EPTPatch 1.1.2 Notes - Page 41
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
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Kazang
578 Posts
Voidray change actually makes voidrays much much better against corruptors in a normal engagement situation without a critical mass of voidrays and them all being pre-charged. Over short fights the voidray dps is much higher than before. | ||
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MagisterMan
Sweden525 Posts
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mvillalo
Canada10 Posts
Too bad ZvZ is my worst matchup | ||
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HypertonicHydroponic
437 Posts
Personally, my reaction is meh to bleh. I see a few decent looking changes, and a few that I don't really care about, but the silly, silly* over-reaction of changing a classic, nay, historic tech tree is just beyond my comprehension. A.I. in SC1 would always build barracks on 8, supply on 9... where's the respect? Nerf *reapers* to require supply depot, or engineering bay, or factory, or ghost academy... but nerfing the entire tech tree beginning with the barracks... well, let's just hope that every single map has a ramp or super narrow choke and that no one gets innovative with their maps... oh, and that no one proxy gateways in base or 6 pools. Marines cry. Very poor judgment Bliz. Also, I think the thor buff is stupid. Leave it with energy and just make the 250mm worthwhile, like doing 750-1000 damage to structures only (whether or not they are floating), or making it a splash damage attack like the Odin's in the campaign but with a much smaller radius. *insert strong language here | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
My Opinions on the balance changes: Protoss: Nexus: Wtf, where did this come from? I don't think this is needed, but ok... Void Ray: Meh, makes them less deadly en masse in 3v3s/4v4s. Doesn't affect my laddering too much. Terran: Supply Depot: I do not agree with the rax requires supply depot, but oh well, i dont play terran. Supply depot: Ew, now it takes two more DT slices to kill. Medivac: Doesn't affect my play too much, because DTs are in their base killin their doods before they get medvacs out. Helps against drops though, which is good. Reaper: This wasn't the problem with terran, it was Concussive shells, not Nitro Packs. No one will use reapers now. Thor: This is going to make them a bit harder to kill (no feedback) but immortals can still pwn them. Zerg: Buildings:I am OK with all the building life increases excluding the spire. Now timing attacks need to do even more damage... Corruptor: I don't care one bit. Infestor: Meh, dont really care. Roach: This is gonna make PvZ early game hard as hell. 5 Roach Rush = GG | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
Looking forward to play games on this new patch and see how good roaches gonna be with 4 range. Hope this HP increase for buildings will be good, marauders wont snipe Nexus THAT fast now. `Sorry for my english` | ||
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funk100
United Kingdom172 Posts
seriusly though, damm good patch | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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graphene
Finland211 Posts
Roach: This is gonna make PvZ early game hard as hell. 5 Roach Rush = GGSee More a few [/QUOTE] after u reach 1300 diamond that BO sucks will loose to 4 gate or 3 gate robo or voidray 4 gate etc... | ||
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Invol2ver
United States330 Posts
The only thing the change does is make the fact that you aren't using it no longer a liability if HT's are on the field. | ||
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Sv1
United States204 Posts
Now blizz has given terran even less incentive to get it. If I'm building a factory, I'll probably spend the gas on upgrades rather than reapers | ||
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flyguy
United States45 Posts
Now they are a little more powerful right off the bat and not god-like once they are fully charged hovering over someones base. Seems to make sense to me. | ||
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Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
I'm fascinated with what the MLG, Blizzcon and the GSL are going to look like with this new patch in place. The WoW tourneys will be nuts too since an enormous patch just went down there. Should be interesting! | ||
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SwiftOneSpeaks
5 Posts
Roach change is awesome and needed power...the other nerfs handed around to the other races mean that Zerg will be viewed as OP and just as other races figure out how to exploit zerg weakness (such as our limited anti-air) a big zerg nerf will come in and we'll be hit with a double-whammy (just as Terran is now). Oh well, at least we won't be Toss with their constant lack of love. (You'll always have MLG Raleigh!) In the GSL2 I'm predicting early Zerg and Terran domination with a surprise midgame rally by the top Terran and Protoss players exploiting FE (I've already seen this in the metagame since GSL1 - don't let zerg macro unharassed) and harass builds, until only FruitDealer again defends the swarm for the win. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Now at least they do reasonable damage off the bat, so you can use them in battles, and you can use them for defense. I do think getting longer range back would make sense though, because it fits with their purpose now as being a unit designed for use in actual fights. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:27 graphene wrote: after u reach 1300 diamond that BO sucks will loose to 4 gate or 3 gate robo or voidray 4 gate etc... Well, im only 1000 diamond, so that BO still works, and robo facility + building an observer + building an immortal takes some time. | ||
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:25 57 Corvette wrote: Zerg: Roach: This is gonna make PvZ early game hard as hell. 5 Roach Rush = GG If you were still building zealots when 5RR arrives it would have been GG either way until you get a stalker or two. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
Buildings:I am OK with all the building life increases excluding the spire. Now timing attacks need to do even more damage... A spire costs 250/200 and takes 100 seconds to build. Yea, I think it should have more than 600 health. Your timing attacks will still work perfectly fine. | ||
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graphene
Finland211 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:29 57 Corvette wrote: after u reach 1300 diamond that BO sucks will loose to 4 gate or 3 gate robo or voidray 4 gate etc... Well, im only 1000 diamond, so that BO still works, and robo facility + building an observer + building an immortal takes some time.[/QUOTE] im 1600 diamond, believe doesnt work.... | ||
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