EPTOn October 26 2012 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
says the guy who got lynched when he last claimed xD
says the guy who got lynched when he last claimed xD
He didn't get lynched in Aperture 2 after that ridiculously convenient claim!
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
He didn't get lynched in Aperture 2 after that ridiculously convenient claim! | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:52 marvellosity wrote: says the guy who got lynched when he last claimed xD Yeeeeeeeeeah. I think in part because claiming still some big deal in my head, made a production out of it (EVEN THOUGH IT TOTALLY MADE SENSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE) But the time BEFORE that claim I had my awesome fake-claim. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:53 Keirathi wrote: He didn't get lynched in Aperture 2 after that ridiculously convenient claim! You say "ridiculously convenient"; I say "convincingly ridiculous" | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:54 austinmcc wrote: You say "ridiculously convenient"; I say "convincingly ridiculous" Maybe for some people :p | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:54 austinmcc wrote: You say "ridiculously convenient"; I say "convincingly ridiculous" Your Aperature fake claim was my favourite. By far. Also your lynch in Looney was dumb, I don't think you looked all that scummy and with the claim it became pretty obvious what was going on. Play blue like green. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:58 marvellosity wrote: oh god that claim cracked me up. It was certainly ridiculous. Not sure about the convincing :p Gotta have dat "Why would I be given such a stupid fakeclaim?" argument to fall back on. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 26 2012 05:04 austinmcc wrote: Gotta have dat "Why would I be given such a stupid fakeclaim?" argument to fall back on. Which made no sense in the context of that game. No one else had a stupid claim, so yours felt even more out of place  | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
I don't know how you find that scummy.. you can at most find it bad, but if you ask me it shows more that I actually tried going more in-depth than not. Also, I could have very very easily hammered him much earlier on, there was another time earlier in the day where he still had like four votes. Why would I firstly express doubt on his lynch, try to talk to people about it, etc. Only to hammer him in the way that I did later on? Seems silly to me, as scum... just look at how easily iamp voted him and got away with it (no one was gnawing at him). As a townie it shows that I'm invested and do not just want to casually vote for him. Also, why the hell did I need to say anything? Is adding him in my top scum list out of nowhere not the same as adding him saying "yea I agree with his case and think he's scum". That's just what townies love hearing but really makes no difference... | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
And if you had been scum, hammering him earlier would have been risky. Town was obviously still talking and discussing things, and a hammer at that point would have likely been seen as trying to shut down discussion. I assume you can see where that would have been bad scum play, and why hammering when you did would have made much more sense. And, you were talking about wanting to improve on your "towniness". Other townies want to hear about people having massive reads changes and some kid f justification for them. It's simple as hell to just plop down a name. People want to hear your thought process and why the read changed, so that they can make a judgement on your sincerity. Sorry if you thought my post was bashing you, though. That was totally not my intention. I just wanted to give you some constructive criticism to think about to go along with your personal goal of improving how you are perceived as town. I think you're a solid player overall and an asset to either team. <3 | ||
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Blazinghand
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Keirathi
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 26 2012 06:28 Blazinghand wrote: In my experience in instant lynch games, scum typically try very hard to avoid being the hammering vote. They're usually in the middle of the wagon. Of course, as soon as I say that it becomes less true, but it still applies. Hammering is usually not something you want to do as scum. Even done well, you naturally stick out in people's minds as the hammerer. Just because a guy hammers a townie doesn't make him scum. Scum made HALF the hammer votes in this game. HALF (that rounds up to ALL) | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
If I were scum and wanted to lynch him, the last thing I'd do is feel like I have to over-justify. I also could have put down the 3rd or fourth vote when a couple of people unvoted him. I dunno, I know it felt like I was over-justifying, but my timeline in regards to v7 doesn't make much sense to me being scummy. If I, as scum, felt that I didn't need to justify why I added him to my scum list, that same mentality would be enough to give him hsi 3rd or 4th vote. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Some suggestions would be to not sheep so hard/be wishy-washy and don't be afraid to take a stance and stick to it even if everyone thinks you're wrong. I stick to things all the time. Even when people think I am being Retarded. (even if they say it nicely <3 Austin) Also I don't think outing the medic was that big a deal. (OFC it was bad but in the grand scheme of things) I stopped looking at draz as a serious candidate after that and due to the small amount of players and how townie everyone was looking it really narrowed the suspects down with draz out of the picture, also meant that scum would have to use a shot on him and hapa would be alive longer to tear them apart. I would rather scummy draz make a save and then have to get shot than waste a lynch on him. meh. | ||
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Promethelax
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 26 2012 08:01 Promethelax wrote: Not just that, we saw his crumbs, his blue tells and his everything else and still found him scummy. DP, you had a good case, I was sad you dropped it. I would have wanted him to claim outright since that would mean that mafia would be forced to kill him or if he lived I could just lynch him. This is the reasoning behind me dropping the case on Draz. If he was medic, scum are going to night kill him. As we get closer to lylo it would be increasingly risky to keep him alive. If he was still alive later in the game I was going to go all out for his blood. But I thought it would be better to drop it for now and see if he got night killed. Rather than potentially waste a lynch on him. If you know what I mean? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 26 2012 08:08 DarthPunk wrote: This is the reasoning behind me dropping the case on Draz. If he was medic, scum are going to night kill him. As we get closer to lylo it would be increasingly risky to keep him alive. If he was still alive later in the game I was going to go all out for his blood. But I thought it would be better to drop it for now and see if he got night killed. Rather than potentially waste a lynch on him. If you know what I mean? Right, but what I was saying is that I would want to pressure him into claiming fully. If he is scum that gives him less wiggle room and makes sure that mafia know he is medic (in case the mafia is one of those lurky/don't-read-the-thread types). | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 26 2012 08:01 Promethelax wrote: Not just that, we saw his crumbs, his blue tells and his everything else and still found him scummy. DP, you had a good case, I was sad you dropped it. I would have wanted him to claim outright since that would mean that mafia would be forced to kill him or if he lived I could just lynch him. Also I almost did ask him to claim outright ROFL. I asked him if he was trying to crumb medic. I was beside myself at that point. So I took a shower and thought about it and decided to drop it for now. | ||
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