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drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#841
looks sweet imo. everything quite reasonable.
@nowSimon
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#842
On October 15 2010 05:21 Gleen wrote:
oh... now thors in tvp

lets pratice carrier micro.


Thors actually own carriers, hard to believe.

I know because I personally used Carriers with +2 to counter 1/1 thors and the carriers did incredibly badly.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#843
OK, I wanna change my vote for whose going to win MLG DC to idra now...
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
doktorFunken
Profile Joined September 2010
United States41 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#844
Now all they need to do is figure out a way to eliminate cannon rush cheese and I don't think I could come up with a single thing to complain about. Maybe a Forge should require a Gateway.

I might be kidding, I might not be. Don't shoot me if whether or not you think I'm kidding jibes with your own personal beliefs.
All we need is a little Energon and a lot of luck.
teser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#845
Damnit! lol i just filled out all my sc2 liquibets and only put like 4 zergs through to the ro32 thinking this patch wouldn't be out by this weekend. I need a do over!
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
October 14 2010 20:38 GMT
#846
does the voidray has 3 stages of damage? or only two?
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 14 2010 20:39 GMT
#847
On October 15 2010 05:35 DragonDefonce wrote:
What the hell is up with the voidray change? Aside from whether or not voidrays were op, now that its been nerfed to hell, no one is gonna use it. It went from 25dps to armored to 16dps to armored. Moreover, most of the dps lost came from the bonus against armored. And now, you remove energy on thors and corruptors? no feedback? really bliz?

In addition, the reaper change is ridiculous. I'm a protoss player and I am against that change. Roach buff I'm ok with, but a fail patch in general.



.6 attack speed makes this around 40 to around 25.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 14 2010 20:39 GMT
#848
On October 15 2010 05:37 Salv wrote:
How much will the roach range increase affect roach vs hellions? I think it's a pretty big difference. Right now, you can force the T to retreat by sending your roaches, the bad thing is that they could be kited, but can they now? I think roaches will always get a hit in on them now. I'm not saying that's bad, I just mean is that the case?


Hellions have range 5, but the time needed for them to restart after shooting should allow the first roachs to have a shot off.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2010 20:39 GMT
#849
On October 15 2010 05:38 doktorFunken wrote:
Now all they need to do is figure out a way to eliminate cannon rush cheese and I don't think I could come up with a single thing to complain about. Maybe a Forge should require a Gateway.

I might be kidding, I might not be. Don't shoot me if whether or not you think I'm kidding jibes with your own personal beliefs.


lol kind of obvious you are. but to be honest a gateway does require a pylon though.
When I think of something else, something will go here
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 14 2010 20:39 GMT
#850
I think especially the reaper needs to be redone completely, in don't see a place in the game with the current changes.

On the other hand I'd like to see a clear definition of the void ray, is it supposed to counter massive units? In this case they could remove the charged level and replace it with a constantly building charge on the target that will be lost when the target will be changed. The carrier is probably the most underused unit in the game, maybe if Blizzard makes changes to include the carrier in the game protoss would not rely on void rays so heavily.

What I am trying to say is: Changing the damage output/building time/movement speed, etc. slightly just works when the unit has a place in the game. But imo the reaper is the most broken unit in the game at this point (followed by the void ray).
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 14 2010 20:40 GMT
#851
I think the VR and Reaper nerf is unnecessary. Reapers were already useless mid-late game. Now they are useless, period. Way to have such an unique and fun unit such as the reaper be completely unplayable now. Depot before rax like I've stated before destroys variety in the game. They seem to want to make the early game as stagnant as possible.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 14 2010 20:40 GMT
#852
On October 15 2010 05:30 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 05:07 Yaotzin wrote:
On October 15 2010 05:02 Kiante wrote:
+2 attack thors + ghosts = 3 shot immortals while immortals take 8 shots to kill a thor. Mass thor tvp IS A GO

For about two games, then people realise voids still barbecue thors.


And like 3 stimmed marines rape a void now.

Not really? Uncharged the void is better off now, charged it's 20% less damage. Kinda a wash. It's against armored that it really got nerfed damage wise.

Not at home right now can someone test how many stimmed marines take a void now and can queens 1v1 them now even charged?

Any battle starting with uncharged rays is likely to actually be more in favor of them. While people will say "yeah but anyone half decent just charged them", there are plenty of cases of charge being lost and the T/Z player still dying horribly. In those cases voids just got stronger. So I'm dubious that they are now unviable.

Again, the effect against non-armored (marines, queens, whatever), isn't very big. Your 3 marines will still get fried by a void no problemo.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 20:41:38
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#853
On October 15 2010 05:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 05:21 Gleen wrote:
oh... now thors in tvp

lets pratice carrier micro.


Thors actually own carriers, hard to believe.

I know because I personally used Carriers with +2 to counter 1/1 thors and the carriers did incredibly badly.

Thors do pathetic damage to anything non-light, and even more pathetic damage to anything with decent armor. There is no way in hell they remotely own carriers.
Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#854
I think i might have to start playing again finally now that everything seems to be balancing out pretty evenly

add meh if youre gold or low plat lol
broodie.558
SilentLiquid.Broodie - Author of Tango Terminal, Ophilia RE, Cajun Quandary, & The Beneath
Minimi][
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany43 Posts
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#855
On October 15 2010 03:15 Devlin wrote:
Wrong. Banelings do 80 (base) damage to buildings. You still need 5 (5x80=400) banelings to destroy a depot, same as before.


depots have 1 armor so banelings only do 79 dmg depots, therefore u need 6 banes to kill a depot
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#856
You probably can't kite roaches with stalkers anymore.
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#857
I'm even OK with most of these changes, but making a depot a prerequisite for barracks is bad. Period.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Azn_Christian
Profile Joined September 2010
United States153 Posts
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#858
I for one don't agree w/ the patch.

vrs: yay less micro!! since it starts out stronger! and speed doesn't help as much so not so much point in moving it to back since it prob won't get there anymore.

Racks: so terran can't bunker rush or reaper rush or rush in anything now....woot......
medivacs: i thought the point of making medics air and not ground like in sc1 was so they can move quickly.. :X'

zerg buildings: while making them more viable for 4v4, i thought the low health tech buildings encouraged sim city alot more since its not like you could wall with them or anything. also made u more aware of any drops/preventing/scouting them cause drops could ruin you really quickly
roach:woot! i'm a zerg player but really...roachs are now op since tehy can harass scvs longer and kill more scvs as a result, easier micro, better concave/more will hit after u move them up,

cooldowns: I guess its to lessen HT's feedback but HTs are barely used since storm is so weak compared to sc1 already so now its even less point in using them.
Life appears to me too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrongs." - Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 20:42:53
October 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#859
On October 15 2010 05:41 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 05:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
On October 15 2010 05:21 Gleen wrote:
oh... now thors in tvp

lets pratice carrier micro.


Thors actually own carriers, hard to believe.

I know because I personally used Carriers with +2 to counter 1/1 thors and the carriers did incredibly badly.

Thors do pathetic damage to anything non-light, and even more pathetic damage to anything with decent armor. There is no way in hell they remotely own carriers.


they kill all the interceptors.


On October 15 2010 05:41 Perscienter wrote:
You probably can't kite roaches with stalkers anymore.


anymore got more info on the roach vs stalker relation?

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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 14 2010 20:42 GMT
#860
yeah I've never had a Carrier vs. Thor matchup, but I'm finding it incredibly hard to believe that Thors do well against them, given how badly they suck against anything armored.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
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