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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:38 GMT
#781
On September 06 2012 01:47 Mattchew wrote:
and BM.. I repeat, BM is def town!

some like it hot, hot, hot
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 05 2012 22:38 GMT
#782
On September 06 2012 07:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:34 imallinson wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:29 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:27 imallinson wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.

THANK YOU.
Go read Gravan's filter, and tell me if you don't find hapa coaching him?
2nd person I've caught him coaching that looks like scum with him (Doyouhas is the other)

I don't really like coaching in this thread as an argument for a connection between two scum. I figure if scum has an ounce of sense they will do all their coaching elsewhere. It's possible Hapa is coaching his scum buddies but it's certainly not enough to push for his lynch.

not all scum are active in the quicktime, bro

Like I said it's certainly possible but not enough to push a lynch for. Anyway Gravan is a much better target for a lynch right now.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:38 GMT
#783
YO MONZ LET US TAKE A LOAD OFF AND DANCE TO A COOL ISLAND SONG
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:39 GMT
#784
mr. all in, son - hi-five!
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 05 2012 22:40 GMT
#785
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:40 GMT
#786
On September 06 2012 07:38 Ottoxlol wrote:
I tried helping town by making a discussion, Hapa and Toad tried to silence it. They did lied, ignored half of a post to make me look stupid etc. Shoot them.

dude, at this point... idk
you're like the guy in a straight jacket that sees more people in the room
i've definitely been there as town... hard for me to get a read on you at this point... why don't you just sheep my votes all game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:41 GMT
#787
On September 06 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.

i wanna hit that
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 05 2012 22:42 GMT
#788
On September 06 2012 07:41 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.

i wanna hit that

if you're a medic you have my permission to hit me all night long
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:42 GMT
#789
Here we go, I at least need an answer from BC here. I'm probably dead tonight so I gotta post what I can. If mafia keeps me alive to lynch me later, they're dumb.

BloodyC0bbler - Changes his opinion of m and then lies about it. . First accuses me of being Mattchew's scumbuddy, then later claims he knew I was town all along and would have done the same thing. When he first claimed Mattchew was lying, he was belligerent toward other townies and even claimed I was Mattchew's scumbuddy.

As such you have defended a confirmed liar and are scum with him.


One question on my mind was "why is it that BC knew Mattchew was lying before anyone else?" e also used his first post to call him out. Nothing before that. Scum would of course be the first people expected to ask any role/setup questions along with blues, but blues usually only ask about their own roles. If it weren't for the inconsistency in his perception of my alignment (softly accusing me, unnecessary if he is town who thinks i'm town, then goes to "yeah I knew you were town from the beginning") I would assume he was a tracker. If he's a tracker, I've just outed him to the scum now but he's going to be hit target #1 regardless so it doesn't really matter tbh.

I just want BC to answer to this. We know how he got the information, it seems an awfully strange question to ask before posting unless you saw his claim before you entered the thread and wanted to make sure. But surely you'd have something else to comment on? If it's a bus, it's a good bus.

So consider that just pressure. I don't think BC or anyone is cleared by this flip. I've seen scum do buses like this and in fact I've orchestrated them myself. If mafia planned on bussing Mattchew previously it makes sense that BC's first post would be a call out. I really just want BC to answer about that inconsistency with regards to my alignment.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 05 2012 22:42 GMT
#790
On September 06 2012 07:29 BlackMamba24 wrote:
ooh and if BC is scum so is Z-BoSoN imo


Wasn't gonna bother, but please, enlighten me. Is this just gut feeling or do you have any specific reasons?

Anyways, regarding him, why exactly did he absolutely know that NN's aren't self-aware? This might have been answered or is obvious but I can't find anything.

For now, my vote goes to Oxtrott.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 05 2012 22:42 GMT
#791
Everyone shut up about Ottoxlol and let him cool down. There are much better targets, i.e. people who lurked the whole time after dropping their singular vote. I.e. DYH. And that maverick guy comes to mind.

Fact is (most likely) that scum got caught with their pants down and panicked. You can probably pick off some scum from the voting frenzy after Palmar's announcement. Then it would be incredibly uncomfortable to start talking about scum buddy Mattchew, so you do next best thing, which is lurk.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 05 2012 22:47 GMT
#792
On September 06 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.

Why on earth do you think mafia would want to hit you?
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 05 2012 22:50 GMT
#793
K.
Medics on Toad and BC and BM.
Vigi kill in the pool of scummy people/ scummylurkers.
Ex: Ottox, Maverick, Do you has.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 05 2012 22:51 GMT
#794
On September 06 2012 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.

Why on earth do you think mafia would want to hit you?


Towny vets.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:51 GMT
#795
You'll find most of the scum team in these three groups.

1. People who went actively or softly against the Mattchew lynch: Ottoxlol/Gravan

2. People who came in after Palmar confirmed it and made fluff posts

3. At least one active person, probably Bill Murray. He's seemed to focus a lot on people like MiltonKram/Hapahauli neither of whom are scummy at all and meanwhile his rhetoric/language seems very much an attempt to buddy up with me or other people.

"Well that settles it...##Vote: Mattchew /disappear from thread"

Ottoxlol is scum. If he isn't, he needs to read Ver's guide 100 times before he signs up for another game. He didn't present an alternate target. His only clear motivation was to defend Mattchew NOT to lynch scum. He says Hapa and Toad tried to silence him and lied, but he never pushed either of them as a lynch target. Worthless vote on Toad who isn't even remotely scummy. Vig's absolutely hit this guy tonight.

This is the only time you're gonna get general reads because I could die tonight. Town players, serious scumhunters, take another look at sloOsh and Shady Sands. sloOsh was absent for the majority of the thread, asking a lot of questions in the beginning (not alignment indicative in and of itself, scum do it for cred town do it to pressure) and being very very invested in everyones opinions, disappearing when mattchew is 100% getting lynched, then pops up at night "Hey guys who do we kill next?" That's scum behavior through and through.

Shady Sands was far more FARRRR more active in Death Note Mafia. I think Assassins should hit both of these targets tonight because I believe them to be either black or red.

If you're unsure if someone is scum/assassin but have good reason to think they are scum, broadcast their case as an assassin so that assassins will hit the scum at night and help us win faster. I'm gonna read over Bill Murray's filter a couple times and doublecheck everything since I don't want to make the same mistake I made with GoodKarma again and if something comes of it, I will post a case just before the day comes. Or before I go to bed.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 05 2012 22:53 GMT
#796
On September 06 2012 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Bam. Watcher on people like BC and me please.

Mafia will want to hit that.

Why on earth do you think mafia would want to hit you?

1) I'm a vet and like BM just said it himself:
On September 06 2012 07:03 Bill Murray wrote:
[...]

Scum could easily just be playing the lurker game this game, but if that's the case, let 'em sit back while players like BC and Toad get confirmed.

I don't agree with him calling me #2 guy in here (he doesn't but that's basicly what he's saying) but I'm quite decent imo. At the same time the other vets besides BC we've got are not that good looking at all.

2) Do you think anyone besides Ottox would possibly come up with some weird reasoning for me being mafia? I doubt it. Mafia has to shoot people like BC and me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:54 GMT
#797
sloOsh says people who dropped a vote and then lurked are scum. That's exactly what he did. Ottoxlol is indefensible. Why are people still talking about Maverick? My attack on him was a misunderstanding, pay attention.
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#798
and why is sloOsh parroting Bill Murray's reads when Bill Murray's reads are incomprehensibly bad
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 22:57:34
September 05 2012 22:57 GMT
#799
Guys, quick note - as 4 of us is a lot, you only need to send in night actions to Palmar and Quatol. Ta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2012 22:59 GMT
#800
@ BM24

Agree with everything except for MiltonKram.


3. At least one active person, probably Bill Murray. He's seemed to focus a lot on people like MiltonKram/Hapahauli neither of whom are scummy at all and meanwhile his rhetoric/language seems very much an attempt to buddy up with me or other people.


I understand if you have more of a null read on him than I do, but "not scummy at all" seems ridiculous, given his bad D1 case and the fact that he fits "category 2" pretty well:

2. People who came in after Palmar confirmed it and made fluff posts


Milton has been lurking and hasn't contributed at all since he dropped his case on me - he only popped in once to question BillMurray.
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