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On November 30 2010 08:03 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:00 Numy wrote:On November 30 2010 07:35 Liquid`Ret wrote:
why u hatin on pilniq avilo, its clear that terran has to play this way to have a chance imo, expect more of it rofl ret, trolling the nubs is always a good relaxant I see  . Anyway why the hating. The guy isn't claiming to be amazing or anything to my knowledge? He's just playing and winning Exactly. Maybe when his style stops working he will change it. Maybe he won't and will drop off. But as of now he's #1 so I'd say it's working really well.
The hate comes from:
1. He's bm
2. No tournament results to back up his prestigious #1 ladder ranking (#1 ladder is no GSL title, but if we're making such a big deal of it in the forums it obviously holds at least some prestige)
3. Lots of cheesy play
4. Other people thinking he's amazing
5. It's easy to rage and be frustrated at his abusive strats. I've lost to his mass PF and a-move banshees, and I got a glimpse of what it felt like to be Idra when he said "you won without doing a single thing" or "making carriers is a nice skill toi have"
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Yeaaa Kowiiiiiii #7!
You baller, you.
Anyway I've seen PiQLiQ play. He might be cheesy but that does not mean he isn't solid. Kids crazy good. His lategame is fully abusive of Terran which is good. Play your race to it's potential right? Not what other people deem "proper" or "good" play. Kid doesn't care, that's why he's #1 and your not.
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Does anyone have a replay of that Banshe+PF play and would be so kind and upload it somewhere?
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On November 30 2010 07:57 ForgetMeNow wrote:
I'm very confused as to why all the people who clearly aren't #1 on the ladder are insulting the person who is. Why call his strategies "nooby and bad" if they're working so well, even against diamond players. When he's ranked that high he's not playing bad players anymore, he'll be going against others at the top of the ladder. By insulting him, you're basically insulting every player on the ladder.
I don't know anything about him or his playstyle, but come on. Facts are facts, he's able to win. The goal of the game isn't to play in the prettiest way possible; the goal is to (have fun and) win.
Give credit where it's due.
(in before "I could be #1 too, I just don't have time to play that much" from every silver league player)
Actually, it's usually the silver noobies that defend the #1 guy because they put way too much value in ladder rankings, which is what everyone else in this thread is trying to disprove and prevent. Basically, every single player who is discrediting Piqliq is in the top 200 and near or above his level of play. Obviously he can crush nooby 2000pt diamonds but he's obviously not going to win any tournaments soon either. The reason he's number one is because he's played so many games. He might be able to win but he isn't able to win a large percentage of his games. Anyone can win games.
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On November 30 2010 08:03 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:00 Numy wrote:On November 30 2010 07:35 Liquid`Ret wrote:
why u hatin on pilniq avilo, its clear that terran has to play this way to have a chance imo, expect more of it rofl ret, trolling the nubs is always a good relaxant I see . Anyway why the hating. The guy isn't claiming to be amazing or anything to my knowledge? He's just playing and winning Exactly. Maybe when his style stops working he will change it. Maybe he won't and will drop off. But as of now he's #1 so I'd say it's working really well.
Ok, ok, police man. You caught me speeding 50 in a 20. Let's phrase it this way. PiqLiq has an an "amazing ladder style" as in for playing and getting ladder points, but his play style is not really a good "tournament style of play."
He's also very BM btw. Perhaps you haven't played him though .
On November 30 2010 08:24 Anihc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:03 Chill wrote:On November 30 2010 08:00 Numy wrote:On November 30 2010 07:35 Liquid`Ret wrote:
why u hatin on pilniq avilo, its clear that terran has to play this way to have a chance imo, expect more of it rofl ret, trolling the nubs is always a good relaxant I see . Anyway why the hating. The guy isn't claiming to be amazing or anything to my knowledge? He's just playing and winning Exactly. Maybe when his style stops working he will change it. Maybe he won't and will drop off. But as of now he's #1 so I'd say it's working really well. The hate comes from: 1. He's bm 2. No tournament results to back up his prestigious #1 ladder ranking (#1 ladder is no GSL title, but if we're making such a big deal of it in the forums it obviously holds at least some prestige) 3. Lots of cheesy play 4. Other people thinking he's amazing 5. It's easy to rage and be frustrated at his abusive strats. I've lost to his mass PF and a-move banshees, and I got a glimpse of what it felt like to be Idra when he said "you won without doing a single thing" or "making carriers is a nice skill toi have"
this post pretty much says it all 
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piqliq plays terran and toss... that alone should grant him some respect... and even if he is cheesy, thats just part of the game. Sure he doesnt place well in tourneys, but hes certainly beating many many top players with his strats.
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On the ladder I think its easy to take some free wins by doing a really weird build and count on your opponent not expecting what to do next. Props to piqliq though I'm pretty curious about this "weird" style. Do what works and what gets you wins, isn't that the point of the ladder?
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it's certainly very frustrating to play against piqliq. I remember one game I was streaming, and ended up playing against him twice in a row. First game ended up to be a 1 hr long tvt where in the end, mass ravens beat battlecruisers, and he won. Second game, he cannon rushed me and I didn't know he was protoss :/ Who cares if he is cheesy to get to #1. He definitely has his unique style of play. just frustrating to play against him :D
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lol he has like 50+ recent wins on ladder just doing thor +scv pushes. It seems he uses all the OP shit and mixes it with cheese. Pretty creative, blizz should probably be looking at his games to see how fucked the game is when you abuse its problems
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There's no better way to ruin your ladder session in a fit of rage than losing to PiQLiQ. That guy does strategies you know you shouldn't have lost to which just makes it all the more embarrassing and upsetting
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Why so much hate towards PiQLiQ. I personally love his unique style of play. It's fun to play vs and it's fun to watch. I personally never experienced BM from him, although when he loses he doesn't type gg, but everyone does that time to time. Congrats to him for getting #1. Also, tournament accomplishments are what matters, in my opinion as well. However, I would be lying if I didn't think that getting #1 on top 200 wasn't a cool accomplishment or a testament to someone's skill.
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On November 30 2010 08:46 Zelniq wrote:
There's no better way to ruin your ladder session in a fit of rage than losing to PiQLiQ. That guy does strategies you know you shouldn't have lost to which just makes it all the more embarrassing and upsetting
lol, that is true =[.
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Wasn't Piqliq the guy that raged at Catz for expanding more than once in a game? He was trying to insult him by saying he is playing command and conquer because he expanded so much, or something like that...It didn't really make any sense. Everytime I see him on stream he gets absolutely smashed by the pro players so it's probably just game spamming to beat lesser players.
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PiQLiQ's unique style is worthy of some praise in my opinion. He kind of reminds me of Torch with his uniqueness except PiQLiQ seems to be a bit more all-in with some of his play. It's also cool that he ladders with both protoss and terran.
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piqliq made 20 cannons so catz took the whole map and he raged at catz for playing command and conquer unlim money or something...
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On November 30 2010 08:46 Zelniq wrote:
There's no better way to ruin your ladder session in a fit of rage than losing to PiQLiQ. That guy does strategies you know you shouldn't have lost to which just makes it all the more embarrassing and upsetting
Then you should be glad that he exists, because now you won't lose to it again.
You won't lose to it again, right?
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On November 30 2010 06:44 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:41 jamesr12 wrote:
I love people saying the number one person on the ladder is bad. Maybe he isnt going to be the next GSL winner, but he clearly isnt "bad." Stop hating and go play. he's very good at cannon rushing and building voidrays i give u that.
lol i've never heard of this guy. how does everyone know his playstyle? streamed tourneys?
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On November 30 2010 08:25 FataLe wrote:
Yeaaa Kowiiiiiii #7!
You baller, you.
Anyway I've seen PiQLiQ play. He might be cheesy but that does not mean he isn't solid. Kids crazy good. His lategame is fully abusive of Terran which is good. Play your race to it's potential right? Not what other people deem "proper" or "good" play. Kid doesn't care, that's why he's #1 and your not.
People didnt say he wasnt solid, they said he was cheesy and bad mannered/disrespectful. "Abusive" play isnt considered respectable to everyone, so it cant be factually called "good". "Play your race to its potential" could mean many different things to many different people, and its obvious that some people dont see potential in his style by the comments in this thread. The "kid" obviously does care, or else he wouldnt be mass gaming. And the reason he is number 1 is because he is playing mass games with strats that are winning him games, not because other players "arent him". Lastly, i highly doubt he is a kid. I dont know why some people think its valid to discredit criticism by claiming its jealousy fueled. How many youtube vids are there of some terrible band that someone commented how terrible it is just to have some 13 year old respond with "ur just mad cuz ur not famous"? Meanwhile, that band is horrible, and marketing sells them rather than actual musical ability. So as you can see, not all criticism is based in jealousy.
On the other hand, i dont refute that his results are interesting, and i look forward to seeing more of his replays/results. I actually dont mind abusive playstyles. Sometimes abusive is what they call it before they start calling it standard.
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On November 30 2010 07:35 Liquid`Ret wrote:
why u hatin on pilniq avilo, its clear that terran has to play this way to have a chance imo, expect more of it
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
ret has got quite the banter on him
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