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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 05 2012 22:23 GMT
#761
On September 06 2012 07:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
Uh, bill, aren't you forgetting someone? For someone who said:

Show nested quote +
I disagree with your disagreeing. HE NEEDS TO DIE 100%.


You sure quickly forgot him when you were making your little list...

Even if Ottox isn't scum (I'm pretty sure he is) he needs to die, preferably night 1.
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BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:23 GMT
#762
btw just so all the newbies know, mattchew flipping scum in no way indicates BC's alignment
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 05 2012 22:25 GMT
#763
On September 06 2012 07:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
@austin
Show nested quote +
Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was

No he didn't... he still thinks Toad is scum and still insists that matt is not.

he's saying something along the lines of:
1) Ottox thought he can defend Matt
2) Ottox realized that's not going to work
3) A buddy of his told him "dude you can't just back down like nothing happened. You've got to roll with it now"
4) That's the reason he's trolling like this.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 05 2012 22:25 GMT
#764
On September 06 2012 06:43 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 21:19 Forumite wrote:

On September 05 2012 14:38 Bill Murray wrote:
No, Forumite. I don't see how you get that whatsoever. I see you as being scum with Mattchew for not jumping on voting him there.
Isn´t that a different accusation? Before you accuse me of trying to get Matt to claim (meaning that you thought I was scum and Matt town), and now you say I´m scum together with Matt. To answer why I didn´t vote Matt early, at the time I was weighing on what Matt was and engaged him in conversation to get a better read, but until Palmar confirmed how Nosy Neighbors works, there wasn´t enough on Matt for me to throw down a vote. Matt was suspicious for claiming NN, but there were no proof that he was really lying at the time. Why should I vote someone who claims a town role unless I have a good reason to think he´s lying?

you're jumping to conclusions
you could be coaching him into a tracker claim as his scumbuddy (what i thought) because he fucked up, and you were trying to salvage the situation. You're playing dumb, here, which is another scum indicator.

I understand engaging in conversation to get a better read of the situation, but to me it felt like you weren't sure whether or not to bus him.

How did you not know how nosy neighbors worked? We've used this setup before.

Proof he was lying? see my last statement
.... he was fucking lying.
I was trying to figure out if there was any benefit at all of him claiming NN. I was asking questions to understand his motivation, because I was unsure if he was a bad townie or a gambling scum, because I was trying to figure out if I was going to vote him or not. Of course it looked like I was unsure wether to vote him or not, I was!

And no, I didn´t know how NN worked until Palmar cleared it up. I rarely read other games and so didn´t know how this setup played out the last time. I thought it was more likely that they were not selfaware, but there was no proof of that, even the way it worked in another game doesn´t mean this game must work the same way.

Was there proof of Matt lying before Palmar posted? Where?
:3
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 05 2012 22:27 GMT
#765
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
September 05 2012 22:27 GMT
#766
On September 06 2012 07:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
@austin
Show nested quote +
Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was

No he didn't... he still thinks Toad is scum and still insists that matt is not.


By logic it has more chance that he is blue or black and everyone throws this out because some scum leading the thread. Toad tried if he can make me get off his mates, he failed. Its obvious that even if Matt's scm, scum is the only who doesnt want us to discuss it.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:28 GMT
#767
On September 06 2012 07:23 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:20 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
Uh, bill, aren't you forgetting someone? For someone who said:

I disagree with your disagreeing. HE NEEDS TO DIE 100%.


You sure quickly forgot him when you were making your little list...

mattchew is on the top of my list to die. you're confused.

No you
That quote was about oxtrot. If you don't remember, or if you misinterpreted it, please read again.

well i feel like ottoxlol is being a fool
theres my stance on him
take it and run, son

On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.

yeah youre on my scum list
so is gravan
you openly coached him
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BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:28 GMT
#768
im making a wild guess that mattchew is assassin and bloodycobbler/gravan are both scum just so that if it actually happens that way later i look really smart and cool

i figure BC is probably mafia target #1 or #2 if he actually is town so it shouldn't matter if i say he's pretty much guaranteed to be either scum or a tracker
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:29 GMT
#769
On September 06 2012 07:27 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.

THANK YOU.
Go read Gravan's filter, and tell me if you don't find hapa coaching him?
2nd person I've caught him coaching that looks like scum with him (Doyouhas is the other)
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
September 05 2012 22:29 GMT
#770
ooh and if BC is scum so is Z-BoSoN imo
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 05 2012 22:30 GMT
#771
Silence please children
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2012 22:30 GMT
#772
On September 06 2012 07:27 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.


I agree his logic is terribad (he's voting for an assassin, not mafia). However, I really think that logic can come from a bad player (given his low postcount). I also think his 'lurkiness' doesn't determine his alignment. He doesn't have many posts on the forum, and short of him being a smurf, I've seen maybe newbies do that.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 05 2012 22:34 GMT
#773
On September 06 2012 07:29 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:27 imallinson wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.

THANK YOU.
Go read Gravan's filter, and tell me if you don't find hapa coaching him?
2nd person I've caught him coaching that looks like scum with him (Doyouhas is the other)

I don't really like coaching in this thread as an argument for a connection between two scum. I figure if scum has an ounce of sense they will do all their coaching elsewhere. It's possible Hapa is coaching his scum buddies but it's certainly not enough to push for his lynch.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 22:58:23
September 05 2012 22:34 GMT
#774
Night 1

[image loading]


Mattchew was running full pelt away from everyone alive in the universe. He wondered how it had got to this.

Then he remembered he had accidentally hit "Send to All" on that blasted email with the Elephant midget Justin Bieber porn attached, and now they all wanted him to die. Oops.

Mattchew, mafia Goon, was lynched!




It is now Night 1. You have about 23.5 hours to get all your night actions into Palmar and Quatol. If it just goes to Palmar, it might not happen xD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#775
Forumite's defense is really good. He's off my scumlist.

I just filtered mav. TBH, maverick is looking more like town.
i mean he's openly defending himself vs me and Dr.H
Seems really inactive, however, so I'm not calling off a potential vig shot there... *looks at austin*
Though, I'd still rather someone shoot Gravan, at this point.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#776
Cool. I think now is a good time for me to meander back into the thread and talk about good vig / lynch targets.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#777
@ Ottoxlol - who do you think is mafia now?

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:36 GMT
#778
On September 06 2012 07:34 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:29 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:27 imallinson wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.


Null. Deal with it.

His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him.


I'd say Gravan looks real scummy right now. He attempted the same thing as Ottox, defending Matt by saying he was probably an assassin, but much more quietly and backed away as soon as he realised it was a bad idea. If anything that looks more scummy than Ottox at the moment.

THANK YOU.
Go read Gravan's filter, and tell me if you don't find hapa coaching him?
2nd person I've caught him coaching that looks like scum with him (Doyouhas is the other)

I don't really like coaching in this thread as an argument for a connection between two scum. I figure if scum has an ounce of sense they will do all their coaching elsewhere. It's possible Hapa is coaching his scum buddies but it's certainly not enough to push for his lynch.

not all scum are active in the quicktime, bro
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 05 2012 22:36 GMT
#779
On September 06 2012 07:35 slOosh wrote:
Cool. I think now is a good time for me to meander back into the thread and talk about good vig / lynch targets.

here, here!
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
September 05 2012 22:38 GMT
#780
I tried helping town by making a discussion, Hapa and Toad tried to silence it. They did lied, ignored half of a post to make me look stupid etc. Shoot them.
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