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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Gladly. Forumite is ready to accept the claim if the town does, but he is leaving himself wiggleroom to bus. it is a tell in that he even said "WHY DID YOU DO THIS?" he's mad matt did it. Why would he have reason to be mad if they're not scum together? The fact you're defending forumite for this by questioning me makes you look bad Shady Sands. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 05 2012 06:00 Shady Sands wrote: Quite busy and at work--can someone give me a quick summary of stances on the whole mattchew clusterfuck? (eg who pressured who, and when) wow, check this, too this kid is definitely fishing im going to be voting him tomorrow | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:07 Hapahauli wrote: I think that's a bad way to approach the question, since a lot of it depends on individual playstyle and context as opposed to "likelihood." Picking fights alone isn't mafia or town - Toadsstern was picking fights early in the game, but that was more to generate discussion in my opinion. In the case of Ottoxlol, he's picking fights, not to generate discussion, but to be generally trolly and avoid pursuing his scumreads. you're not implying, but outright saying he has scumreads wouldn't, he as scum, have a scumlist as opposed to scumreads? Sorry if you consider this semantics | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:11 Hapahauli wrote: Wait. What the hell happened to Shady anyway? He's usually much more involved in the thread as town, and now that Normal Mini III is over, he should have the time to play. um... why are you parroting me? you're scum on my list again just for this post Mattchew ShadySands Doyouhas Forumite Hapahauli MiltonKram | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
bottom 4 are more meh not saying i'm suspicious of BC - this looks like his town game - but he is a good actor. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:12 Bill Murray wrote: you're not implying, but outright saying he has scumreads wouldn't, he as scum, have a scumlist as opposed to scumreads? Sorry if you consider this semantics I think it's just semantics. Mafia and Town usually have have "scumreads" - the difference lies in sincerity. But he does outright have "scumreads" in the thread. He has a little-explained vote on Toadsstern and an FOS on me that he pretty much never pursued and never retracted. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:13 Bill Murray wrote: um... why are you parroting me? you're scum on my list again just for this post ... Says the guy who parroted MiltonKram's case on me? So from that list, you don't see Ottoxlol as suspicious. Why not? | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:03 Bill Murray wrote: Ottox you care to make a top 3 scumread like I have? sorry to say you need vigged, but it'd be better if you would stop posting, or actually.. you know... do some work by reading filters and making logical cases ...wow this looks like coaching. I see... I see... maybe I should ease up on my suspicion of Forumite. Scum could easily just be playing the lurker game this game, but if that's the case, let 'em sit back while players like BC and Toad get confirmed. Toad is scum. Hapahauli confirmed my suspicions by his last post, he's purposely trying to skew the discussion. I think these two are defending their mates by not letting the Matt discussion go on -> the other 2 possibly are lurkers who voted on Matt with no real content. imallinson Z-BosoN Shady Sands DarthPunk ShiaoPi BlackMamba24 goodkarma all voted Matt after Palmar's announcment and provide little to no reasoning. Bad town or scum can easily be among them | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:17 Hapahauli wrote: Says the guy who parroted MiltonKram's case on me? So from that list, you don't see Ottoxlol as suspicious. Why not? I didn't parrot anything. I said "whoah, that's coaching" Answer my question. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:06 Bill Murray wrote: Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains.Austinmcc, what is your read on the Ottoxlol situation? His theories are over the top, right? What does that show about his alignment? Why? It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this. Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:
It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I disagree with your disagreeing. HE NEEDS TO DIE 100%. You sure quickly forgot him when you were making your little list... | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:19 Z-BosoN wrote: Uh, bill, aren't you forgetting someone? For someone who said: You sure quickly forgot him when you were making your little list... mattchew is on the top of my list to die. you're confused. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:18 austinmcc wrote: Looking through his profile, I see his only other game was LIII. So he's at least played, although not with me. But he knows that some of the people in this game played that game, he played with them, he knows they are competent individuals with functioning brains. It's the first time I've ever seen someone cling to something absolutely wrong in this manner. I have posted paranoid rants in two games, stuck by them for a while as possibilities, gotten upset if people wouldn't consider them as possibilities, but I didn't get like this. Right now (and if Matt flips scum I will be more certain of the read) I can't help but read the whole thing like this:
It doesn't feel like he's just obtuse. At some point he'd get the message. It feels like he's clinging to this. Do me a favor, and go read Gravan's filter as if he were a scum idiot | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Ottoxlol shortly realized how bad an idea it was No he didn't... he still thinks Toad is scum and still insists that matt is not. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
ffs, just because claiming miller is a bad move as scum doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. it's a bad move regardless of his role so you can't really justify it better by town or black alignment. there are other factors that others have pointed out, mainly his complete lack of defense and implicit guilt when BC first accused him stop arguing with ottox because if that doesn't answer the basic question of "why people are voting for him" then he's belligerent, has really high standards or is actually dumb enough to believe no one ever makes misplays | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:20 Bill Murray wrote: mattchew is on the top of my list to die. you're confused. No you That quote was about oxtrot. If you don't remember, or if you misinterpreted it, please read again. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote: Also, Hapahauli, what is your read on Gravan? Scum or town? I don't want you using the word Null. Pick one. Scum or town? Consider yourself having a Gun to your head. Null. Deal with it. His posts/logic right now could come from either mafia or bad-townie. I don't have enough information to make a decision since hasn't posted much. Fortunately we have 48 hours to make a read on him. | ||
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