinani201 guy is also extremely confusing, too :D Lanaia is quite cute :D If she were a dude I'd vote for her immediately with all the excuses all the time in every single post. haha, also after analyzing the first vote-counts I thought sandroba was scum - turned out he's already dead and extremely green. Now back to business. Besides: Thank you for adding a ton of posts since I joined - Now the thread has more than 50 pages and I can't "strg f" through it anymore :-[ | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town, 2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him, 3) DT verifying his claim. It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it. I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
Sinani206/supersoft - After GM I feel the case against 206 is the strongest. I listed a bunch of reasons already for why he is scummy yesterday. Adding on to those is the fact that when pressured on why he hadn't been contributing he gave excuses like "I don't see anything really scummy to do an analysis on" or "I think GM is scummy but I can't give you any reasons why". But after he was called out on what poor reasons those were he actually created a very strong analysis of 201. This was very suspicious for 2 reasons, A) obviously sinani had the capability to do good analysis and contribute to the town the entire game, yet he chose not to actually do any of it and contribute to the town until he was under pressure and B) he literally did the EXACT same thing in XXXIX as mafia. He was useless the entire game and then right before he was lynched he wrote up a very good analysis bussing one of his teammates in an attempt to save himself. If you look through 206's posts you will see he didn't want to contribute and was looking for excuses not to until he was forced to actually try by the pressure the town was putting on him. The only thing I am not sure of regarding him is the fact that draz/dropbear both targeted him. But as people have said dropbear has bussed many of his teammates in the past so I am going to focus more on what I feel is 206's scummy behavior. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I do not agree that GM is scum. I think he's too set on catching a bullet. I mean, he COULD be like, GF that's painted up to LOOK like a Vet, but I seriously doubt he'd gamble his life against 1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town, 2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him, 3) DT verifying his claim. It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it. I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that. I think it's pretty stupid to guarantee GM can't be scum when literally in 2 of his last 3 games played he martyred himself and asked to be killed as mafia to try and buy town cred. Unless you know something we don't..... And explain his motivations for why he is acting the way he is? You can't possibly say what GM is doing is good for the town right? I have a hard time believing GM would straight up refuse to contribute as a townie. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I do not agree that GM is scum. I think he's too set on catching a bullet. I mean, he COULD be like, GF that's painted up to LOOK like a Vet, but I seriously doubt he'd gamble his life against 1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town, 2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him, 3) DT verifying his claim. It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it. I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that. Unless this is exactly the reaction he's hoping for. I want him dead. I refer to my earlier analysis. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I do not agree that GM is scum. I think he's too set on catching a bullet. I mean, he COULD be like, GF that's painted up to LOOK like a Vet, but I seriously doubt he'd gamble his life against 1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town, 2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him, 3) DT verifying his claim. It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it. I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that. That is EXACTLY the kind of reacton GM wants. What the hell kind of vigi would shoot someone who claims vet? Their bullets are better used somewhere else. What the hell kind of vigi would shoot someone that's absolutely BEGGING to get shot? Just about no one. GM knows this. I think that's exactly the kind risky play GM would be willing to make. Don't waste a check on GM. There's plenty others to check. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
##vote GMarshal why? I agree with what people are saying right now. That is all. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:46 supersoft wrote: Lanaia is quite cute :D If she were a dude I'd vote for her immediately with all the excuses all the time in every single post. wtf is this? Weakest fucking excuse ever. Ignore gender. Lanaia is a player in this game. She isn't cute for all of her excuses, she's scum trying to get on the good side of the town and stay under the radar. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On July 01 2011 07:46 Varpulis wrote: wtf is this? Weakest fucking excuse ever. Ignore gender. Lanaia is a player in this game. She isn't cute for all of her excuses, she's scum trying to get on the good side of the town and stay under the radar. haha don't be so rude. I am no sexist or anything, but it's a fact that women and men are different in their behavior. A man that excuses all the time and a woman that does the same, have to be interprated differently. Ahm, @ the accuses against my person, I really have to read the posts of the former owner of my charackter to properly defend this. I also don't know why he wanted to be replaced... | ||
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