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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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On September 21 2012 00:16 marvellosity wrote: Bingo!! | ||
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Blazinghand
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marvellosity
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Blazinghand
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I'll prepare my popcorn. (for the record, marv is already winning methinks) | ||
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Blazinghand
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marvellosity
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I don't want a bitchfight, I want people to think about his play critically, which is why i'm bringing this to the thread. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Barbiero
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He was playing townie like up until a point in time. That was when he entered the thread, where he was sharing his reads. HiroPro made a good point on "town is a clusterfuck and he only threw new candidates" but I didn't think it mattered because Palmar is used to bring different stuff into the table, because he plays by himself a lot. I even would argue that it's normal for Palmar to be kinda bad on day 1 because that's how he lives past night 1 - or that was the case for some time at least, it's been a long time since I last played with him. However, if he does not step up his game drastically on day 2, I'm all into killing him. Day 2 is the day he shines. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:27 Zephirdd wrote: Ok let me give a bit of critical thinking. He was playing townie like up until a point in time. That was when he entered the thread, where he was sharing his reads. HiroPro made a good point on "town is a clusterfuck and he only threw new candidates" but I didn't think it mattered because Palmar is used to bring different stuff into the table, because he plays by himself a lot. I even would argue that it's normal for Palmar to be kinda bad on day 1 because that's how he lives past night 1 - or that was the case for some time at least, it's been a long time since I last played with him. However, if he does not step up his game drastically on day 2, I'm all into killing him. Day 2 is the day he shines. that's why I quoted that post from NMM3 earlier. Look at the explanations he gives for his reads. Actual paragraphs with thought out points on how things in the game have worked and related to each other. Look at how he can be held accountable for that post and how you can see his thought processes. Then look at the "lists" he creates when playing scum. Here's another: On June 13 2012 05:39 Palmar wrote: Can you stop textwalling? Radfield and Ace were much more fun. Also, in case I die, this is the list of town from towniest to scummiest. Radfield VisceraEyes Greymist Ace chaoser mrwiggles gonzaw BrownBear | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Still currently have mementoss as my top read. Still really want to know Bluelightz's feelings on mementoss. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Unfortunately I won't be in for the deadline, for now my top scum reads are Palmar and iamperfection. @iamperfection: On September 20 2012 22:57 iamperfection wrote: also at ange i want to you to explain more on your thought process at the deadline. What was going through your head when the claims came out. What was going on? I have you marked as a scum read that's what's going on. Why would someone give up his right to vote just to simply sheep another player? Especially sheeping someone you yourself called a terrible townie. There is no town motivatoin for that kind of play. Publicly stating to sheep your town read just gives you an excuse to be wrong with your vote because you were not responsible for it. And suddenly vote switching in the last minutes onto the seemingly scum prplhz whom you had not mentioned again after dismissing Blazinghand's case as being a weak meta case is just something I don't understand. Two possibilities: 1) You are town. You want to make sure prplhz gets lynched. But we already had the majority to lynch him. So why the last minute vote? We discussed prplhz a lot before the end of Day 1 and you did not give your stance on him. 2) You are scum. You wanted to get some town cred for jumping on "scum prplhz". Right now I am leaning to 2 as you still haven't given me a satisfying answer for your voting behaviour. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:16 marvellosity wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 21 2012 00:10 Blazinghand wrote: In terms of what we hold Palmar accountable for D1, it's "pushing his case poorly and defending prplhz not at all despite thinking he's town and prplhz being the biggest wagon" Bingo!! On September 19 2012 18:17 Palmar wrote: This prplhz lynch is not good btw, I don't think he's scum now. On September 19 2012 18:27 Palmar wrote: Because I don't think he's scum? On September 20 2012 00:15 Palmar wrote: Wtf is this shit, prplhz is not scum look at his big post after he started caring. On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote: Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses. On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote: Fuck it. I'm off for a bit. I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later. On September 19 2012 18:23 Ange777 wrote: I'll check marv's filter one more time. Meanwhile, tell me why you don't wanna lynch prplhz. On September 20 2012 05:22 Ange777 wrote: EBWODP: Oh and I am still waiting for an answer to this, I don't think I have seen a reply to it yet: AT NO TIME DID PALMAR WRITE: Any explanation at all while prplhz was on the chopping block On September 20 2012 06:03 ghost_403 wrote: prplhz, one of the Sisters in da Band, was kicked out of da Band. This alone should be enough to lynch Palmar. I don't see a town Palmar just leaving it at that. I see him hollering and screaming if someone is that big a town read for him and on the lynching block. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote: I don't even understand this game anymore. Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses. mementoss is probably not scum. marv and austinmcc both have a good chance of being scum, but I feel considerably better about marv. It's also very strange how hard it is to get any kind of a train rolling against marv. I've already explained why this guy is the one that needs to hang today. Can we consolidate there, please? So vote austin when he's Palmar's 2nd scumread and Palmar believes prplzh is obvious town, right? On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote: Fuck it. I'm off for a bit. [b]I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.[b] Nope. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Bluelightz has two substantial posts in his filter: Case on Mementoss ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=9#179 He states that Mementoss isn't contributing, then proceeds to quote like 10 of his posts. More importantly, this was all on day 1, where mementoss's activity levels were acceptable by any standard. Case on Prplzh ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=25#484 This is a really interesting case, because nowhere in the case does he say that Prplzh is "scummy" or is scum. He repeatedly mentions how certain aspects of prplzh's play upsets him ("ticks him off", yadda yadda), but it's not clear if he's even voting prplzh because he's scummy. It also seems somewhat of an "overkill" case. At that point in the game, prplzh was the clear leading vote candidate with plenty of cases out there against him. Making some gigantic summary post wanting to lynch prplzh is completely unnecessary and reads like an attempt to fake a contribution. In addition, he has zero interaction with his #1 scum read. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 21 2012 01:32 Hapahauli wrote: I'll retract on Mementoss for now, and I think Bluelightz is worth taking a look at. Bluelightz has two substantial posts in his filter: Case on Mementoss ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=9#179 He states that Mementoss isn't contributing, then proceeds to quote like 10 of his posts. More importantly, this was all on day 1, where mementoss's activity levels were acceptable by any standard. Case on Prplzh ----> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=25#484 This is a really interesting case, because nowhere in the case does he say that Prplzh is "scummy" or is scum. He repeatedly mentions how certain aspects of prplzh's play upsets him ("ticks him off", yadda yadda), but it's not clear if he's even voting prplzh because he's scummy. It also seems somewhat of an "overkill" case. At that point in the game, prplzh was the clear leading vote candidate with plenty of cases out there against him. Making some gigantic summary post wanting to lynch prplzh is completely unnecessary and reads like an attempt to fake a contribution. In addition, he has zero interaction with his #1 scum read. Your point on Palmar's vote or lack thereof is really strong, Hapa. On BL: yes, it's easy to do analyses on BL going "wtf" but you need to be able to explain how it's different from how he normally plays town :/ | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On September 21 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote: Your point on Palmar's vote or lack thereof is really strong, Hapa. On BL: yes, it's easy to do analyses on BL going "wtf" but you need to be able to explain how it's different from how he normally plays town :/ This | ||
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Hapahauli
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Worth noting that Buelightz has no town reads this game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 21 2012 01:37 Hapahauli wrote: Well actually, you had that quote in Normal Mini III about Bluelightz meta - he's obsessed with town when he's town, and scum when he's scum. Now I know you were scum that game, but I'm curious if you think that read is accurate? Worth noting that Buelightz has no town reads this game. That would be the most compelling evidence, I think. Even in GSL he voted a 'null' read on Day 1 because everyone else seemed town. | ||
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