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LulzSec leader Sabu - FBI Mole - Page 4

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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
March 07 2012 19:31 GMT
#61
On March 08 2012 03:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LOL, "MONSEGUR, 28, of New York, New York, pled guilty to three counts of computer hacking conspiracy, five counts of computer hacking, one count of computer hacking in furtherance of fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit access device fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and one count of aggravated identity theft. He faces a maximum sentence of 124 years and six months in prison."

Damn, 124 years... Of course he would rat everyone out that he knew...


The sad part is that hacking a couple of pcs gives you a higher sentence then murder.
Shows what the world has come to.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 07 2012 19:32 GMT
#62
I hope all of them go to jail, most of these hackers do far more bad than good. Especially groups like anon and lulzec.
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RetroAspect
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium219 Posts
March 07 2012 19:42 GMT
#63
124yrs? that's insane! max sentence should be a year or something...
I am what i am and thats all that i am!
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
March 07 2012 19:55 GMT
#64
On March 08 2012 04:42 RetroAspect wrote:
124yrs? that's insane! max sentence should be a year or something...


even it it sounds worn out...

It is the USA, what did you expect?

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logikly
Profile Joined February 2009
United States329 Posts
March 07 2012 20:05 GMT
#65
Never heard of them until yesterday..
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 07 2012 20:18 GMT
#66
considering that sabu was a script kiddie only capable of orchestrating ddos attacks and high school level sql injections (hes unemployed people, people with actual skills tend to have a job) i dont think this is really going to do anything except piss off 4chan

derp us media
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Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
March 07 2012 20:31 GMT
#67
Turns out Virus was right, kid got owned, ratted out his "friends" and still faces jail. Hahahaha.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
March 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#68
Haha those logs are great, Virus fkn owned him
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 07 2012 21:01 GMT
#69
I hate how many times he said he "grew up on the streets". Mixed feelings about LulzSec going down. I have been a .....um...... I have followed there exploits closely for a long time. I don't agree with some of what they do, like releasing the names, addresses and all personal info of police, but they were shutting down child porn rings, finding information on them and sending it to the feds, basically doing what the feds wish they could do.
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 07 2012 21:02 GMT
#70
The FBI openly said that the only reason he cooperated is because he didn't want to leave his son without a father while he is in prison.
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
March 07 2012 21:20 GMT
#71
On March 08 2012 03:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LOL, "MONSEGUR, 28, of New York, New York, pled guilty to three counts of computer hacking conspiracy, five counts of computer hacking, one count of computer hacking in furtherance of fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit access device fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and one count of aggravated identity theft. He faces a maximum sentence of 124 years and six months in prison."

Damn, 124 years... Of course he would rat everyone out that he knew...


Glad to see America has it's priorities straight, seems like they take offense to this more so than murder.

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Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
March 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#72
It's a direct retaliation against "imposed rule of society" by the government, hence the much harsher- then murder- rap. Hardly worth fighting over, indeed this is all childish, from every angle. Like children who don't get what they want.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 07 2012 21:57 GMT
#73
On March 08 2012 03:22 sirkyan wrote:
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On March 08 2012 03:18 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Lol Sabu was just a scripter?(according to virus, who somewhat seems way smarter) .. hahahahaha and he's called the "most notorious" lolol.



In general, less intelligent people are less subtle about how they act, meaning they are usually more prone to get arrested.

I'm not implying anything about wether Sabu is not intelligent or not, I'm merely agreeing with your point that Virus did indeed seem to be smarter...


Lol. Apparently online hacking is the world's dumbest, pointlessly high stakes version of Mafia.

Sabu the detective was lynched!


On March 08 2012 04:14 theBALLS wrote:
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On March 08 2012 02:37 illu23 wrote:
I know that this is not likely to draw a lot of responses but I'm currently working on my PhD, which will be - generally speaking - about Anonymous: its origin, aims and how it actually changed over time. I'm most interested in it's internal structure. However, since Anonymous ain't a closed, centralized group or organization, I trying to look at it from a different way.

Therefore, I would love someone who is or has been working on or is/was affiliated with any kind of operation in the name of Anonymous. No email/ID has to be provided and even the slightest bit of information would be of good use. I'm not only asking this on the TL forum, but if you feel spoken to, contact me.

PM sent.


Now we get the real story behind how the EG mouse came to be.
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aogmxctm
Profile Joined September 2010
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:31:18
March 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#74
On March 08 2012 04:55 Fenrax wrote:
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On March 08 2012 04:42 RetroAspect wrote:
124yrs? that's insane! max sentence should be a year or something...


even it it sounds worn out...

It is the USA, what did you expect?


lol. in 99.9% of cases it is a concurrent sentence which means time served is equal to the length of the longest term. 124 years would be the sentence if it were consecutive which it WILL NOT be. This is something that also exists in the German legal system.

so NO, america does not consider computer hacking as deserving of a harsher punishment than murder.
typical europeans.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
March 07 2012 22:40 GMT
#75
On March 08 2012 07:29 aogmxctm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:55 Fenrax wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:42 RetroAspect wrote:
124yrs? that's insane! max sentence should be a year or something...


even it it sounds worn out...

It is the USA, what did you expect?


lol. in 99.9% of cases it is a concurrent sentence which means time served is equal to the length of the longest term. 124 years would be the sentence if it were consecutive which it WILL NOT be. This is something that also exists in the German legal system.

so NO, america does not consider computer hacking as deserving of a harsher punishment than murder.
typical europeans.


I wouldn't bundle all Europeans into the same group. Sure every country has a strong sense of nationalism amongst it's people, but Germans have the old WW2 axe to grind and despite knowing little about the US justice system he decides to take the 124 years as a standard sentence for computer crimes. I knowing nothing about the German justice system wouldn't even make a statement like his, but rather ask questions rather than take 124 years as fact when anyone with common sense knows that nobody actually goes to jail for that long for computer crimes alone except perhaps in some perverse situations where that time might be needed.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
March 07 2012 22:43 GMT
#76
Did he get any jail time himself?
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
March 07 2012 22:54 GMT
#77
I like how he sat around on welfare, praised democratically elected Hamas, then urged people to rise up against western governments. Cute.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:59:34
March 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#78
Team Liquid does not have collective thoughts. My thoughts are that the FBI has done a good job.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
March 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#79
bahahaha oh god
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
March 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#80
On March 08 2012 06:20 Valashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 03:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LOL, "MONSEGUR, 28, of New York, New York, pled guilty to three counts of computer hacking conspiracy, five counts of computer hacking, one count of computer hacking in furtherance of fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit access device fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and one count of aggravated identity theft. He faces a maximum sentence of 124 years and six months in prison."

Damn, 124 years... Of course he would rat everyone out that he knew...


Glad to see America has it's priorities straight, seems like they take offense to this more so than murder.

Charges stack and that is a maximum sentence. Please learn a little before the justice system before criticizing it on something you don't have knowledge of.
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