EPTOn July 11 2009 15:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Foolishness, Pyrr, Heres hoping you two can save the sinking ship
Foolishness, Pyrr, Heres hoping you two can save the sinking ship
you made a funny
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Ace
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Pyrrhuloxia
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On July 11 2009 16:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Pyrr, Do you ever read my analysis in games? I LINK EVERYONE TO EVERYTHING, and work from day to day of who links more and more and eliminate the rest. It sets marks in threads of my own train of thought to go back to and reflect on. As for so no fek giving himself away, go re-read his posts. I mean I do that too with suspects. I looked over the notes about Kuja i had saved and that's how I found him. Here's a note I have saved from L, for instance: + Show Spoiler + "Lets examine the general course of conversation this game has taken. We started talking in general terms about weather. We then slid into a chat about what type of mafia one would send into the election. The answer was simple: the godfather. Elections went on, some odd voting happened, then we nearly completely dropped the topic. Why is this important? Because BC is acting incoherently in his role. BC will criticize ydg for 'flip flopping', but flip flops himself, posting: On July 05 2009 14:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ydg Ecomania Elemenope Kuja Scamp If elected, i will be random # generating from this list. Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game) Elemenope seems shifty to me based on a question he asked previously in the thread, ecomania, kuja and scamp due to general inactivity then essentially going "oh wait nevermind, i'm going to kill a power player instead" 40 minutes later. Regardless of the wisdom of the plan, BC can't be pointing out other people for changing their minds when he's been the biggest flip flopper in the game when it comes down to concrete life or death decisions. More importantly, check that list: Who's number 1 there? The person BC is trying to get the town to bandwagon right now. Okay, fair enough, he's had a grudge and has been searching for shit to pin on ydg despite not having ANY clue information to back his claims up. There's obviously more poor argumention from him, quite a bit of it stemming from kill MBH plan and a bit more coming from previous conversations. That alone isn't enough to pin someone as being mafia. Tricode last game was throwing up complete garbage posts, but he was just an idiot townie. What makes BC special is WHO his friends are and WHEN they support him. Next: Lets take a gander at the vote lists: BloodyC0bbler [13] TruthBringer Pyrrhuloxia HeavOnEarth ydg LucasWoJ Shikyo BWdero Falcynn Scaramanga Faronel StorZerg Foolishness Vivi57 L [10] So no fek iNfuNdiBuLuM Chezinu ecomania motbob GoodWill iLoveKT Malongo chaoser JeeJee Abstain [9] redtooth BloodyC0bbler Fishball Bockit Lenwe vx70GTOJudgexv araav Elemenope MrBabyHands The bolded member of the list are special because they correspond to typical voting periods for mafia members on a mafia candidate. Mafia will seed a list to get a bandwagon running, then let it grow a bit on its own, sprinkling a few extra votes in the middle, but holding most of their members back if they need to make a last minute push. The early voters? TruthBringer and Pyrr. TruthBringer has been silent and is by far our best clue link, and Pyrr defends BC fanatically, throwing a few red herrings at other players now and then. The two bolded votes further down correspond to the 11th and 12th votes for BC respectively, the votes needed to overcome the fact that I hadn't yet voted and assure the win for BC. Foolishness is posting useless comments and poor analysis all over the thread, adding to the 'chaos' that BC was talking about when referring to flip flopping. StorZerg Is nearly 100% silent. The italicized members are those that have been put under suspicion in the past few pages. That said, there are likely only 3-5 mafia on that list, with the other 3-5 being on me or abstaining. Since I'm in the unique position of knowing that mafia would only vote for me to camouflage themselves (unless they wanted to warp my mind and control my precious fog votes), This tells me that BC is far too likely to be mafia to be followed in bandwagons. Lets examine those people who have been following: Araav - 3 Storzerg Pyrrhuloxia So no fek YDG - 5 Foolishness vx70GTOJudgexv BloodyC0bbler iLoveKTF Falcynn Out of the 5 most likely mafia members, 3 of them are seeding bandwagon lists to deflect the pressure put on a fourth member: TruthBringer. Wake the fuck up. Don't take my word for granted either. Think this shit through yourself. Town is getting fucking RAPED right now. We aren't active and the mafia are actively putting up walls of shit posts to throw you off and make you too lazy to go back and find quality information." Like L was saying, I was playing stupid when I was just following you around, then I started thinking for myself. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
I still think Foolishness is innocent and just following BC out of the same mistake I was making earlier in the game, but we'll have to see if the laughing stops when Kuja dies. | ||
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chaoser
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On July 11 2009 13:56 Foolishness wrote: Bockit, You're reasoning against BC is more along the lines of "He hasn't helped the town as emperor (or he has not been a good leader), therefore he should be killed" My reasoning (as well as Pyrry's) for wanting to lynch people such as ecomania, kuja900, chaoser, is "These people have high possibility of being linked to clues and have strange behaviors as well as voting patterns, therefore they should be killed" You're logic is pretty much a "strawman", good work. And you did not give any good details about why BC should be killed except saying the "1 candidate must be mafia" (which I might add is a bad assumption when there were 3 candidates), and that "everybody who's called him out has been dead". If you were mafia (hypothetically speaking) you would lynch people calling out BC to get the town to turn against him. Outside of this and your 3rd reason of the ydg bandwagon, all you do is refer to Malongo's post instead of providing any of your own opinions on why you think he's mafia. As a side note, the reason I left out part of your post was so that it wouldn't make my post ridiculously long, although I was trying to focus on the one part, I was considering everything you said. when have i ever been linked to clues? work that logic center | ||
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On July 11 2009 22:01 chaoser wrote: when have i ever been linked to clues? work that logic center I believed you have been linked to stuff earlier in the thread. If you haven't then my mistake. | ||
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ydg
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The prospect of having -1kp seems too lucrative, but with a good double lynch, we essentially get the same thing. The problem being, we can have that two more times if we don't kill bc, and if we do, we need some sun and some good lynches to end the game quicker, or else it will be drawn out at least 5 more days. | ||
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chaoser
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On July 11 2009 23:39 Foolishness wrote: I believed you have been linked to stuff earlier in the thread. If you haven't then my mistake. np ^_^;; the only times my name was brought up was bulb->bulbasaur and i didn't even bother to respond to that one since it's so ludicrous and poor analysis. | ||
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Plexa
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![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLnight.png) [No Clue Area] With the events that had recently transpired, the town was in a state of chaos and confusion. Two candidates were up for lynching today Kuja900 and the Emperor BloodyC0bbler. Both were hauled up onto the gallows and the countdown to their deaths began. Kuja900 never said a word during the whole time while BloodyC0bbler frantically tried to convince the town of their mistake. The order was given to the hangman to let the victims drop. As green blood covered the ground the town knew that the fight against the Mafia would be more difficult now than ever. Kuja900 and BloodyC0bbler were given a proper burial before sundown. As the sun set the fog lifted and revealed rain cloud forming above. The town knew that the rain was on its way. Rain is in effect until the next lynching; Medic protection power is doubled If you have an ability to be activated during the Night please PM me with your actions. | ||
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