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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 11 2009 07:24 GMT
#921
On July 11 2009 15:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Foolishness, Pyrr, Heres hoping you two can save the sinking ship


you made a funny
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 11 2009 07:27 GMT
#922
On July 11 2009 16:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Pyrr, Do you ever read my analysis in games? I LINK EVERYONE TO EVERYTHING, and work from day to day of who links more and more and eliminate the rest. It sets marks in threads of my own train of thought to go back to and reflect on.

As for so no fek giving himself away, go re-read his posts.

I mean I do that too with suspects. I looked over the notes about Kuja i had saved and that's how I found him.

Here's a note I have saved from L, for instance:
+ Show Spoiler +


"Lets examine the general course of conversation this game has taken.

We started talking in general terms about weather. We then slid into a chat about what type of mafia one would send into the election. The answer was simple: the godfather. Elections went on, some odd voting happened, then we nearly completely dropped the topic.

Why is this important? Because BC is acting incoherently in his role. BC will criticize ydg for 'flip flopping', but flip flops himself, posting:
On July 05 2009 14:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ydg
Ecomania
Elemenope
Kuja
Scamp

If elected, i will be random # generating from this list.

Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game)

Elemenope seems shifty to me based on a question he asked previously in the thread,
ecomania, kuja and scamp due to general inactivity


then essentially going "oh wait nevermind, i'm going to kill a power player instead" 40 minutes later. Regardless of the wisdom of the plan, BC can't be pointing out other people for changing their minds when he's been the biggest flip flopper in the game when it comes down to concrete life or death decisions. More importantly, check that list: Who's number 1 there? The person BC is trying to get the town to bandwagon right now. Okay, fair enough, he's had a grudge and has been searching for shit to pin on ydg despite not having ANY clue information to back his claims up.

There's obviously more poor argumention from him, quite a bit of it stemming from kill MBH plan and a bit more coming from previous conversations. That alone isn't enough to pin someone as being mafia. Tricode last game was throwing up complete garbage posts, but he was just an idiot townie. What makes BC special is WHO his friends are and WHEN they support him.

Next: Lets take a gander at the vote lists:

BloodyC0bbler [13]
TruthBringer
Pyrrhuloxia
HeavOnEarth
ydg
LucasWoJ
Shikyo
BWdero
Falcynn
Scaramanga
Faronel
StorZerg
Foolishness
Vivi57

L [10]
So no fek
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Chezinu
ecomania
motbob
GoodWill
iLoveKT
Malongo
chaoser
JeeJee

Abstain [9]
redtooth
BloodyC0bbler
Fishball
Bockit
Lenwe
vx70GTOJudgexv
araav
Elemenope
MrBabyHands

The bolded member of the list are special because they correspond to typical voting periods for mafia members on a mafia candidate. Mafia will seed a list to get a bandwagon running, then let it grow a bit on its own, sprinkling a few extra votes in the middle, but holding most of their members back if they need to make a last minute push. The early voters? TruthBringer and Pyrr. TruthBringer has been silent and is by far our best clue link, and Pyrr defends BC fanatically, throwing a few red herrings at other players now and then. The two bolded votes further down correspond to the 11th and 12th votes for BC respectively, the votes needed to overcome the fact that I hadn't yet voted and assure the win for BC. Foolishness is posting useless comments and poor analysis all over the thread, adding to the 'chaos' that BC was talking about when referring to flip flopping. StorZerg Is nearly 100% silent.

The italicized members are those that have been put under suspicion in the past few pages. That said, there are likely only 3-5 mafia on that list, with the other 3-5 being on me or abstaining. Since I'm in the unique position of knowing that mafia would only vote for me to camouflage themselves (unless they wanted to warp my mind and control my precious fog votes), This tells me that BC is far too likely to be mafia to be followed in bandwagons. Lets examine those people who have been following:

Araav - 3
Storzerg
Pyrrhuloxia
So no fek

YDG - 5
Foolishness
vx70GTOJudgexv
BloodyC0bbler
iLoveKTF
Falcynn

Out of the 5 most likely mafia members, 3 of them are seeding bandwagon lists to deflect the pressure put on a fourth member: TruthBringer.

Wake the fuck up. Don't take my word for granted either. Think this shit through yourself. Town is getting fucking RAPED right now. We aren't active and the mafia are actively putting up walls of shit posts to throw you off and make you too lazy to go back and find quality information."


Like L was saying, I was playing stupid when I was just following you around, then I started thinking for myself.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 11 2009 07:29 GMT
#923
Then continue to do so and go look at the list of people who vote together I gave you earlier and compare their posts in this thread, It should enlighten you a bit.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 11 2009 07:30 GMT
#924
On July 11 2009 16:24 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2009 15:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Foolishness, Pyrr, Heres hoping you two can save the sinking ship


you made a funny


good thing i used a comma in there eh
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 11 2009 07:31 GMT
#925
Read that above note in spoiler brackets from L. I think it sums up the game pretty well.
I still think Foolishness is innocent and just following BC out of the same mistake I was making earlier in the game, but we'll have to see if the laughing stops when Kuja dies.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 11 2009 10:41 GMT
#926
Voting will last until 4am KST tonight
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 11 2009 13:01 GMT
#927
On July 11 2009 13:56 Foolishness wrote:
Bockit,

You're reasoning against BC is more along the lines of "He hasn't helped the town as emperor (or he has not been a good leader), therefore he should be killed"

My reasoning (as well as Pyrry's) for wanting to lynch people such as ecomania, kuja900, chaoser, is "These people have high possibility of being linked to clues and have strange behaviors as well as voting patterns, therefore they should be killed"

You're logic is pretty much a "strawman", good work.

And you did not give any good details about why BC should be killed except saying the "1 candidate must be mafia" (which I might add is a bad assumption when there were 3 candidates), and that "everybody who's called him out has been dead". If you were mafia (hypothetically speaking) you would lynch people calling out BC to get the town to turn against him. Outside of this and your 3rd reason of the ydg bandwagon, all you do is refer to Malongo's post instead of providing any of your own opinions on why you think he's mafia.

As a side note, the reason I left out part of your post was so that it wouldn't make my post ridiculously long, although I was trying to focus on the one part, I was considering everything you said.


when have i ever been linked to clues? work that logic center
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 11 2009 14:39 GMT
#928
On July 11 2009 22:01 chaoser wrote:

when have i ever been linked to clues? work that logic center


I believed you have been linked to stuff earlier in the thread. If you haven't then my mistake.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
July 11 2009 14:53 GMT
#929
All that is listening to bockit are retarded, when bc shows up GREEN (or blue) you'll kick yourself that you were so stupid, if bc isnt mafia bockit is scum
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
July 11 2009 15:40 GMT
#930
4 more hours O_o
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 11 2009 17:33 GMT
#931
Even if bc is mafia, we shouldn't lynch him.
The prospect of having -1kp seems too lucrative, but with a good double lynch, we essentially get the same thing.
The problem being, we can have that two more times if we don't kill bc, and if we do, we need some sun and some good lynches to end the game quicker, or else it will be drawn out at least 5 more days.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 11 2009 18:04 GMT
#932
On July 11 2009 23:39 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2009 22:01 chaoser wrote:

when have i ever been linked to clues? work that logic center


I believed you have been linked to stuff earlier in the thread. If you haven't then my mistake.


np ^_^;; the only times my name was brought up was bulb->bulbasaur and i didn't even bother to respond to that one since it's so ludicrous and poor analysis.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 11 2009 18:19 GMT
#933
wait...why are we killing BC, i understand all the clues and how he's not helping as much as a leader but we still need his double lynches....but taking those away we'll have zero chance of winning if he's green/blue. the moment he stops using the double lynches is the moment we lynch him if need be. if he IS red there's nothing bad in letting him live if he just continues to double lynch...the mafia gets 1kp extra MAYBE but we get the double lynch and we need that
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 11 2009 18:29 GMT
#934
sigh, with only half an hour left i'm sure nothing going to happen but no matter what BC flips this is a horrible idea and if he flips green/blue i'll be the first one saying i told you so.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 11 2009 19:19 GMT
#935
[image loading]
[No Clue Area]
With the events that had recently transpired, the town was in a state of chaos and confusion. Two candidates were up for lynching today Kuja900 and the Emperor BloodyC0bbler. Both were hauled up onto the gallows and the countdown to their deaths began. Kuja900 never said a word during the whole time while BloodyC0bbler frantically tried to convince the town of their mistake. The order was given to the hangman to let the victims drop. As green blood covered the ground the town knew that the fight against the Mafia would be more difficult now than ever. Kuja900 and BloodyC0bbler were given a proper burial before sundown.

As the sun set the fog lifted and revealed rain cloud forming above. The town knew that the rain was on its way.


Rain is in effect until the next lynching; Medic protection power is doubled
If you have an ability to be activated during the Night please PM me with your actions.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 11 2009 19:29 GMT
#936
.......no comment, told you all so
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 11 2009 19:29 GMT
#937
god dam retards now this game is fucked.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 11 2009 19:29 GMT
#938
lynch everyone that voted for BC. hopefully the mafia was stupid enough.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
July 11 2009 19:31 GMT
#939
Let's lynch pyrr next. He's a witch I tell ya!
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
July 11 2009 19:40 GMT
#940
Game-changing post coming up. I'll have it written in 10 minutes.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
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