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Stop the League of Legends bashing. Temp bans will be handed out from now on. - Page 32.
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 04:53:14
October 12 2013 04:51 GMT
#921
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.
Drone then Own
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 12 2013 04:54 GMT
#922
Yeah all that stuff has been said before amongst many other things but lol man at your last line. You didn't really need to say that last bit. -_-
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 12 2013 05:20 GMT
#923
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.


I know how you feel man, but it is what it is. We can only hope at this point
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Malphite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States186 Posts
October 12 2013 05:34 GMT
#924
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.


Don't know why he was banned.. he's stating facts.

MKP is a huge loss...... Just for example... If doublelift ever left League for another game. Doublelift is the most popular player in NA... one of the most popular players in the world bar none... and he has not won anything LOL. He's my fav player just like MKP.

I watched his last SC 2 match, when he lost the game that he should of won after a failed rush. MKP will always be SC2 even if he does great things in League to me....
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
October 12 2013 05:35 GMT
#925
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.

I don't know why people who write decent rants attempt to ruin it by calling out to mods that temp banning said rant is ok/useless/doesnt matter/im expressing my view and some facts here.
When cats speak, mice listen.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 12 2013 05:35 GMT
#926
On October 12 2013 14:34 Malphite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.


Don't know why he was banned.. he's stating facts.

MKP is a huge loss...... Just for example... If doublelift ever left League for another game. Doublelift is the most popular player in NA... one of the most popular players in the world bar none... and he has not won anything LOL. He's my fav player just like MKP.

I watched his last SC 2 match, when he lost the game that he should of won after a failed rush. MKP will always be SC2 even if he does great things in League to me....

He was probably banned for martyring.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 12 2013 05:38 GMT
#927
On October 12 2013 14:34 Malphite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.


Don't know why he was banned.. he's stating facts.

MKP is a huge loss...... Just for example... If doublelift ever left League for another game. Doublelift is the most popular player in NA... one of the most popular players in the world bar none... and he has not won anything LOL. He's my fav player just like MKP.

I watched his last SC 2 match, when he lost the game that he should of won after a failed rush. MKP will always be SC2 even if he does great things in League to me....


Martyring (saying "ban me") results in a ban 100% of the time. Doesn't matter how good or amazing the post is. Unfortunate, but rules are rules.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
October 12 2013 05:43 GMT
#928
:-/ Farewell MK, been fun watching you game!
XK ßubonic
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#929
On October 12 2013 14:34 Malphite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.


Don't know why he was banned.. he's stating facts.

MKP is a huge loss...... Just for example... If doublelift ever left League for another game. Doublelift is the most popular player in NA... one of the most popular players in the world bar none... and he has not won anything LOL. He's my fav player just like MKP.

I watched his last SC 2 match, when he lost the game that he should of won after a failed rush. MKP will always be SC2 even if he does great things in League to me....

He said I hope I don't get banned for this and it's a auto ban on teamliquid. On Topic: GL HF in LoL MKP I will follow you wherever you go
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
October 12 2013 06:05 GMT
#930
TL admins r pretty retardly strict sometimes, but rules are rules >.>

I'm so sad MKP is gone from the scene. Probably time for me to take off my Prime tag as I was mainly cheering for him =((
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
October 12 2013 06:28 GMT
#931
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.



i dont understand why he is banned ..
this is a quote
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
October 12 2013 06:31 GMT
#932
On October 12 2013 15:28 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 13:51 Smigi wrote:
I've played broodwar for 5 years being C+ on iccup, and played starcraft 2 for 3 years while then being a masters player. I am now pursuing a Doctorate program, so I've quit the past year to focus on that, but still follow SC2 religiously. I usually never post, but I'll post on this one.

Lack of social aspect in the community. The experience of SC2 is very cold, even for the beginner. You play a ladder match, and you get bad mannered or mocked for being of lesser skill. You leave ladder game, thats it. There is minimal interaction between casual gamers. The channel sytem and BNET 2.0 is comical to say the least. So the casual gamer gets frustrated with a game that is harder to pick up as opposed to others, as a community during ladder games we are for the most part disrespectful toward them (calling them noobs ect.), and they are left with a channel/bnet system that does not promote social activity. And we are really asking why SC2 is losing some popularity?

Casual gamers are what gives a game its popularity, they are responsible for high views, and ultimately responsible for more tournaments with higher prizes. Casual gamers want to buy the same mouse or keyboard that Jaedong has or MKP has, casual gamers are the ones who make up the bulk of twitch.tv views, casual gamers make up the bulk of audiences at tournaments around the world. What do we do as a community? We bad mouth them for their lesser amount of skill, we charge them 100 dollars an hour for lessons, we give them a BNET system with a laughable social integration, we charge them HD subscriptions to watch GOM.TV in a decent quality, and we ban them on TeamLiquid for making a post that might be slightly misinformed or having an opinion that is unpopular. Then we sit here and ask why this game is losing popularity? We treat people like trash for the MOST part. Stop claiming we are a community and starting ACTING like we are a community.

If I am temp banned for expressing my feelings in a mature and constructive way, it only speaks to what I'm trying to communicate here.

/Rant Over

User was temp banned for this post.



i dont understand why he is banned ..

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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 06:41:47
October 12 2013 06:41 GMT
#933
Probably the only retirement of the mass retirements of the last half year that have really made me a bit sad. Well I guess Stephano as well, as he was a unique character in the scene, but MarineKing was the guy that really got me into watching pro sc2 matches. A friend linked me to "BoxeR" vs kyrix vods and i was in awe with the godly micro he showed and never stopped watching the GSL ever since

Sad to see him go
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 12 2013 06:58 GMT
#934
I just watched BoxeR vs Kyrix again. He was already so amazing and doing builds that still somewhat exist today that no one thought possible. And that micro, man...
This particular retirement hurts :/
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
October 12 2013 07:17 GMT
#935
On October 12 2013 12:28 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 11:23 plogamer wrote:
SC2 is still the best e-sports title, but not as appreciated by the masses. It's the pinnacle of individual prowess in all fields.

Take LoL or Dota, both titles take individual prowess of certain magnitute, but at the same time the load is divided by roles. There's the offence role for gankers, carries, pushers. There's the defensive role for supports and controllers. And so and so forth.

In SC2, you are your team captain (ie. no master strategist giving orders, reading enemy movements, etc.), you are your own offence and defense. And you are your own WORST ENEMY. Dun dun dunnnnnn. It is a struggle within as much as it is a struggle with out.

Okay, enough fanboyism. This isn't a bash. But SC2 is the most taxing e-sports title on an individual. I played shit tons of it and stopped because it was such a huge time-sink. Easier to commit the avg. 30 mins game of mine despite the harder gameplay.

The following interview is A) hilarious, B) refreshingly honest.




It's like saying Tennis is the best sports, and football, soccer, hockey are not since the load is divided by roles...

Every sports/esports requires different skillset, just because your excel skills is for SC2 but not LoL/Dota2 doesn't mean those games are worse than SC2.


but BW and SC2 are definitive.

i agree, football is often more fun to watch than individual sports. but it's not as visceral as putting two gladiators in an empty stadium, and only the winner gets to walk out. one on one, no rules, nothing fancy, just kill each other.

it doesn't get manlier than that.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 07:41:28
October 12 2013 07:41 GMT
#936
On October 12 2013 11:23 plogamer wrote:
SC2 is still the best e-sports title, but not as appreciated by the masses. It's the pinnacle of individual prowess in all fields.

Take LoL or Dota, both titles take individual prowess of certain magnitute, but at the same time the load is divided by roles. There's the offence role for gankers, carries, pushers. There's the defensive role for supports and controllers. And so and so forth.

In SC2, you are your team captain (ie. no master strategist giving orders, reading enemy movements, etc.), you are your own offence and defense. And you are your own WORST ENEMY. Dun dun dunnnnnn. It is a struggle within as much as it is a struggle with out.

Okay, enough fanboyism. This isn't a bash. But SC2 is the most taxing e-sports title on an individual. I played shit tons of it and stopped because it was such a huge time-sink. Easier to commit the avg. 30 mins game of mine despite the harder gameplay.

The following interview is A) hilarious, B) refreshingly honest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxWMC8WDR9M



I thought it was funny Give that guy his BC icon on tl forums plz or do we need to organise a kickstarter
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
October 12 2013 07:43 GMT
#937
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
October 12 2013 07:51 GMT
#938
well the red ban mark does make the post more visible so i guess it's a good posting strategy
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 12 2013 07:52 GMT
#939
On October 12 2013 16:41 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 11:23 plogamer wrote:
SC2 is still the best e-sports title, but not as appreciated by the masses. It's the pinnacle of individual prowess in all fields.

Take LoL or Dota, both titles take individual prowess of certain magnitute, but at the same time the load is divided by roles. There's the offence role for gankers, carries, pushers. There's the defensive role for supports and controllers. And so and so forth.

In SC2, you are your team captain (ie. no master strategist giving orders, reading enemy movements, etc.), you are your own offence and defense. And you are your own WORST ENEMY. Dun dun dunnnnnn. It is a struggle within as much as it is a struggle with out.

Okay, enough fanboyism. This isn't a bash. But SC2 is the most taxing e-sports title on an individual. I played shit tons of it and stopped because it was such a huge time-sink. Easier to commit the avg. 30 mins game of mine despite the harder gameplay.

The following interview is A) hilarious, B) refreshingly honest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxWMC8WDR9M



I thought it was funny Give that guy his BC icon on tl forums plz or do we need to organise a kickstarter

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=locodoco
He already has it.
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hereticfurby
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 12 2013 07:54 GMT
#940
Thus, I officially quit SC2 myself. Many of my favorite players have left the scene and it is just too difficult to play Terran at a high level in comparison to Zerg and Protoss. I'm not talking balance, I'm talking mechanical skill and effort required to come out on top in macro and micro.
It really seems like the "best" players have their run for about a year to 2 years max, then they become a no-name in the scene again.
GG, SC2.
It's been fun.
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