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hahahaha
Anyway, town seems to have lost focus between the GM ordeal and everything else. I think all that needs to be said is that he's used the pressure as an excuse to completely stop contributing analysis or anything at all apart from 'shoot me', which is extremely scummy in my eyes. We can lynch him today, but I'd rather just pretend that every non-useful post of his in the thread doesn't exist so we can focus on more interesting targets.
I'm still curious to see what other people have to say about chaos/hiro. I don't think the case against 206 is too strong, he just feels like bad town to me.
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On July 01 2011 08:16 Eiii wrote:
hahahaha
Anyway, town seems to have lost focus between the GM ordeal and everything else. I think all that needs to be said is that he's used the pressure as an excuse to completely stop contributing analysis or anything at all apart from 'shoot me', which is extremely scummy in my eyes. We can lynch him today, but I'd rather just pretend that every non-useful post of his in the thread doesn't exist so we can focus on more interesting targets.
I'm still curious to see what other people have to say about chaos/hiro. I don't think the case against 206 is too strong, he just feels like bad town to me.
Well, like I said, Hiro looks a lot like scum to me, but it also looks like he's not even here either. I'm gonna have to go back and look at chaos' posts.
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On July 01 2011 08:16 Eiii wrote:
hahahaha
Anyway, town seems to have lost focus between the GM ordeal and everything else. I think all that needs to be said is that he's used the pressure as an excuse to completely stop contributing analysis or anything at all apart from 'shoot me', which is extremely scummy in my eyes. We can lynch him today, but I'd rather just pretend that every non-useful post of his in the thread doesn't exist so we can focus on more interesting targets.
I'm still curious to see what other people have to say about chaos/hiro. I don't think the case against 206 is too strong, he just feels like bad town to me.
I'll reorganize town tomorrow, but for now I like a bit of chaos. I want people thinking and going off on their own hunting scum
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I will NOT advocate a GM lynch. I know you guys think he's scum, and I can see all the reasons for it...but I just don't think he'd be going to all the trouble if he were scum. The circumstances behind him pulling SIMILAR moves in previous games were completely different. I honestly think that in spite of how silly his methods sound, he's got town's best interest at heart. Anyone who argues otherwise simply has a different opinion on what's the most important for town.
In the meantime, I'm going to stick my vote on Kenpachi. He's A) on the lurker list. B) NOT contributing (see A), and C) coming in randomly with classics such as:
On July 01 2011 07:29 Kenpachi wrote:
Im going to hop the bandwagon if you dont mind.
##vote GMarshal
why? I agree with what people are saying right now.
That is all.
I agree with what people are saying right now.
Interestingly enough, people are saying ALL KINDS of things. Which things do you agree with? Which things do you NOT agree with? What are your thoughts on 206/supersoft? Why so lurky bro? Come play with us!
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On July 01 2011 05:37 Varpulis wrote:I've got some issues with Lanaia's posting. It's quite apologetic, and he is constantly making excuses in case somebody has a problem with his posts. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:01 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:24 chaos13 wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Does that really warrant an FoS? Are you willing to vote to back that up right now? Things like this should be kept in mind and used as evidence later on in the day phase when you actually have enough information and evidence to confidently label someone as scum. What it seems like here is that you're pushing a scum agenda trying to create an anti-town atmosphere of paranoia and weakly based suspicion. It feels weird to have FoS' this early in the game. Is it really that possible to get a read on anyone at this stage in the game? I mean, maybe that's how you roll, even with people whose metas and playstyles you don't know. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. It just seems strange that anyone can have a read they feel solid enough to place a FoS on at this stage in the game. On June 28 2011 13:07 Lanaia wrote:
I'm actually legitimately confused when it comes to strategies involving the lurker list. Logically, I cannot fathom how one would be possible without outing everything we want to have kept hidden. Personally, I think it isn't a good idea and I will probably not take part in that, given it occurs. I am not good at planning and having a group planned with me. (Especially not with people I have never played with before)
I find what RoL just posted very interesting. I am curious to see how this will work. On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote:
All right, so sorry I've been away since last night. Today has been busier than expected.
The LSB kill doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I suppose yes, he was kind of obviously town.
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On June 29 2011 05:02 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 05:01 Jackal58 wrote:On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote:On June 29 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home.
BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie. What the hell Kenpachi? Why... WHY did you say that? I feel this probably wasn't in your best interests, sorry bud. However, you're actually town, so... And posts like these make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Scum slip? I just meant that from what I've seen of his play, I feel he is town. I tend to say things in the definite and not in the possible. I'm sorry. On June 29 2011 13:28 Lanaia wrote:
Guys I really suck at posting in an aesthetically pleasing manner. I am very sorry for that. On June 30 2011 15:05 Lanaia wrote:
I'm really sorry for my lack of activity in the past few hours.
I promise you I will post in the morning. I've got the worst headache and my ears are all allergylike.
I'm not sure about forum games, but is scum likely to bus? He's explaining away things that nobody is asking him about (activity) and apologizing for mistakes with almost every other post. He's buddying up with pro-town players (wiggles, Palmar) and agreeing with them to try to appear more town himself. I'm not confident that he's scum, but i'm quite suspicious at this point.
I have a tendency to overapologize in real life as well.
Supersoft calling me cute (which I had managed to miss until I saw it quoted) feels weird to me. I'd like to be treated like anyone else.
Right now, it feels like maybe half the game is talking at a decent pace. Has RoL said what'll happen about Torqez?
Right now I'm rereading the thread. The most enthusiastic person is . In my experience, the most enthusiastic people tend to be scum. However, these people are still capable of lurking.
Also Torqez is/was probably scum.
It wasn't a scumslip when I said kenpachi was town. He just didn't seem scum!
Okay, GM is the most overly enthusiastic/excitable person in this thread. I am going to vote him because he is assbackwards and confusing the hell out of me. I don't see the town motivation.
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On July 01 2011 08:49 VisceraEyes wrote:I will NOT advocate a GM lynch. I know you guys think he's scum, and I can see all the reasons for it...but I just don't think he'd be going to all the trouble if he were scum. The circumstances behind him pulling SIMILAR moves in previous games were completely different. I honestly think that in spite of how silly his methods sound, he's got town's best interest at heart. Anyone who argues otherwise simply has a different opinion on what's the most important for town. In the meantime, I'm going to stick my vote on Kenpachi. He's A) on the lurker list. B) NOT contributing (see A), and C) coming in randomly with classics such as: Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 07:29 Kenpachi wrote:
Im going to hop the bandwagon if you dont mind.
##vote GMarshal
why? I agree with what people are saying right now.
That is all. I agree with what people are saying right now. Interestingly enough, people are saying ALL KINDS of things. Which things do you agree with? Which things do you NOT agree with? What are your thoughts on 206/supersoft? Why so lurky bro? Come play with us!
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Do you know what I find interesting?
In XLII, my last game, all scummy people went for "I am Vigilante, don´t lynch me"
I know for a fact that GM at least read some parts of that game.
In other words, claiming vigilante is something scum tend to do right now.
So with that in mind, what else can you claim as scum?
Medic would be obviously stupid.
Hatter is basically the same as a vigilante, except that people tend to just kill Hatters anyway.
Third detective is also not a particularly intelligent claim. Plus it has other issues, so let´s not dwell upon this.
What´s left is the Veteran role.
Guess what a certain someone claimed?
This strongly reminds me of the game where vigilantes just kept popping up(exaggeration).
If I had to make a ranking for roles scum would like to claim, it would look like this:
+ Show Spoiler +- 1. Vigilante
- 2. Veteran
- 3. Detective
- 4. Townie
- 5. Medic
- 6. Mad Hatter
So I beg you, if you are a oneshot vigilante, and you think GM is town, shoot the fuck at GM.
His roleclaim is worth shit in my eyes and he has done ridiculous claims in the past.
In PTP his lategame plan was to claim that Millers and Godfathers are in the game, which would make the list checks we had worthless(hint: There weren´t any and the checks weren´t worthless).
Then he tried to trick town into thinking the detective was a serial killer...
My point here is:
GM is not a bad player. And right now, we can verify if he is town and we should freaking do it. Shoot him.
And claim during the 6 hour pre-lynch period to avoid him falling to the last scumkill.
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On July 01 2011 09:02 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 08:49 VisceraEyes wrote:I will NOT advocate a GM lynch. I know you guys think he's scum, and I can see all the reasons for it...but I just don't think he'd be going to all the trouble if he were scum. The circumstances behind him pulling SIMILAR moves in previous games were completely different. I honestly think that in spite of how silly his methods sound, he's got town's best interest at heart. Anyone who argues otherwise simply has a different opinion on what's the most important for town. In the meantime, I'm going to stick my vote on Kenpachi. He's A) on the lurker list. B) NOT contributing (see A), and C) coming in randomly with classics such as: On July 01 2011 07:29 Kenpachi wrote:
Im going to hop the bandwagon if you dont mind.
##vote GMarshal
why? I agree with what people are saying right now.
That is all. I agree with what people are saying right now. Interestingly enough, people are saying ALL KINDS of things. Which things do you agree with? Which things do you NOT agree with? What are your thoughts on 206/supersoft? Why so lurky bro? Come play with us! hahahaha
Kenpachi please contribute or don't bother posting one liners. "hahahaha" is never going to help us. Please stop lurking. It's kind of irritating. I mean, I know I'm not doing that well at being super-active, but I'm trying. This, what you're doing, isn't even trying.
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ergehghdsfgasgowtrp
the fuck happened
you all devolved into a pack of ravenous wolves or something
i don't even
why are you possibly getting rid of our vet when we can have someone shoot him?
on that note, why HASN'T anyone shot him yet
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that's the thing, even if he does get shot the only word we have to go on is GM's, unless we want a vig to claim (which I assume we don't).
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On July 01 2011 09:31 Eiii wrote:
that's the thing, even if he does get shot the only word we have to go on is GM's, unless we want a vig to claim (which I assume we don't).
we lose nothing if a one shot vig claims
if gm really is mafia then his only option would be a scummate claiming which is far too risky and well worth it for us
if he doesn't get shot by the end of the day we'll lynch him
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On July 01 2011 09:31 Eiii wrote:
that's the thing, even if he does get shot the only word we have to go on is GM's, unless we want a vig to claim (which I assume we don't).
Mhmm, a lot of GM's credibility seems to be shot in the eyes of a lot of people it seems. So, pretty much the only way those people will trust him is if the vig claims as well. Also, by this point, mafia probably has an RB or something on GM if he is a vet.
GM, can you just contribute like you normally would, so we can judge you from that? I don't care if you aren't shot and confirmed if you start contributing more. If you do that, I'll be able to tell better from your posts what your alignment is, and it's more helpful if something bad happens to have more info in thread than not if you are town.
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The town wants you!
youngminii got this completely right.
There is a very strong case against GMarshal on the table.
He has claimed a role that makes it incredibly easy to confirm him. Sure the mafia will off him, but it will throw light on the situation.
He has yet to be shot. I am pleading to you guys, you one shot vigilantes. Please, please shoot GMarshal and then claim it in the last 6 hours of the day.
It would be detrimental to town if you force us to lynch him. GMarshal must be shot to produce a better atmosphere to work in. Your services are required. The Brother Leader and Guide of the Town needs your help. This is only in the name of justice and for the good of our people.
Show that you are a loyal townie, shoot GMarshal.
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On July 01 2011 09:42 Palmar wrote:The town wants you! youngminii got this completely right. There is a very strong case against GMarshal on the table. He has claimed a role that makes it incredibly easy to confirm him. Sure the mafia will off him, but it will throw light on the situation. He has yet to be shot. I am pleading to you guys, you one shot vigilantes. Please, please shoot GMarshal and then claim it in the last 6 hours of the day. It would be detrimental to town if you force us to lynch him. GMarshal must be shot to produce a better atmosphere to work in. Your services are required. The Brother Leader and Guide of the Town needs your help. This is only in the name of justice and for the good of our people. Show that you are a loyal townie, shoot GMarshal.
Actually, you can claim the shot as soon as GMarshal says he's been shot, as by that point you're just normal vanilla town.
Now get hunting, bring me some GMarshal steak.
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if we're really clever, our medic will save GMarshal, so he won't even lose a hitpoint in this process...
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On July 01 2011 10:00 supersoft wrote:
if we're really clever, our medic will save GMarshal, so he won't even lose a hitpoint in this process...
I'm giving you 5 minutes to figure out why that plan is bad.
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oh damn I see :D he won't die if he's red
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That will protect him if he's scum.
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