EPTI agree with a number of people in the thread that have said we need to elect a mayor who we feel most comfortable being not mafia, that for me is Jimbo. I talked with him on IRC a bit and while I am not 100% convinced obviously, I feel more comfortable with him as mayor than the other candidates at the moment. Even before the elections began he was posting with a very clear headed no fluff style, and when he announced his candidacy he said exactly what he wanted to do and why. As far as the pardoner role is concerned I defiantly think he should completely refrain from using his power unless role mechanics alter the lynch. Again, I will be hanging out on IRC if you have any questions.
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I agree with a number of people in the thread that have said we need to elect a mayor who we feel most comfortable being not mafia, that for me is Jimbo. I talked with him on IRC a bit and while I am not 100% convinced obviously, I feel more comfortable with him as mayor than the other candidates at the moment. Even before the elections began he was posting with a very clear headed no fluff style, and when he announced his candidacy he said exactly what he wanted to do and why. As far as the pardoner role is concerned I defiantly think he should completely refrain from using his power unless role mechanics alter the lynch. Again, I will be hanging out on IRC if you have any questions. | ||
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On October 15 2011 12:01 chaoser wrote: I think he's trying to say that he wants to lynch me DINGDINGDING we have a Without further ado, I shall present to you all: wherebugsgo's Traveling Circus Featuring: The Scum of the Day Ladies and gents, Tudors and Lancasters, Commoners and Yorkers+ Show Spoiler + (and anyone I may have missed inbetween, *wink* *wink*) CHAOSER! + Show Spoiler + cue applause yaaaaaay go chaoser yaaaaay clap clap clap clap For his first trick, chaoser displays: contradiction! Observe carefully as he says that he will support sandroba and Radfield if he doesn't gain ground while seeking election, and then backpedals on Radfield! + Show Spoiler + [13:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected? [13:39] <chaoser> myself [13:40] <wherebugsgo> and who else? [13:42] <chaoser> i don't know, i don't trust anyone else enough to want them in an elected role [13:42] <chaoser> but i feel like that's pretty much how everyone should feel [13:42] <chaoser> about elections [13:42] <chaoser> if i really had to [13:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba [13:42] <chaoser> or rad [13:42] <chaoser> it'd force them to keep contributing [13:43] <wherebugsgo> so wait [13:43] <wherebugsgo> do you or do you not trust sandroba/radfield? [13:44] <chaoser> i trust them as much as i can shake a thumb at them but since I don't know if they're 100% town I'm weary [13:44] <chaoser> who are you goign to vote for? [13:45] <wherebugsgo> mmm [13:45] <wherebugsgo> probably syllo [13:45] <chaoser> the syllo mig team? [13:45] <chaoser> they're running together btw [13:46] <wherebugsgo> yeah, I know [13:46] <chaoser> k [13:46] <chaoser> so you trust both of them? [13:46] <wherebugsgo> syllo is my strongest town read atm, yes [13:46] <wherebugsgo> and Mig is pretty up there too [13:48] <chaoser> is this from thread [13:48] <chaoser> or PMs? [13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs mostly [13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs and thread for syllo + Show Spoiler [disclaimer] + This was early yesterday, when I believed syllo and Mig were town. Today, I am unsure and I will get to this later + Show Spoiler + [18:47] <chaoser> they are? [19:20] <chaoser> where did they say that? [19:34] <wherebugsgo> wait what? sorry [19:34] <wherebugsgo> I don't know what you're referring to because this IRC window is fresh [19:34] <wherebugsgo> so I have nothing from the previous session [19:34] <chaoser> [18:57] <wherebugsgo> so sandroba and radfield were planning on running together?\ [19:34] <chaoser> i was at work [19:35] <wherebugsgo> they said that earlier in IRC I believe [19:35] <wherebugsgo> now sandroba supports syllo [19:35] <chaoser> ok [19:35] <wherebugsgo> so you would still support Radfield for office [19:35] <wherebugsgo> if you didn't gain any ground? [19:36] <chaoser> if i don't gain any ground i'll vote syllo [19:37] <wherebugsgo> why the change of heart? [19:38] <chaoser> i didn't have a change of heart? [19:38] <chaoser> i said i woudl vote sandroba [19:38] <chaoser> if he ran [19:39] <chaoser> he said he's not running [19:39] <chaoser> and that he suports syllo [19:39] <chaoser> where is the change of heart in that? [19:40] <wherebugsgo> you said you'd support radfield or sandroba [19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected? [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> if i really had to [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> or rad [19:41] <wherebugsgo> yep [19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected? [19:41] == No such nick: chaoser [19:42] <wherebugsgo> so now [19:42] == No such nick: chaoser [19:42] <chaoser> ok apparently if i copy paste the log [19:42] <chaoser> i get disconencted [19:42] <chaoser> but go look [19:42] <chaoser> in the logs [19:42] <chaoser> where do i say [19:42] <chaoser> i'm voting radfield? [19:42] <wherebugsgo> you say you want sandroba or rad [19:42] <wherebugsgo> elected [19:42] <wherebugsgo> not syllo [19:42] <chaoser> i never said that [19:42] <wherebugsgo> yes you did you just copied it [19:42] <wherebugsgo> [19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected? [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> if i really had to [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> or rad [19:43] <wherebugsgo> sandroba, or rad [19:43] <wherebugsgo> sandroba's gone [19:43] <wherebugsgo> so that leaves rad [19:43] <wherebugsgo> why syllo and not rad? [19:43] <chaoser> oh ok, i thought you meant like a combo [19:43] <wherebugsgo> what? [19:43] <wherebugsgo> you said OR [19:43] <wherebugsgo> how the hell is that a combo [19:44] <chaoser> yeah i know, you said are you voting for rad? [19:44] <wherebugsgo> ok brb custom [19:44] <chaoser> ? [19:44] <chaoser> what's custom [19:45] <wherebugsgo> sc2 [19:45] <chaoser> ... [19:48] <chaoser> i meant to say that if i had to vote otherwise besides myself i would vote sand or rad but that i didn't fully 100% trust either one of them. I believe sandroba to be townish and radfield I'm not sure about, hence why previously I had said a null read on him. At the time, those were the only two people I were thinking and I didn't notice syllo at all. After talkign to sandroba about it, I [19:48] <chaoser> reread syllo's posts and they seemed decently protownie to me. That is why [21:00] <wherebugsgo> okay [21:00] == No such nick: chaoser Chaoser says he'll vote sandroba or Radfield if he himself doesn't gain much ground, then completely avoids Radfield like the plague. He even says "oh I thought you meant combo" when he himself said sandroba OR radfield, never sandroba AND radfield. Weird, eh? What else has Chaoser got to show us? It looks like.... Using past games to "prove" a point! + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2011 12:27 chaoser wrote: ![[image loading]](http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/26/9938-mikehaggar.jpg) Chaoser For Mayor! I will hunt every scum down. My record in XXXVIII, XXXIX and LOTR speaks for itself. I will lead this town to victory. Vote Chaoser. Then calling out supersoft for using similar logic for supporting someone else for mayor! + Show Spoiler + On October 15 2011 05:59 chaoser wrote: Your only criteria for voting for someone is that you've played in previously PM games with them and that they are active all the time? There are other things too, but I've stopped here because I have been in IRC this entire time and have lost my focus on this post. I'll clarify more things/reasons if anyone wants me to. (I'm on IRC) Here's a conversation we just had in which chaoser provides reasons as to why he's playing the way he's playing: + Show Spoiler + [20:47] <chaosers> yo [20:48] <wherebugsgo> sup [20:49] <chaosers> why do you think i'm mafia? [20:49] <wherebugsgo> you'll find out soon enough [20:49] <wherebugsgo> besides DB who do you want lynched? [20:49] <wherebugsgo> and why? [20:49] <chaosers> hiro [20:49] <chaosers> rafield [20:49] <chaosers> anyone saying mafia won't run for office [20:50] <chaosers> basically [20:50] <wherebugsgo> okay [20:50] <wherebugsgo> so why hiro? [20:50] <wherebugsgo> besides that [20:50] <wherebugsgo> it can't be the only reason lol [20:50] <chaosers> I would like to nominate the 3 most active and protown people as of right now, and that would be: [20:50] <chaosers> Sandroba [20:50] <chaosers> Jumbo [20:50] <chaosers> Radfield [20:50] <chaosers> All three put a lot of effort into organizing town so far. By putting them in public office, We pressure them to keep up there performance. Of the three, I like Sand and Rad the most, Jumbo the least. [20:51] <chaosers> chaoser or wiggles dont have a platform, so i see no reason to elect them. They could change my mind, if they give me a reason to. [20:51] <chaosers> stuff like that [20:51] <chaosers> no, they dont have platforms, but I was putting out who I would like to run based on there performance this game so far. [20:51] <chaosers> I look up to you and your play as something to emulate, and while your past performance in leading town is impressive, you haven't done much of that this game. Or perhaps i should say your number 4 behind sand/jumbo/rad. I might vote for you, but you got to give me more reasons [20:51] <chaosers> then he says [20:51] <chaosers> I am of the opinion that the scum teams wont try running for mayor unless they have some role combo that would stop DT checks (I doubt all three would have this). maybe 2 out of 3. maybe. [20:52] <chaosers> by that logic [20:52] <chaosers> i'd be least likely to have a combo role [20:52] <wherebugsgo> so again, other than the fact that he overlooked the fact that several roles in the game have the ability to be strong as scum in office, why is hiro scum? [20:52] <chaosers> since i'm 19 [20:53] <chaosers> cool, Im voting for Radfield. [20:53] <chaosers> My dream picks are Rad/mig for Mayor/pardoner right now. Both have put a good amount of effort into the thread or PMs. Both are good scumhunters (Well I dont know about Rad, Im going of reputation. but Mig is for sure). [20:53] <chaosers> My only hang up about Mig is that prior to getting his role, he showed no interest into becoming Mayor. I might be overly paranoid, but I dont think any scum would have been gunning for the Mayor slot until they got there role. [20:53] <chaosers> he says he's vointg for rad [20:53] <chaosers> and immediately pairs him with mig [20:53] <chaosers> who is a lot more townie [20:55] <wherebugsgo> sooo [20:55] <wherebugsgo> I don't really see you [20:55] <wherebugsgo> providing reasons [20:55] <wherebugsgo> just saying he likes Radfield and Mig for office [20:55] <wherebugsgo> so he's scum? [20:55] <wherebugsgo> lol [20:56] <chaosers> if you're going to tunnel me [20:56] <chaosers> then tunnel me [20:56] <chaosers> you've played games where i've played mafia [20:57] <wherebugsgo> I've played one game [20:57] <chaosers> ask yourself if my play this game is a result of me being mafia or a product of being overworked, underslept, and out of my element [20:57] <wherebugsgo> where you're scum [20:57] <wherebugsgo> uhh lol [20:57] <wherebugsgo> don't get all emotional with me [20:57] <wherebugsgo> that shit doesn't work [20:57] <chaosers> i ain't getting emotional [20:57] <chaosers> that's my excuse for my play [20:57] <chaosers> take it or leave it [20:57] <wherebugsgo> well, you're pulling in outside of game excuses [20:57] <wherebugsgo> for your play [20:57] <chaosers> indeed i am [20:57] <wherebugsgo> you really think that's going to help your case, then so be it [20:58] <chaosers> it's called emta [20:58] <wherebugsgo> however [20:58] <wherebugsgo> your meta would suggest that you are scum this game [20:58] <chaosers> from the one game you played with me/ [20:58] <wherebugsgo> no [20:58] <wherebugsgo> primarily from what I saw in LOTR when you were town [20:58] <chaosers> you mean at the end of that game? [20:58] <wherebugsgo> as town you don't seem to back off when you think someone is scm [20:58] <wherebugsgo> yep [20:59] <chaosers> did i back off from people when i was scum in that one game where i was mafia? [20:59] <wherebugsgo> you bussed in that game [20:59] <chaosers> have i EVER backed off people? [20:59] <wherebugsgo> other than that [21:00] <chaosers> so all of a sudden i decide it's ok in my play [21:00] <wherebugsgo> you pushed DB [21:00] <chaosers> to back off people [21:00] <wherebugsgo> sorry, Pyo [21:00] <wherebugsgo> as a mislynch [21:00] <wherebugsgo> you push bad townies [21:00] <wherebugsgo> as scum [21:00] <chaosers> that's like every scum,at least this time after talkign to people [21:00] <chaosers> i acknowledge [21:00] <chaosers> he was bad lynch [21:00] <chaosers> and gave up on it [21:01] <chaosers> if i had kept pushing it i can understand [21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:02] <chaosers> just [21:02] <chaosers> whatever [21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:02] <chaosers> clearly nothing i say [21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:02] <chaosers> will convince you otherwise [21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:02] <chaosers> lol [21:03] <wherebugsgo> trololool [21:03] <chaosers> trololol [21:04] <wherebugsgo> oh btw [21:04] <wherebugsgo> XLIV doesn't apply as much here, since you decided you'd bus Mig as your plan from day 1 [21:04] <wherebugsgo> bussing doesn't really work here when you have 3 scumteams and each team is made of 4 players each [21:04] <chaosers> you know you could go look at every other game [21:04] <chaosers> i've palyed mafia [21:05] <chaosers> besides that one right? [21:05] <wherebugsgo> so whether your meta as scum applies from XLIV here doesn't matter [21:05] <wherebugsgo> no, actually, there's no game where someone as scum (for good players, anyway) will apply here [21:05] <wherebugsgo> really we can only use town meta [21:05] <wherebugsgo> because that's what will be consistent [21:05] <wherebugsgo> scum meta is going to be useless because even scum in this game will want to "scumhunt" [21:05] <chaosers> ok so in a game [21:05] <chaosers> that's soooo easy [21:05] <wherebugsgo> in XLIV you bussed Mig two days in a row, so your "meta" there is largely useless [21:05] <chaosers> to scumhunt [21:06] <chaosers> you'd think [21:06] <chaosers> i'd be a lot better at it huh? [21:06] <wherebugsgo> in this game? [21:06] <wherebugsgo> yeah definitely [21:06] <chaosers> yeah [21:06] <chaosers> in this game [21:06] <chaosers> yeah [21:06] <chaosers> but i didn't [21:06] <chaosers> if i was mafia, i'd be living it up [21:06] <wherebugsgo> I'd think you'd actually put some heart into it if you were town [21:06] <chaosers> it' be liek bussing mafia that weren't even on my team [21:06] <wherebugsgo> wtf? [21:06] <chaosers> by bussing i mean [21:06] <wherebugsgo> yes, kinda [21:06] <chaosers> i'd be hunting mafia [21:06] <wherebugsgo> you would get towncred [21:06] <chaosers> like it was going out of fashion [21:07] <chaosers> yeah [21:07] <wherebugsgo> but [21:07] <wherebugsgo> you'd still have an agenda [21:07] <wherebugsgo> and your agenda is apparent [21:07] <chaosers> i understan that's like WIFOM [21:07] <wherebugsgo> you want to lynch people who appear scummy [21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro and DB are fucking terrible lynches and you'd know that if you were town [21:07] <wherebugsgo> you saw XLIV and how bad they both played [21:07] <wherebugsgo> DB as medic and hiro as VT [21:07] <chaosers> i don't even remember hiro [21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro fakeclaimed vet [21:07] <chaosers> as a player [21:07] <wherebugsgo> and DB claimed DT? into medic [21:07] <wherebugsgo> and then got himself shot [21:08] <wherebugsgo> cause he was dumb. [21:08] <chaosers> i remember someone doing that but not who it was [21:08] <chaosers> but now i do [21:08] <chaosers> so thanks [21:08] <wherebugsgo> now he's doing something dumb again and you jump all over him as if that's some sort of huge tell that he's scum [21:08] <wherebugsgo> same with hiro [21:08] <wherebugsgo> hiro is being standard hiro for all intents and purposes [21:08] <wherebugsgo> and you want to lynch him because he's "scummy" without actually providing real reasons [21:08] <wherebugsgo> if you were town [21:08] <chaosers> he said [21:09] <wherebugsgo> you would recognize that these two players are both known for this kind of play [21:09] <chaosers> that he thinks mafia would run for office [21:09] <chaosers> unless they have combos [21:09] <wherebugsgo> and you would give them time [21:09] <wherebugsgo> he thinks they would NOT run for office [21:09] <chaosers> um, i'm sorry but i'm not super jesus with a memory of 100 [21:09] <chaosers> i on't remember bad palyers [21:09] <chaosers> the only bad player i remember [21:09] <chaosers> is kenpachi [21:09] <chaosers> cause i got him lynched once as town [21:09] <chaosers> and he was town [21:09] <wherebugsgo> you just played a game [21:09] <chaosers> and lsot us the game [21:09] <wherebugsgo> full of bad players [21:09] <wherebugsgo> in LoTR [21:10] <chaosers> yeah, and i only remember the last few poeple [21:10] <chaosers> heist [21:10] <chaosers> and trancestorm [21:10] <chaosers> mostly trancesotrm [21:10] <wherebugsgo> and Drazerk [21:10] <chaosers> i will never play with that guy again [21:10] <chaosers> drazerk protected my ass [21:10] <chaosers> i high five him [21:10] <wherebugsgo> he also protted iGrok [21:10] <wherebugsgo> the "survivor Balrog" [21:10] <chaosers> yeah that was really stupid... [21:10] <chaosers> hey, i actually thought iGRok was actualyl th balrog [21:10] <wherebugsgo> and also believed kita's tracker claim IIRC rofl [21:11] <chaosers> everyon believd his claim [21:11] <wherebugsgo> and by everyone, you mean all the townies who were left [21:11] <wherebugsgo> and almost all of them were bad to some extent at least lol [21:11] <wherebugsgo> heist believes any claim [21:11] <chaosers> um, it was day 2 when he claimed [21:11] <chaosers> i tihnk [21:11] <wherebugsgo> no it was later than that [21:11] <chaosers> day 3 [21:12] <wherebugsgo> all the good townies were dead by that point [21:12] <wherebugsgo> but anyway [21:12] <wherebugsgo> I think you're a good player as town [21:12] <wherebugsgo> which is why I seriously question your motives [21:12] <wherebugsgo> when you push DB and hiro [21:12] <chaosers> jesus that was such a shit game... [21:12] <chaosers> mafia were so stacked with good palyers... [21:13] <chaosers> jackal things hiro is a good lynch too> [21:15] <chaosers> mig agrees that peopel who said mafia aren't running in elections is scummy as well? [21:15] <chaosers> i talke to both of them before i decided on hiro [21:15] <chaosers> this was after the DB thing [21:16] <wherebugsgo> 1. the other things that Jackal and Mig have done/said are not quite as scummy as what you have done [21:16] <chaosers> i was out of it from work [21:16] <wherebugsgo> 2. they actually have good reasons [21:16] <wherebugsgo> and can provide them [21:16] <wherebugsgo> 3. they have some original opinions. [21:17] <wherebugsgo> I can't find anything that you've said that hadn't already been said by some other person in the game already [21:17] <chaosers> i've been in the ER for like 15 hours [21:17] <chaosers> in the past three days [21:17] <chaosers> + med school classes [21:17] <wherebugsgo> dude [21:17] <wherebugsgo> a lot of us have school too [21:17] <chaosers> i'm sorry that i haven't been puttign in my 100% [21:17] <wherebugsgo> I don't care what's going on outside of game [21:17] <wherebugsgo> if that's an issue [21:17] <chaosers> did you have to hold someone's liver for three hours straight? [21:17] <wherebugsgo> request a replacement [21:17] <wherebugsgo> do I care? [21:17] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:18] <chaosers> apparently you don't [21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game isn't about sparing who I have the most sympathy for [21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game is about finding scum and killing them [21:18] <chaosers> i'm not saying [21:18] <chaosers> pity me [21:18] <chaosers> i'm saying [21:18] <wherebugsgo> certainly sounds like it lol [21:18] <chaosers> whether i'm scum or not [21:18] <chaosers> wil lbe clear [21:18] <chaosers> in a ay or two [21:18] <chaosers> especailly after elections [21:18] <wherebugsgo> "oh look at how much work I've been doing irl please let me live" [21:18] <chaosers> sigh [21:18] <wherebugsgo> lol [21:18] <chaosers> your arguement against me [21:19] <chaosers> is that i'm not playing up to snuff [21:19] <chaosers> my defense is that i know i'm not [21:19] <chaosers> and this is the reason why [21:19] <wherebugsgo> so you think [21:19] <wherebugsgo> we should lynch hiro/DB instead of you? [21:19] <wherebugsgo> or Radfield lol [21:19] <chaosers> i think radfield [21:19] <chaosers> actually [21:19] <chaosers> i don't think [21:19] <chaosers> i nee to reread the thread [21:19] <chaosers> when i'm not dea tired [21:19] <chaosers> and then talk to people [21:19] <wherebugsgo> loool [21:19] <chaosers> restart the game [21:20] <wherebugsgo> you have like [21:20] <wherebugsgo> 24 hours tomorrow [21:20] <wherebugsgo> it's a saturday [21:20] <wherebugsgo> if you're really this tired you'll have plenty of time to save yourself! [21:20] <chaosers> hospitals don't clsoe on weekends btw, but i'll only be busy from 5AM-9AM [21:21] <chaosers> how old are you -_- [21:21] <chaosers> to compare school to med school is ridiculous... [21:21] <wherebugsgo> I'm a physics/linguistics undergrad at UC Berkeley [21:21] <wherebugsgo> don't try to use the school excuse on me lol [21:22] <wherebugsgo> I realize that med school is hard [21:22] <wherebugsgo> but it's a pathetic excuse [21:22] <chaosers> come to med school, see our 80 hour work week [21:22] <wherebugsgo> dude [21:22] <chaosers> that's liek average [21:22] <wherebugsgo> if you're so bogged down [21:22] <wherebugsgo> why the hell are you playing mafia? [21:22] <wherebugsgo> if this is real I can't imagine you're even enjoying the game [21:22] <chaosers> i wasn't expecting to be this bogge down [21:22] <chaosers> one of my coworkers [21:22] <chaosers> is out sick [21:22] <chaosers> so i had to take their shift for this week [21:23] <chaosers> i'll be free all of next week [21:23] <chaosers> from shifts [21:23] <chaosers> since he'll be back [21:23] <wherebugsgo> zZz [21:23] <chaosers> and covering all of mine [21:23] <chaosers> and no [21:23] <chaosers> i'm not enjoyign this game [21:23] <chaosers> rightn ow [21:23] <wherebugsgo> I would think if you were town you'd probably request replacement lol [21:23] <wherebugsgo> but whatever [21:23] <chaosers> you know, you could try being a little bit less of a condescending ass [21:23] <wherebugsgo> I'm being condescending? [21:23] <wherebugsgo> rofl [21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm not saying I'm better than you [21:24] <chaosers> with the zZzs and lol's [21:24] <chaosers> ? [21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm just saying this is really underhanded [21:24] <chaosers> patronizing [21:24] <wherebugsgo> it's total bullshit IMO [21:24] <wherebugsgo> to be using IRL excuses in a game of psychology [21:24] <wherebugsgo> and in fact [21:24] <wherebugsgo> anyone who does so [21:24] <wherebugsgo> IMO [21:24] <wherebugsgo> and then doesn't do anything about it [21:24] <wherebugsgo> is insta scum [21:24] <wherebugsgo> you seem to be completely apathetic [21:24] <chaosers> i am doing somthing about it [21:24] <wherebugsgo> what, exactly? [21:24] <chaosers> i talk to gm [21:24] <chaosers> ed [21:24] <chaosers> about getting him to replace me [21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM? [21:25] <chaosers> but that's outsie the game [21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM is not hosting this game lol [21:25] <chaosers> yeah [21:25] <chaosers> but he said [21:25] <wherebugsgo> and he's not able to play either [21:25] <chaosers> he's in charge [21:25] <chaosers> of somestuff [21:25] <chaosers> yeah Other people who would make a good lynch today: sandroba prplhz People who need to die at some point: Radfield Meapak People who are scummy: supersoft wiggles arctocod People who are null or just plain unreadable atm: Mig Syllogism Jimbo Scamp Jackal hiro Node Everyone else is some combination of null/town to me atm. There are a few players I haven't really talked to yet and am not yet concerned about. These players I expect to either be modkilled or to be relevant issues later in the game. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5aDIf.jpg) HOLD IT After talking a lot privately with multitudes of players I have learned there is a lot of dissatisfaction with those running at the moment. Although I still feel like jimbo is the best option out of the current canidates I thought I would give everyone another option. I do not have past games to reference, nor do I have vast connections built up after many games played here. i also dont have a gamebreaking plan, or 100% town reads. But what I do have is the ability to be a clear minded, transparent mayor. while i dont post as much as others, and my posts are always doomed to fall on the beginning and ends of pages, I try to be active as much as possible in IRC, and the posts that I do make have only one agenda, achieve the victory condition of the town. So vote GreYMisT, I will do my absolute best to win with a town united, and the scum fallen. If you have any questions for me at all, please feel free to ask me in thread, IRC, or through PMs. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4351 Posts
On October 15 2011 11:09 chaoser wrote: Ok, so since no one else wants to talk about it, I'll talk about it. Scum Hunting. I am horrible at picking plans and I'm horrible at talking about elections. The one thing I'm good at is scum hunting. I'm willing to lynch DropBear off his horrible Framer idea and then his defense for not letting it get banned. His logic is weak as fuck for his defense: [13:23] <DropBear> you guys need to think outside the box [13:23] <DropBear> there are 43% mafia in this game [13:24] <DropBear> i will be negating them [13:24] <DropBear> it is easy [13:24] <DropBear> i simply dont use my role the first couple of days [13:24] <DropBear> and use it later on when there are strong suspects [13:24] <DropBear> and redirect their actions [13:24] <kitaman27_> how do we know you're not using your role? [13:25] <chaoser> what makes you think you'll survive the first couple of days? [13:25] <chaoser> what makes you think you won't be roleblocked? [13:25] <mudkip> nobody sees the third party but you say you are [13:25] <chaoser> and then we're fucked [13:25] <kitaman27_> you could be masking scum as town and we would never know [13:25] <chaoser> cause do we believe you were actually roleblocked [13:25] <chaoser> or that you are lying [13:25] <mudkip> and if you dont get it should we just innately believe you [13:25] <chaoser> if you say you were thief-ed then what? [13:25] <chaoser> what about role swap? [13:25] <mudkip> theres too many things that can go wrong with town choosing framer [13:25] <chaoser> how are you goign to stop those? [13:26] <DropBear> ok [13:26] <DropBear> lets say i pick doctor [13:26] <DropBear> what happens if i get theifed? [13:26] <DropBear> or roleswapped? [13:26] <DropBear> the same fucking thing lol [13:26] <chaoser> if you pick doctor you wouln't be fucking claiming it in thread [13:26] <DropBear> what happens if i choose cupid? [13:32] <DropBear> kita [13:32] <DropBear> where does it say [13:32] <DropBear> that mafia kp is not redirected [13:32] <chaoser> i just posted [13:32] <chaoser> in thread [13:32] <DropBear> oh [13:32] <DropBear> thanks [13:32] <DropBear> well then fuck framer lol [13:33] <DropBear> that was the whole idea i had [13:33] <DropBear> fuck i gotta choose something different now -_- [13:33] <kitaman27_> the purpose of you taking it was for role denail [13:33] <kitaman27_> not because it was good for town Kita first introduced the idea for framer to be picked to deny it to mafia/honesty check. Dropbear quotes it and immediately says he wants to do it. I suggest that if he picks it that we should ban it from him to get it out of the game and immediately he is very much against it when it's a very protown thing to do. He then uses shitty logic and doesn't give up until the final real reason (redirecting KP) is shown to be impossible. Dude I was asking about framer before alignments went out. Filter me. I wanted to be able to redirect mafia kp. Role denial is great in theory but in practice ridiculous there is almost 50% scum. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Another person I would support for office would be Foolishness. As of now he is not running, and I would not like to split the vote. However, I will support GreYMisT/Foolishness for the two elected offices and no one else, unless I am given ample reason to believe why neither of these players should be there. I encourage you all to vote GreYMisT/Foolishness so we have two townies who are viable candidates. Radfield and Mig are sub-par candidates in comparison. Jimbo is not bad, but it is unclear whether or not he is a good candidate for elected office. Also, he is #3 on the draft list and I don't think it'd be a great idea to put someone that high on the draft list in office when we aren't all sure of whether he is town or not. In the interest of getting one of these players elected I will not vote Foolishness unless significant numbers of people pull their votes off Radfield and Mig. At least one of these two players needs to be in office IMO, and that's better than voting them both before one of them has gained ground. For those aforementioned reasons, ##vote GreYMisT for Mayor! If anyone has questions regarding my logic or why I think GreYMisT/Foolishness should be in office, feel free to PM me. Also, I would highly suggest all the players in the game PM these two players if you have not done so already. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4351 Posts
I'm not happy with the majority of candidates as we speak. Several of them are talking up their skills while going out of their way to avoid showing them in this game specifically (chaoser, meapak, mig). I was going to vote kenpachi but he seems to have dropped out. Greymist it is! Kenpachi I urge you to get involved again! Would love you as pardoner. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On October 14 2011 13:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm going to prioritize my vote based on who the mayor will lynch day 1, and the candidates position in the draft order (Alongside filtering out people who seem scummy of course). The draft order thing is because if the person is scum, they are less likely to have a top tier role, and therefore can't abuse their power to the same extent. Any candidates seeking my vote should provide this information  On October 15 2011 05:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote: At this point in time, my top three likely votes are for wiggles/radfield/jimbo. If you were on that list, please publicly state two things for me. The first being who you would lynch right now and why, and the second is if you could choose mayor and pardoner now, excluding yourself, who would they be and why? As for mayor. It's still between wiggles/radfield/jimbo, leaning on wiggles because he's the only one to have answered to both of these posts in the thread, and against jimbo because of his high spot in the drafting. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Dropbear I really don't like your logic. How can you say that about "several" of the current candidates and then vote for Greymist? | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Greymist who are you going to lynch and who do you want as pardoner if you are elected mayor? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On October 15 2011 15:52 Scamp wrote: WBG why are you so sure that Foolishness is town? Dropbear I really don't like your logic. How can you say that about "several" of the current candidates and then vote for Greymist? Through PMs, basically. Primarily the same reasons I believe GreYMisT is town. If you'd like to find out for yourself you can PM Foolishness yourself. I also think he'd be a good candidate for mayor because he's so damn low on the draft pick list. It's unlikely that he has a role that would be really dangerous for town in an elected position, even as scum. Foolishness generally makes a really good scumhunter by day 2 or 3, and he'll do that regardless of alignment IMO because of the nature of this game. However, he IS townie to me and so I believe he deserves this position more than anyone who had committed their candidacies earlier. The only other player I feel so strongly about atm is GreYMisT. AFAIK no one actually thinks GreYMisT is scum. Foolishness I don't know what people think about, but it'd be useful for them to PM him. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On October 15 2011 15:50 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm up for putting Greymist in office, If his answer these is satisfactory I think he'd be best as pardoner, because that's the more powerful role of the two. As for mayor. It's still between wiggles/radfield/jimbo, leaning on wiggles because he's the only one to have answered to both of these posts in the thread, and against jimbo because of his high spot in the drafting. The day is only halfway done, but if it were to stop right now and I was elected I would lynch Chaoser. a number of things about his play have set me off. Most of my reasoning comes from the early stages of the game, where we were discussing plans. If you notice he tries to find holes in almost every plan, rather than providing solutions or a plan of his own. In fact he presents very few original ideas or concepts at all. overall, this is not the chaoser i knew in LOTR and WW. I also agree with other points brought up about him, and would love to see him respond to these. As for your second question, out of the current canidates I would put jimbo as mayor and Mig as pardoner if i had to choose right now. My reasoning for Jimbo i have already expressed earlier in the thread, and while admittadly the whole mig/sandro/syllo connection does make me a bit uneasy, Mig and the rest of the town i think agrees that the pardoner should only use his power to change the vote if it is being rigged/bought. If he is scum we just end him if he misuses this. his post about what he would do as pardoner I agree with as well. I hope this answered your questions. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Greymist what did WBG PM you about? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On October 15 2011 16:15 Scamp wrote: Oh sweet. In PMs he's town. Yes that's convincing. Greymist what did WBG PM you about? Basically the mayoral race, current scumreads, the like In fact, your name came up once or twice, namely regarding this post: On October 14 2011 11:49 Scamp wrote: Jimbo is exactly right. Luckily there's not much time left so everyone's prolly sent in their picks already. The reality is that there are 12 mafia and 16 townies. That is an absurdly ridiculous ratio. If I were mafia I'd take whatever kills as much as possible and just start massacring everything. The only way the town can win is if the mafia shoot each other. If the mafia families suck then the town is screwed. (Actually, the last multiple-mafia-family game I was in ended in a tie thanks to late modkills and my medical prowess.) I really hope the discussion caused mafia members to try to take investigative roles. I refuse to believe i am the only one who receives creeps from this post. instead of talking about what the town needs to do, you basically say "well, I guess we just sit back and pray we don't die boys, oh and this is how scum should play." How can a player who is supposed to play from a pro town perspective post something that is so anti-town in every way imaginable? I have yet to see such a defeatist attitude in any post in the thread to date. In fact all of your posts share a similar feel to them. In light of this do you have any original thoughts regarding the state of the game? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
why are you never in IRC? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
If you still have gripes about Jimbo then it's Greymist/Foolishness. Yes I'm fine being in office if people will have me. Not dying night 1 would be a nice change of pace for me. As usual, hit me up on PMs/skype/AIM/irc/whatever. Posting in the thread is not very cost efficient in terms of time for this game. And gogo Ver at MLG! | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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