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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:03 drazak wrote: Haha, I was gonna do the same thing for his way of asking me, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to be the first vote. ##Vote DarthPunk Furthermore. You know who is likely to jump on a weak bandwagon with little to no reasoning? Yeah. | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
@iamperfection As far as what makes me tick? Not sure what you want me to say, I'm a fairly inexperience forum mafia player, I'd like to think I'm not that bad but I'm still pretty nervous about certain things. I watched the last gsl game in despair because of how inactive it was, so I'm trying to be more active than I've ever been. Best flavor of mafia games (IMO) with a gerrible terrible game 2 of the series. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:14 drazak wrote: Why would scum be afraid of casting a vote? If voting and being active is "town" then casting votes would be the most "town" thing you could do. Nervous town are far more likely to not want to early vote because they might not be sure if it makes them look mafia or not. I'm nervous town. @iamperfection As far as what makes me tick? Not sure what you want me to say, I'm a fairly inexperience forum mafia player, I'd like to think I'm not that bad but I'm still pretty nervous about certain things. I watched the last gsl game in despair because of how inactive it was, so I'm trying to be more active than I've ever been. Best flavor of mafia games (IMO) with a gerrible terrible game 2 of the series. why would a townie think someone was so scummy that they wished to vote for that person and not mention it at all until they could jump on someone else's bandwagon whilst saying 'yeah I thought that all along' Also. Your entire defense was WIFOM. | ||
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drazak
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:25 drazak wrote: Just giving my thought process on it, while it may not be WIFOM, it's how I thought of it after the fact (and why I was hesitating on voting in the first place). I don't think Mafia have any need to bandwagon votes in an instant lynch game, could be wrong, but it seems somewhat ineffective as nobody will hammer it if there isn't sufficient reason, and if mafia does hammer it it's going to make them look pretty scummy. Voting also causes conversation, which mafia is likely to be somewhat adverse to for having less chance to scumslip. Just my thoughts on how it works with this scenario, obviously mafia have to make some votes. So. Did you vote for me because you think I am scum? or did you vote for me to promote discussion etc? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:36 Hapahauli wrote: Oh btw, anyone here know anything about vaderseven? I think he's BH's friend, but I've never played a game with him. Nope. He and drazak are the players I know nothing about. | ||
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DarthPunk
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote: why would a townie think someone was so scummy that they wished to vote for that person and not mention it at all until they could jump on someone else's bandwagon whilst saying 'yeah I thought that all along' Also. Your entire defense was WIFOM. You sure like throwing the word WIFOM at people but using it yourself when it benefits you :o Also, Hi people! | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On October 20 2012 11:42 vaderseven wrote: Sup what ya want to knows bout mes? Any experience playing mafia beyond GSL I? Also, describe yourself so we may form a scumhunting team of super-friends! Also also, respond to mundane policy talk plz: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=2#25 That goes for you too Kei =D | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I had hoped to take a break from mafia, as last game totally destroyed me, but I could not refuse such a heart-warming invitation from mr. Blazinghand. I will firstly say that I will be a bit less active this game, as an attempt to balance out real life and this game, something in which I fail to do and feel strongly about trying. The game started rather abruptly, and I had hoped I could have said this earlier so as to not be confused with "scum trying to set up an excuse". I assure you all, however, that I will try my very best in the daily time I have reserved to play the game, whether as town or scum :D That being said, let's get down to business. The insta-lynch mechanic The last thing we want is an abrupt, pre-meditated lynch. This is bad for town, because the ultimate decision will ride in the hands of the few, possibly leaving the victim with zero chance of defending itself. This supports personal motivation. As town we should strive for a discussed and thought-out lynch, leaving almost no doubts on the motivation for the lynch. So I propose this system:
I think this would be helpful because it avoids the "hammer vote" and stimulates a more discussed and reasoned lynch. It's the best I could think of atm in order to avoid confusion and bad decisions. A bit of a complication to the regular game, but worth it, in my opinion. Regarding the votes on DarthPunk At the moment I'm viewing these as "spark discussion"? Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, if this isn't the case. Scum don't plan on asking people if they are blues so they tell them. To me this is a null-tell. It worries me how it was enough to pull out two votes, in a game such a fragile as this. While this: On October 20 2012 09:49 drazak wrote: I can't imagine someone in this game giving a truly awful hammer vote, would probably HAVE to be extreme circumstances. Is a plausible line of thinking, it is also a risky. A hammer vote will inevitably be essential, and we should strive to not use the "omg omg he hammered a townie, he's scum!" argument. @Drazak Why did you feel the need to vote for DP after iamperfection? If it was merely an attempt to promote discussion, then why didn't you do it beforehand? The fact that you said it after IAMP in such a manner tells me that you actually mean what you said. I find this highly suspicious, as someone hoping to stimulate discussion would have merely voted. Please explain yourself, as it seems you genuinely find DP scum. I don't buy this: On October 20 2012 10:05 drazak wrote: Well, I kind of thought it was stupid, but yeah, it starts conversation and forces him to reply. Seemed like he was replying pretty well on his own though so I was gonna leave it, but the connection seems to have gone dead. Given your actions. ##FOS drazak | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 20 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: Any experience playing mafia beyond GSL I? Also, describe yourself so we may form a scumhunting team of super-friends! Also also, respond to mundane policy talk plz: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=2#25 That goes for you too Kei =D There's nothing to respond to. Common sense should tell you that if someone makes a dumb hammer that you should look into them. I don't know why you felt the need to specifically talk about it. Also, its not like there's a specific metric for how "dumb" a hammer is anyways. Its just a judgment call by everyone in the game. If that time comes, we can discuss it then. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On October 20 2012 11:45 Keirathi wrote: You sure like throwing the word WIFOM at people but using it yourself when it benefits you :o Also, Hi people! Yep. Also Hi Keir <3 | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On October 20 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: Any experience playing mafia beyond GSL I? Also, describe yourself so we may form a scumhunting team of super-friends! Also also, respond to mundane policy talk plz: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=2#25 That goes for you too Kei =D I have played over 50 forum games of mafia over the past 10 years... on SomethingAwful.net, TL, solidstatesquad, aaroninjapan, ddrstl, and a few other places. I am pretty much the best mafia player to ever walk the planet minus my efforts in GSL I. Policy lynch for a hammer is so situational I don't understand why you would think its a good call from the get go to just declare it. I think a better idea is to make it clear that if you hammer someone you WILL be held responsible for doing so. A hammer is NOT just some other random vote. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On TL, I have rolled scum 3 times. Two games ended in a draw. One game ended as a 3rd party Cult Victory (with me as a recruited cultist). That means I have the weirdness of having been scum 3 times, never having lost as scum, and never having won as scum. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On October 20 2012 10:09 DarthPunk wrote: Every scum is going to claim green. If I ask role instead of alignment he can't fake claim later. Really you stand by that? You don't care about the alignment someone claims (and why should you at this stage of day 1, it would be joke posts at best)... and you want to peg someone on either claiming their role or lieing about in thread. When asked to explain it you don't fall back on 'jokepost lol' and instead give us this line about setting someone up to be caught in a lie? I r confused. Thats like too scummy in a bad way to be possibly true. I have to write it off as just stupid. | ||
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vaderseven
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drazak
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