EPTPatch 1.1.2 Notes - Page 43
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:21 Gleen wrote: oh... now thors in tvp lets pratice carrier micro. Thors actually own carriers, hard to believe. I know because I personally used Carriers with +2 to counter 1/1 thors and the carriers did incredibly badly. | ||
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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doktorFunken
United States41 Posts
I might be kidding, I might not be. Don't shoot me if whether or not you think I'm kidding jibes with your own personal beliefs. | ||
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teser
United States156 Posts
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phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:35 DragonDefonce wrote: What the hell is up with the voidray change? Aside from whether or not voidrays were op, now that its been nerfed to hell, no one is gonna use it. It went from 25dps to armored to 16dps to armored. Moreover, most of the dps lost came from the bonus against armored. And now, you remove energy on thors and corruptors? no feedback? really bliz? In addition, the reaper change is ridiculous. I'm a protoss player and I am against that change. Roach buff I'm ok with, but a fail patch in general. .6 attack speed makes this around 40 to around 25. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:37 Salv wrote: How much will the roach range increase affect roach vs hellions? I think it's a pretty big difference. Right now, you can force the T to retreat by sending your roaches, the bad thing is that they could be kited, but can they now? I think roaches will always get a hit in on them now. I'm not saying that's bad, I just mean is that the case? Hellions have range 5, but the time needed for them to restart after shooting should allow the first roachs to have a shot off. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:38 doktorFunken wrote: Now all they need to do is figure out a way to eliminate cannon rush cheese and I don't think I could come up with a single thing to complain about. Maybe a Forge should require a Gateway. I might be kidding, I might not be. Don't shoot me if whether or not you think I'm kidding jibes with your own personal beliefs. lol kind of obvious you are. but to be honest a gateway does require a pylon though. | ||
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doerit
Germany234 Posts
On the other hand I'd like to see a clear definition of the void ray, is it supposed to counter massive units? In this case they could remove the charged level and replace it with a constantly building charge on the target that will be lost when the target will be changed. The carrier is probably the most underused unit in the game, maybe if Blizzard makes changes to include the carrier in the game protoss would not rely on void rays so heavily. What I am trying to say is: Changing the damage output/building time/movement speed, etc. slightly just works when the unit has a place in the game. But imo the reaper is the most broken unit in the game at this point (followed by the void ray). | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:30 bigjenk wrote: And like 3 stimmed marines rape a void now. Not really? Uncharged the void is better off now, charged it's 20% less damage. Kinda a wash. It's against armored that it really got nerfed damage wise. Not at home right now can someone test how many stimmed marines take a void now and can queens 1v1 them now even charged? Any battle starting with uncharged rays is likely to actually be more in favor of them. While people will say "yeah but anyone half decent just charged them", there are plenty of cases of charge being lost and the T/Z player still dying horribly. In those cases voids just got stronger. So I'm dubious that they are now unviable. Again, the effect against non-armored (marines, queens, whatever), isn't very big. Your 3 marines will still get fried by a void no problemo. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:38 FabledIntegral wrote: Thors actually own carriers, hard to believe. I know because I personally used Carriers with +2 to counter 1/1 thors and the carriers did incredibly badly. Thors do pathetic damage to anything non-light, and even more pathetic damage to anything with decent armor. There is no way in hell they remotely own carriers. | ||
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Broodie
Canada832 Posts
add meh if youre gold or low plat lol broodie.558 | ||
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Minimi][
Germany43 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:15 Devlin wrote: Wrong. Banelings do 80 (base) damage to buildings. You still need 5 (5x80=400) banelings to destroy a depot, same as before. depots have 1 armor so banelings only do 79 dmg depots, therefore u need 6 banes to kill a depot | ||
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Perscienter
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Boundless
Canada588 Posts
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Azn_Christian
United States153 Posts
vrs: yay less micro!! since it starts out stronger! and speed doesn't help as much so not so much point in moving it to back since it prob won't get there anymore. Racks: so terran can't bunker rush or reaper rush or rush in anything now....woot...... medivacs: i thought the point of making medics air and not ground like in sc1 was so they can move quickly.. :X' zerg buildings: while making them more viable for 4v4, i thought the low health tech buildings encouraged sim city alot more since its not like you could wall with them or anything. also made u more aware of any drops/preventing/scouting them cause drops could ruin you really quickly roach:woot! i'm a zerg player but really...roachs are now op since tehy can harass scvs longer and kill more scvs as a result, easier micro, better concave/more will hit after u move them up, cooldowns: I guess its to lessen HT's feedback but HTs are barely used since storm is so weak compared to sc1 already so now its even less point in using them. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On October 15 2010 05:41 Yaotzin wrote: Thors do pathetic damage to anything non-light, and even more pathetic damage to anything with decent armor. There is no way in hell they remotely own carriers. they kill all the interceptors. On October 15 2010 05:41 Perscienter wrote: You probably can't kite roaches with stalkers anymore. anymore got more info on the roach vs stalker relation? | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
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