if you are a top 200 player or a big fan of any of those big names... be sure to check out my Top 200 KOTH hosted every Friday.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160509

Ezze

Canada934 Posts

November 30 2010 00:41 GMT

#102

On November 30 2010 09:39 thundertoss wrote:
if you are a top 200 player or a big fan of any of those big names... be sure to check out my Top 200 KOTH hosted every Friday.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160509

Sounds like getting PiQliQ on there would definitely create some hype

Mellotron

United States329 Posts

November 30 2010 00:42 GMT

#103

Well i watched that replay of PiQliQ just now. Maybe its old and he has come up a notch in skill since then, but overall in that replay he played like garbage. In the first phases of the game he did a pitiful attempt at pyloning in the Terrans base, threw units away, had piss-poor unit composition by not bringing at least 1 sentry after he went up the Terrans ramp (he could have ended the game right there), then went on to force field horribly at his own ramp, built a ton of cannons and threw away more units, etc etc. Seriously maybe now he got alot better, i mean, he must have. But that replay he in no way showed any "super game sense" or anything like it. It seems more like he tries everything he can to get an easy win, and then panics after it fails, at which point he then defends by the least skill based means possible. I dont think its a matter of opinion, at least in that game. There are many instances where he really isnt even thinking at what i would call slightly advanced level. He has almost zero forethought, and he could have won the game much more easily at several points if he had brought a single sentry, or even been able to forcefield properly.

But, like i said, that seems like a slightly older replay. Maybe by now he is brilliant strategist. Or maybe hes just better at Terran. Either way there is nothing special about his play in that replay whatsoever. In that game his game sense is indistinguishable from Gold level play.

donut boi

United States154 Posts

November 30 2010 00:54 GMT

#104

I wanna see more of this guy just to see top players rage... someone contact him and tell him to play in tourneys!!!! and yea he has the most epic of epic rivalries with mini... saw a game on lost temple where every mineral patch got mined out and it came down to a final zealot/templar vs rauder/ghost clash. Piqliq summoned down mules to mine out mini's last base too... so epic... mini lost, but that match will be remembered for centuries. He seems pretty well mannered when playing against him, maybe its just mini...

internationale

1 Post

November 30 2010 01:04 GMT

#105

pretty bad 1st post but there's a few replays of him here
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?s=54f86703cc7acb8d432256204088d024&game=33&show=search_submit&search_player=PiQLiQ
some crazy games don't rly see where the hate is coming from either just seems like a good macro player to me

TT1

Canada10105 Posts

November 30 2010 01:09 GMT

#106

lol this is getting ridiculous, i kinda feel bad for making my post now(i was trying to get at how difficult it is to deal with mass banshee+pfs, i never tried to insult him as a player).. the guy gets no1 on the us server, always minds his own business but for some reason everyone decides to still shit on him

typical gamers who become jealous and feel the urge to defend their ego, then u have the public who bandwagons at every opportunity that they see

Antoine

United States7481 Posts

November 30 2010 01:19 GMT

#107

sounds like a pretty creative guy, look forward to maybe seeing him in a tourney stream in the near future? fingers crossed.

positron.

634 Posts

November 30 2010 01:36 GMT

#108

On November 30 2010 10:09 TT1 wrote:
lol this is getting ridiculous, i kinda feel bad for making my post now(i was trying to get at how difficult it is to deal with mass banshee+pfs, i never tried to insult him as a player).. the guy gets no1 on the us server, always minds his own business but for some reason everyone decides to still shit on him

typical gamers who become jealous and feel the urge to defend their ego, then u have the public who bandwagons at every opportunity that they see

Well said. If Ret cheesed in a GSL game and won everybody will be "What a gutsy move. He dared to put it all on the line like that." The mentality of many people in this thread is really amazing. People with no principles are the worst.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

November 30 2010 01:46 GMT

#109

Imo props to the dude for thinking up "creative" strategies to get to the top. But people need to lay off, I don't think anyone defending him is trying to say he's better then players like TT1, Qxc, etc.

hiyo_bye

United States737 Posts

November 30 2010 01:53 GMT

#110

Yesterday I was hoping someone made a piqliq fan club, some every game I've seen with him is awesome. someone do it!

LynxKerr

Canada173 Posts

November 30 2010 02:05 GMT

#111

Yo piqliq is amazing... hate him or love him, the dude is flat out hard to beat.. whether it be cheese or a more basic game. The dude is so so abusive I love it. So many people crying on here having lost to piqliq's crazy builds over and over again. At some point it reveals the truth: he executes various builds with 2 races better than you execute your standard with one race.

I played him once on ladder and lost to the million banshee late game strategy.

DeltruS

Canada2214 Posts

November 30 2010 02:17 GMT

#112

Grats PsY on #150! Great job.

Reason.SC2

Canada1047 Posts

November 30 2010 02:20 GMT

#113

Lot of hating going on here. Even if he is cheesing every game to get to #1 on ladder he's got to beat a lot of good players. That ain't easy. He's obviously not awful like some of you self-righteous people are suggesting.

If he is so bad and predictable then you should easily bit him constantly and he'll drop off quickly. So don't hate on forums and go bop some clowns (assuming that you can ofc).

The only problem I see here is with the way the ladder works. Some tournaments (Blizzcon, some of the GSLs planned for 2011) are based on ladder rankings. If a player peaks at the appropriate time using unique play styles, this might result in someone who isn't a well-rounded player ending up representing their region.

Anyways its been established and beat to death already that ladder is not a reliable measure of skill. Given that why hate on Piqliq for getting #1. Its the ladder ranking dynamics that reward a play style that you don't like. Thats not his fault. Stop being a jealous girlyman.

donut boi

United States154 Posts

November 30 2010 02:23 GMT

#114

On November 30 2010 10:04 internationale wrote:
pretty bad 1st post but there's a few replays of him here
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?s=54f86703cc7acb8d432256204088d024&game=33&show=search_submit&search_player=PiQLiQ
some crazy games don't rly see where the hate is coming from either just seems like a good macro player to me

:O just saw the game called "piqliqs demise." He def has an interesting style. idk where the notion that he is a cheesy player comes from either cuz in that game he macros super hard... made his nat a pf and went for a fast 3rd... i wanna see more of this guy tbh, very inconsistent player in terms of strategy. lol maybe he account shares? how else can he manage playing both terran/toss and a wide array of playstyles.

Deleted User 108965

1096 Posts

November 30 2010 02:26 GMT

#115

On November 30 2010 11:17 Kraz.Del wrote:
Grats PsY on #150! Great job.

oh wow i forgot to look for him, thats awesome! love that guy

flopflop

45 Posts

November 30 2010 02:27 GMT

#116

anyone have any replays of this mass banshee planetary fortress style?

Skullflower

United States3779 Posts

November 30 2010 02:39 GMT

#117

Isn't PiQLiQ the person that cheeses every single game?

Cedstick

Canada3336 Posts

November 30 2010 02:41 GMT

#118

All those shit-talking Piqliq didn't see him play an hour+ TvT against Stalife and win. Dude is sick.

bLueSkY)

New Zealand88 Posts

November 30 2010 02:45 GMT

#119

LOL this is hilarious. Wow he cheeses.. ok so because hes not playing the way you want him to play which is "standard" hes apparently unworthy of top1? the fact hes even gotten to top1 by obviously beating decent players suggests his method of play is favourable for ladder wins;

if somone other than piqliq is deserves top1 on the ladder they should beat his "cheesey" unskillful play then, since hes so "bad". It scares me people think this game HAS to be played a certain way, let me repeat what this is... a GAME

flopflop

45 Posts

November 30 2010 03:05 GMT

#120

someone plz make a piqliq fanclub i would like to join