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On July 11 2009 15:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Pyrr, did you even look at the pm I gave you? It gives you almost all you need to solve these clues, stop following bandwagons and think you tard, Or am I seriously giving you too much credit.
I did look at the pm, and if you turn up innocent somehow ill look at it, but again man, you've been making flatout nonsense/false statements all game and behaving differently than normal and I've laid out plenty of clues that I think point to you.
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On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers.
What's the number or mafia/pledge again? I don't think there'd by any way to tell whether kuja is mafia/pledge short of playing the odds. Or is there another way to figure it out?
the problem with voting snow is that towns' clue analysis has been less than subpar so far. voting snow today would give assassins a better clueset for sunny tomorrow, which, I concede, is a good point.
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Foolishness
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Since Plexa has been absent for ~20 hours now, it's safe to assume he's probably going to extend the day, much like he did earlier in the game. I'm personally in disfavor of this but whatever he's the host and I guess if he wants to be absent for nearly a day at a time it's his call.
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On July 11 2009 15:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
What's the number or mafia/pledge again? I don't think there'd by any way to tell whether kuja is mafia/pledge short of playing the odds. Or is there another way to figure it out?
the problem with voting snow is that towns' clue analysis has been less than subpar so far. voting snow today would give assassins a better clueset for sunny tomorrow, which, I concede, is a good point.
Right now there are 3 pledges and 2 mafioso's alive.
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On July 11 2009 15:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I am well aware moron. You flip green 6-7 games out of 8-9 and tell me you would continue playing with everything you have. In the moments I have tried, bullshit stuff like whats currently going on happens and town happily goes along. All motivation to seriously help you guys win is gone, especially after the retardedness stemming from today. If you honestly think the gf would be dumb enough to run during the elections, you all have no idea how to play this. At best a regular mafia ran for office as it allows the gf to just spam his cover on whoever he wants and keep the 1 KP bonus. By running for office and potentially being elected, mafia would lose its leadership/alot of its KP.
Hell a mafia candidate or elected official would never have attempted to abuse a resurrection ability, or push to have mafia KP dropped, etc...
But Logic has been gone on everyone but a few players. As much as I hate L, the guy knew his stuff for the most part this game, then you have newish players liek foolishness stepping up and not getting listened to, and instead people listen to players like Bockit and Malongo. Malongo who is universally accepted as a horrible player, and bockit who mentioned in the first day he wasnt good at this game.
But hey, listen to them, they will I'm sure lead the town to die, so happy trails retards.
I don't think you're the gf.
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On July 11 2009 15:42 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
What's the number or mafia/pledge again? I don't think there'd by any way to tell whether kuja is mafia/pledge short of playing the odds. Or is there another way to figure it out?
the problem with voting snow is that towns' clue analysis has been less than subpar so far. voting snow today would give assassins a better clueset for sunny tomorrow, which, I concede, is a good point. Right now there are 3 pledges and 2 mafioso's alive.
And 1 godfather so 1+1+1+1.5 rounded down = 4. Ok, got it.
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On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers.
you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine.
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No shit moron, by killing off 2 more double lynches, you NEED, snow and sunny to win. Your dt can never 100% prove shite with mafia check so you need his lists at this point to use along side your assassins. as for total count, of mafia/pledge
You know 1 gf exists, 1 pledge (bomber) is dead and one reg mafia is dead. You also know starting KP was 4.5 rounded up to 5.
so, your at 3.5 round up to 4, if you take out the gf, its 2.5 round up to 3.
of that 2.5, at least one will be regular mafia, so your at 2. Now this is where if you hit a pledge, your at 1.5, and after fog will be .75 rounded up to 1.
Giving you a total of 3 KP anyway. If you hit a reg mafia you may drop the KP but chances of that are lower than hitting a pledge.
So seriously consider voting sunny/snow, fuck even rain, but fog won't save you at this point.
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On July 11 2009 15:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
And 1 godfather so 1+1+1+1.5 rounded down = 4. Ok, got it.
Go reread the rules on how mafia power is counted.
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ah you're right I counted regular mafia as 1. So it's 3.5 rounded up to 4. if a pledge dies kp drops to 3, and Fog no longer reduces kp.
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Did Plexa really imbalance the game so much that we are already fucked when we have yet to miss a lynch? I kind of doubt that. But let's drum up unnecessary panic anyway. We should vote sunny though, we have 4 good targets imo.
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On July 11 2009 15:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers. you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine.
I also assumed the town didnt need me or L to help them win. I'm glad to see foolishness really stepping up, and pyrr I know even your analysis can do better than what your doing. I told you in the pm and i posted the same info here,
Plexa is appearing to do clues based off a similar style to qatol and chuiu, as well as general characteristics to look for, but YOU should have already figured that out, half this town should have. Ydg mentioned it a few pages ago.
So people seriously go back and read it.
Also pyrr, one dt is dead, one priest is dead. The priest as clue sniped (that was obvious as fucked), and the dt gave himself away. The mafia are not retarded, they have set up this entire scenario to get me killed removing Town KP.
This should be evident as by day 3, most mafia will have been linked to at least once.
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On July 11 2009 15:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Did Plexa really imbalance the game so much that we are already fucked when we have yet to miss a lynch? I kind of doubt that. But let's drum up unnecessary panic anyway. We should vote sunny though, we have 4 good targets imo.
If anything it was balanced in town's favor.
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On July 11 2009 15:33 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Oh, weather! With only 1 mystic left, fuck voting for rain.
Fog - guaranteed kp drop to 3. This isn't bad at all, and is certainly the safest choice right now.
Sunny - a gambit. I'm pretty sure our assassins can pick some solid targets by now. If we don't vote it today, next day for sure.
Snow - also a gambit because all we get is clues, and depending on who dies we could be fucked for clue analysis. Sunny is a safer vote than this.
I'm voting Fog.
Uh, mystics are dets. We still have angels.
On July 11 2009 15:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Go look at all of my clue analysis about BC from earlier, and then look at all the connections to vampires we've made from Mr Julia. In that bloody cobbler blog i showed earlier there's a "You scored as Dracula." post. Chezinu has green skin, while this mafia's is yellow and I've seen none of the other many Mr Julia traits pop up for him. LucasWoJ could fit with the MJ surgery and the colors and the time thing, but again I think I've made better cases for Falcynn and BC.
Vampires can also be linked to a ton of other people though, like iLoveKT (google his name, 4th result) or even Scaramanga (guy who played Scaramanga played Dracula)
There are 4 mafia left that we know of:
-Tall and lanky
-Person who likes bombs
-Mr Julia
-Petrifier
and maybe
-Funny dressed, odd sense of humor, guy
If we can draw some connections from bc's list to these guys, then that would help a lot (still going with clues=describe person's physical and behavioral attributes)
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On July 11 2009 15:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers. you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine.
Also as a note, at this point, If i was mafia, I would pull a qatol and troll you guys beyond belief over give you any tips needed to win, so again pyrr, learn to think, I expect alot more out of you.
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On July 11 2009 15:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers. you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine. I also assumed the town didnt need me or L to help them win. I'm glad to see foolishness really stepping up, and pyrr I know even your analysis can do better than what your doing. I told you in the pm and i posted the same info here, Plexa is appearing to do clues based off a similar style to qatol and chuiu, as well as general characteristics to look for, but YOU should have already figured that out, half this town should have. Ydg mentioned it a few pages ago. So people seriously go back and read it. Also pyrr, one dt is dead, one priest is dead. The priest as clue sniped (that was obvious as fucked), and the dt gave himself away. The mafia are not retarded, they have set up this entire scenario to get me killed removing Town KP. This should be evident as by day 3, most mafia will have been linked to at least once.
Fuck. All this time I thought So no fek was an angel.
Why of all times are you suddenly making sense now? When you're on the executioner's slate? Damnit man, I wish your behavior early in the game wasn't so incredibly incriminating. I retract my vote, hesitantly.
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On July 11 2009 16:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers. you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine. Also as a note, at this point, If i was mafia, I would pull a qatol and troll you guys beyond belief over give you any tips needed to win, so again pyrr, learn to think, I expect alot more out of you.
If you were trying to live you'd probably not make it obvious you were mafia. Also, Qatol did that a lot later in the game when it was pretty much over and he had no chance of surviving.
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Not that was helpful, hahaha. Man, infundi as i said, Roll green almost every game you play and tell me you will play seriously. Look at caller, he goofed off and fucked around for games until he flipped red and instantly stepped up his game.
I'm helping with sense now so you guys have an idea where you botched up once I'm dead. Getting the assassins working in tandum is your first job, but I will let you find them yourself and it shouldn't be hard at this point. Just go into it knowing that although they get two hits each, they will only get to use one each, also assume the remaining mystic will only get one listcheck off before dying as well.
Then get your act together and
A) check vote lists - They are hugely important here
B) Go re-read the posts in this thread. Doing clue analysis the last 2 days has been draining as almost nothign appears insanely solid clue wise, but re-reading the thread will give away most players.
Heres hoping you guys don't follow the last few games progression of getting lucky at the mafia fucking up worse than the town.
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On July 11 2009 16:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 15:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 11 2009 15:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 11 2009 15:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, your two best bets to win at this point if you off me is snow and sunny.
Without the double lynches you will need the 2 hits each assassin gets to win. Hell, you will need the extra clues as well, fog at this point will do nothing as most likely kuja or ecomania is a pledge and when they die along side me fog won't drop their kp enough.
But hey, just giving you some pointers. you're getting awfully helpful now but I'm not sure snow is a good idea at this point. I think if we go sunny and go after falcynn and whoever survives out of eco/kuja we'll be doing fine. I also assumed the town didnt need me or L to help them win. I'm glad to see foolishness really stepping up, and pyrr I know even your analysis can do better than what your doing. I told you in the pm and i posted the same info here, Plexa is appearing to do clues based off a similar style to qatol and chuiu, as well as general characteristics to look for, but YOU should have already figured that out, half this town should have. Ydg mentioned it a few pages ago. So people seriously go back and read it. Also pyrr, one dt is dead, one priest is dead. The priest as clue sniped (that was obvious as fucked), and the dt gave himself away. The mafia are not retarded, they have set up this entire scenario to get me killed removing Town KP. This should be evident as by day 3, most mafia will have been linked to at least once. Fuck. All this time I thought So no fek was an angel. Why of all times are you suddenly making sense now? When you're on the executioner's slate? Damnit man, I wish your behavior early in the game wasn't so incredibly incriminating. I retract my vote, hesitantly.
How did the DT give himself away? What about this is exonerating? It seems to me like the plan was to throw out a bunch of targets and hope we got confused and Foolishness and I have been trying to make up for that all day, while BC shows up at the 13th hour and claims a conspiracy despite lying about colors and acting suspiciously at every point of the game until he absolutely has to clean up his act to avoid death.
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Pyrr, Do you ever read my analysis in games? I LINK EVERYONE TO EVERYTHING, and work from day to day of who links more and more and eliminate the rest. It sets marks in threads of my own train of thought to go back to and reflect on.
As for so no fek giving himself away, go re-read his posts.
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