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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 10:55 GMT
#761
Where is the pile of crap?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 10:56 GMT
#762
Or are you just saying that because it's inconvenient for you that I actually agree with prplhz's reads?
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 11:10 GMT
#763
On September 20 2012 19:56 Palmar wrote:
Or are you just saying that because it's inconvenient for you that I actually agree with prplhz's reads?


No, because you're a completely inconsequential threat to my lynch due to the fact you're playing like a brainless newb.

It's a pile of crap because as per usual you have given no reasoning behind anything, despite being absent and having had the time to do so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 20 2012 13:57 GMT
#764
@palmar
why dont you answer to marvs point he made here

On September 20 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
my problem with Palmar, actually, is that although his play has been similar in respects to NMM3, in others it has not.

Like, he's pursued me and ragequit and been an arse in a general townie way, but look at this:

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 19:05 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I have a lot of things to catch up on.

I have a theory that GM trolled me this game, and everyone rolled scum, that's how you guys seem to be playing anyway.

VisceraEyes is the key to this game. Early on I suspected him heavily of being scum, but his constant flip-flopping and random attacks, along with a surprisingly well thought out accusation of Lvdr made me rethink my stance on him, and at the moment I'm going to risk counting him among town. So now that I've put VisceraEyes in the town category, it's time to start thinking about how people connect to him, and have reacted to his presence.

I'd like to congratulate the scumteam though, there's not a single one of you completely obvious by now, which is strange.

Lvdr:

Lvdr does have a few weird things in his filter indeed:

On August 22 2012 11:46 Lvdr wrote:
@Palmar You've gone all silent on me. I have questions.

Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?

If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?


Recycling my questions is hardly relevant, especially since he was the one claiming the game was in "downtime". Which to any sane townie should mean that the heat needed to be turned on, instead of just accepting shitty play. This doesn't make him scum though, he might just have no idea how the game works.

Asking for an explanation of the random lynch strategy is dumb, but I've seen enough dumb people do it to not try to link it to him being scum.

I also hate the constant ##FOS bullshit, it's pointless, no one gives a fuck about what you suspect if you have nothing to act on it.

Lvdr has multiple things that make me think he might be scum. And the point VisceraEyes made about him assuming VE is town, is actually quite valid. The problem is that once again there's a chance Lvdr might just be a townie who assumes VE is town.


talismaniac:

Very little content. He's been completely non-commital throughout the game. There exists a connection between him and Lvdr, in the form of talismaniac sheeping VE immediately based on the "scumslip" that happened. This doesn't necessarily mean they cannot both be scum (lvdr and talis), but it makes it less likely.

talis also has an extremely large percentage of his posts focused somehow on VE, I'm not sure what to make of it.

If we do default to a lurker lynch, I think talis should be the one hanging, he's basically done nothing through the game.

Obvious:

This is the problem when play with new people, I have no idea how bad obvious is at mafia.

List of obvious's achievements this game:

1. talk like yoda for a bit
2. talk about policy lynches
3. post an analysis on kville, basically rehashing what had already been said
4. try to lynch me on dumb policy anyway.

Here's the problem. Obvious's play is completely fucking terrible. the question remains, is he scum because of it? He's basically throwing away any intention of actually trying to scumhunt by wanting to lynch me based on the fact that I want to randomly lynch a guy on day 1.

Now everyone knows by now that the random lynch has nothing to do with alignment, it's been suggested by townies and scum throughout tl mafia games, and the effort involved is simply typing "hey let's random lynch, ok guys?". It's a complete and utter null tell about someone's alignment.

What is interesting is that Obvious has completely neglected to look at my play beyond that notion. If you want to lynch someone, you have to look at what he has done in the game. Trying to lynch me is not scummy, per se, it's how he's trying to lynch me.

Can someone who's played with obvious before tell me just how bad he is? Like you have to be pretty fucking bad to think this kind of playing is valid, but I've lynched terrible townies before...

marv

Fuck you marv, if I had a gun I'd shoot you for being useless and terrible.

Shady

Having not played with him before and knowing nothing about the guy, I wrote him off as a pointless townie. Some people seem to be suggesting that he might be much more outspoken when he's town.

There's a link between shady and ve, it's very unlikely they're scum together, but seeing as I think VE is town, that's kind of redundant.

He might well be scum, for all I know, but not knowing his meta there's nothing glaringly obvious about his play at the moment.

Kville

Strange one, similar position to obivous. He came into the thread in the worst possible way, but I like his attitude after fucking up. There's no persistance on the marv vote, he's willing to reconsider his stances and such.

I already explained how I felt about him coming into the thread here:

On August 22 2012 22:01 Palmar wrote:
Kville it's not an unreasonable thing to do by marv to cast his vote on you, when at the time you had simply not posted in the thread.

While it doesn't absolve marv of being mafia, that vote says absolutely nothing about Marv's alignment, and you seem to have decided not to dig any further into his play in the game. In fact, any reasonable townie would realize that there's nothing about "being first" that increases marv's chances of being scum.

Why did you only consider him? You're not dumb enough to think the mafia team would decide to all vote randomly like that, are you? Why did you not even mention the other people going after you?



I'm going to roll the dice on town for this guy.





I'll probably write more and make a decision what I want to lynch

at the moment I'm leaning obvious.



Like genuine, constructive opinions on a number of players. Here we have "lol prplhz town you asses lol long post" and that's about it.


also at ange i want to you to explain more on your thought process at the deadline. What was going through your head when the claims came out.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 20 2012 14:31 GMT
#765
On September 20 2012 19:06 marvellosity wrote:
especially as we should have learnt SOMETHING from last game, Zeph.

Mementoss, saying "don't waste time on me" isn't a very productive thing to do. Tell us where you were leading up to deadline, and why that meant you could handily appear straight after?


Yeah. From the last game, you can infer he is town here. But then I remember nmm2 where he was mafia and they are the same :/

♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 14:50 GMT
#766
Let's play a fun game, it's called guess the alignment!

On July 17 2012 23:06 Palmar wrote:
layabout
Sloosh
Sandroba
Probulous
HiroPro
Foolishness
VisceraEyes
Bill Murray
Gonzaw
Meapak_Ziphh
Supersoft
austinmcc
Wherebugsgo
Katina
syllogism
GGQ
Blazinghand
Chezinu
Kurumi
rastaban
Mattchew
marvellosity
risk.nuke
Q-bert-Z
RebirthofLegend
Palmar
Zealos

Thank me later.


On September 18 2012 23:05 Palmar wrote:
ok I've caught up.

Will read more attentively later, some of you guys textwall like bosses. Here's my current idea of the thread.


I will deny!
iamperfection
Hapahauli
blazinghand
Palmar

Junglers
Zephirdd
Mementoss
bluelightz
prplhz
Ange777
mkfuba07

5 carries on your team
Marvellosity
HiroPro
austinmcc

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 20 2012 14:54 GMT
#767
from what game is the post above?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#768
If I tell you, it spoils the game!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 14:56 GMT
#769
Buereaucracy Mafia
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 14:56 GMT
#770
I remember because I was scum with Palm that game. I don't really have a comment on Marv's post at the moment though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#771
BH such a cheater :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 15:00 GMT
#772
Dude it takes like a couple minutes, tops, to find a quoted passage by a player anyways using the search function http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=thank me later&t=c&f=31&u=Palmar&gb=date&d=
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 15:06 GMT
#773
On April 30 2012 23:34 Palmar wrote:
This is like the first rule of day 1 mafia play, something I consider my area of expertise, make people accountable for their actions.



What do we have to hold Palmar accountable for in Day 1?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 15:10 GMT
#774
Well, I'm fairly sure Palmar actually opposed the prplhz wagon, since he was pushing to get you lynched, Marv. I'm disappointed in the quality and convincingness of his defense of prplhz and his case itself on you (though I definitely considered voting you). I don't usually see Palmar push wagons and fail, or put in so little effort.

Of course he doesn't seem to be on hand for questioning at the moment. Now that I'm up I'll reread D1 and drop down some thoughts. let me know if you got any questions for me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 15:10 GMT
#775
In terms of what we hold Palmar accountable for D1, it's "pushing his case poorly and defending prplhz not at all despite thinking he's town and prplhz being the biggest wagon"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 20 2012 15:11 GMT
#776
On September 21 2012 00:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, I'm fairly sure Palmar actually opposed the prplhz wagon, since he was pushing to get you lynched, Marv.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Scum have the information advantage remember..........................................................................................
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#777
you know what iamperfection I'm going to be uncharacteristically civil with you.

try reading the rest of the post and the post after it. Basically, If Palmar had been putting in full Palmar effort in the case, it'd be a town-tell. Since his case and his defense of prplhz are not, it is not.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
September 20 2012 15:14 GMT
#778
But if you display this level of verbal ineptitude in the future, rest assured that, as usual, I will pull no punches. You're still on my list buddy.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 20 2012 15:15 GMT
#779
On September 21 2012 00:13 Blazinghand wrote:
you know what iamperfection I'm going to be uncharacteristically civil with you.

try reading the rest of the post and the post after it. Basically, If Palmar had been putting in full Palmar effort in the case, it'd be a town-tell. Since his case and his defense of prplhz are not, it is not.

So why dont you just straight up say what you think of palmar you seem to have played a lot of games with him stop being a tease and just tell us.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 15:16 GMT
#780
On September 21 2012 00:10 Blazinghand wrote:
In terms of what we hold Palmar accountable for D1, it's "pushing his case poorly and defending prplhz not at all despite thinking he's town and prplhz being the biggest wagon"


Bingo!!

On September 19 2012 18:17 Palmar wrote:
This prplhz lynch is not good btw, I don't think he's scum now.


On September 19 2012 18:27 Palmar wrote:
Because I don't think he's scum?


On September 20 2012 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Wtf is this shit, prplhz is not scum look at his big post after he started caring.


On September 20 2012 04:21 Palmar wrote:

Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses.



On September 20 2012 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it. I'm off for a bit.

I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.


On September 19 2012 18:23 Ange777 wrote:
I'll check marv's filter one more time. Meanwhile, tell me why you don't wanna lynch prplhz.


On September 20 2012 05:22 Ange777 wrote:
EBWODP: Oh and I am still waiting for an answer to this, I don't think I have seen a reply to it yet:

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 20:28 Ange777 wrote:
On September 19 2012 06:54 prplhz wrote:
I have some small reservations with the marvellosity lynch that I can tell you about later but for now he's my top candidate.


So when is it "later"? How do you want to convince us into lynching your allegedly top scum read when you yourself have reservations you are not willing to share with us?



On September 20 2012 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Get off my Hapa bro's case.

Wtf is this shit, prplhz is not scum look at his big post after he started caring.


why does that make him town?


AT NO TIME DID PALMAR WRITE:

Any explanation at all while prplhz was on the chopping block


On September 20 2012 06:03 ghost_403 wrote:

prplhz, one of the Sisters in da Band, was kicked out of da Band.



[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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