TL Mafia LVII - Page 38

On September 05 2012 05:58 Shady Sands wrote:

I don't get this, please explain

On September 05 2012 06:00 Shady Sands wrote:
Quite busy and at work--can someone give me a quick summary of stances on the whole mattchew clusterfuck? (eg who pressured who, and when)

On September 06 2012 07:07 Hapahauli wrote:


I think that's a bad way to approach the question, since a lot of it depends on individual playstyle and context as opposed to "likelihood."

Picking fights alone isn't mafia or town - Toadsstern was picking fights early in the game, but that was more to generate discussion in my opinion. In the case of Ottoxlol, he's picking fights, not to generate discussion, but to be generally trolly and avoid pursuing his scumreads.

On September 06 2012 07:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Wait. What the hell happened to Shady anyway? He's usually much more involved in the thread as town, and now that Normal Mini III is over, he should have the time to play.

On September 06 2012 07:12 Bill Murray wrote:

you're not implying, but outright saying he has scumreads
wouldn't, he as scum, have a scumlist as opposed to scumreads?
Sorry if you consider this semantics

On September 06 2012 07:13 Bill Murray wrote:

um... why are you parroting me? you're scum on my list again just for this post
...

On September 06 2012 07:03 Bill Murray wrote:
Ottox you care to make a top 3 scumread like I have? sorry to say you need vigged, but it'd be better if you would stop posting, or actually.. you know... do some work by reading filters and making logical cases ...wow this looks like coaching. I see... I see... maybe I should ease up on my suspicion of Forumite.

Scum could easily just be playing the lurker game this game, but if that's the case, let 'em sit back while players like BC and Toad get confirmed.

On September 06 2012 07:17 Hapahauli wrote:


Says the guy who parroted MiltonKram's case on me?

So from that list, you don't see Ottoxlol as suspicious. Why not?

On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why?

I disagree with your disagreeing. HE NEEDS TO DIE 100%.

On September 06 2012 07:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
Uh, bill, aren't you forgetting someone? For someone who said:



You sure quickly forgot him when you were making your little list...

On September 06 2012 07:18 austinmcc wrote:
Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains.

It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this.

Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:

• Matt got caught
• Ottoxlol tried to save him, without realizing how bad an idea it was
• Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was
• A decent scum player told him right after he got caught looking very odd that he couldn't back off his defense, because then he'd look even scummier
• So he went full bore nuts, and that's why he won't listen to anyone or anything

It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this.

Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was

On September 06 2012 07:20 Bill Murray wrote:

mattchew is on the top of my list to die. you're confused.

On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head.