• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:20
CEST 06:20
KST 13:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic3Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO8 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
NA Team League 6/8/2025 [ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 27444 users

[Patch 3.05.2: April Fools] League of Legends General Disc…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 113 Next
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 02 2013 20:20 GMT
#621
On April 03 2013 05:17 thenexusp wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23786-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-4-2-2013
Massive sejuani changes incoming
New lore for sejuani and trundle. Trundle has massively different lore.

Also, they seemed to have put numbers in the wrong place. "Permafrost slows targets by 3/3/3/3/3% for 30/35/40/45/50 seconds" lol


Yeah instead of a garbage troll Trundle is going to be a frost troll. Which is kind of weird but I guess Riot figured people would play him more if he was an ice man instead of a man covered in literal shit.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#622
TrundleSubjugate [ R ]

Trundle immediately drains an enemy champion of 100/175/250% of their maximum Health and 15/20/25% of their Armor and Magic Resist, then drains them again for the total of these amounts over the next 30/60/90 seconds. Lost resistances slowly return over seconds after the drain effect ends.


250% of their maximum health... somehow I feel like these numbers are a little off.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 02 2013 20:29 GMT
#623
Trundle appears to have gotten cosmetic changes apart from the slight change on W(healing instead of tenacity).

Looks like they want sejuani to be able to stick to a squishy basically permanently. W wording is confusing though.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:44:43
April 02 2013 20:30 GMT
#624
CONGRATS YANGO
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 02 2013 20:40 GMT
#625
On April 03 2013 05:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Congrats yanger

It's about time.

Edit: MoonBear and TheYango are Banlings, in short mods of TL. Banlings are initially assigned to a respective subforum for which their background and expertise are relevant (Moon for LoL, Yango for Dota2 technically but we all revere him here in TL LoL as well). They can warn/ban any user on TL once they have their training wheels off (4-8 months)
I'm a red name, basically an admin of the TL LoL section. While we're obvious unofficial, I'm responsible for TL LoL content production.

Don't worry Neo, you're official in my heart <3
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 20:42:41
April 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#626
On April 03 2013 05:17 thenexusp wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23786-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-4-2-2013
Massive sejuani changes incoming
New lore for sejuani and trundle. Trundle has massively different lore.

Also, they seemed to have put numbers in the wrong place. "Permafrost slows targets by 3/3/3/3/3% for 30/35/40/45/50 seconds" lol

Recapping the big ones (not number changes for Morg and the like)

Sej

-Passive also gives her armor and slow resist when you hit things
-Q knocks up instead of applying frost, still stops at first champion. Does % max health, because hey, that's a thing that Tanks get nowadays.
-W reworked (sort of). Auto attack reset that does AoE damage, and then seems to do the same effect as current Sej.
-E makes all abilities and autos apply Frost (nice), but Frost doesn't slow by itself. Instead, Frost makes you vulnerable to Permafrost, which is the full slow.
-Ult needs to hit to stun (and has a scaling stun duration), only exploding and slowing if it fails to hit a target.

Trundle:

-Same Passive and Q
-W is similar, but no CC reduction, gaining extra AS compared to previously and a healing boost instead
-Pillar is the same, but 35% at all ranks rather than 25/30/35/40/45%
-R changed to % max health and 20% armor/MR instead of 15/20/25%.

Tiger stance got another buff to +3.0 AD holy crap.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35128 Posts
April 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#627
Shit, now everybody is going to play boar whore.

Where did my hipster glasses go...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 02 2013 20:45 GMT
#628
I will need to see how she actually plays out, but right now it seems like:

+ Show Spoiler +

Morello: alright team. Sejuani is not selling well and I want to change that. I decided that her kit needs to be remade. Can everyone tell me some aspect of a champion's kit that would make a champion strong?
Classik: Gap closers!
LoveMyRM: Knock ups!
Feralpony: % health damage!
Milkcow: AOE CCs!
Smash: auto resets and persistent AOE damage!
Xeph: free resistance!
Morello: great input guys. Now I want all of those things into Sejuani. Yes, all of them. Now get to work before I fire you.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:08:28
April 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#629
On April 03 2013 05:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I will need to see how she actually plays out, but right now it seems like:

+ Show Spoiler +

Morello: alright team. Sejuani is not selling well and I want to change that. I decided that her kit needs to be remade. Can everyone tell me some aspect of a champion's kit that would make a champion strong?
Classik: Gap closers!
LoveMyRM: Knock ups!
Feralpony: % health damage!
Milkcow: AOE CCs!
Smash: auto resets and persistent AOE damage!
Xeph: free resistance!
Morello: great input guys. Now I want all of those things into Sejuani. Yes, all of them. Now get to work before I fire you.

Her mana costs are pretty cheap considering cooldowns and what the spells can do.
EDIT: What the fuck, they thought her ult range needed a buff? O.o...
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 02 2013 20:53 GMT
#630
On April 03 2013 05:45 Sufficiency wrote:
I will need to see how she actually plays out, but right now it seems like:

+ Show Spoiler +

Morello: alright team. Sejuani is not selling well and I want to change that. I decided that her kit needs to be remade. Can everyone tell me some aspect of a champion's kit that would make a champion strong?
Classik: Gap closers!
LoveMyRM: Knock ups!
Feralpony: % health damage!
Milkcow: AOE CCs!
Smash: auto resets and persistent AOE damage!
Xeph: free resistance!
Morello: great input guys. Now I want all of those things into Sejuani. Yes, all of them. Now get to work before I fire you.

Yeah it seems they really took a "kitchen sink" approach with these buffs.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:10:26
April 02 2013 20:58 GMT
#631
On April 03 2013 05:28 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
TrundleSubjugate [ R ]

Trundle immediately drains an enemy champion of 100/175/250% of their maximum Health and 15/20/25% of their Armor and Magic Resist, then drains them again for the total of these amounts over the next 30/60/90 seconds. Lost resistances slowly return over seconds after the drain effect ends.


250% of their maximum health... somehow I feel like these numbers are a little off.

Put away the % and it's his current numbers. Maybe they want it to scale too rather than be a flat heal. It's been updated, it's 10/12.5/15% of max health (total 20/25/30 at the end of the spell). That's pretty strong considering the rest of hit kit is all physical damage.
I dislike the removal of Tenacity from his W. It was an integral part of his "trolliness" as a jungler: being slippery thanks to his MS buff, Tenacity and the pillar, even when caught in the enemy jungler. Kinda like Mundo can kite and run using his W for Tenacity, slow from Q and if needed regen+MS buff from R. Increased healing is just a fancy way of saying "your passive is a little less useless and you heal marginally more from your ult if you use W right before" or rather "build lifesteal and be sturdy". I don't think it's the right direction considering Trundle's usual gameplay. :/
His new lore is fucking trash, utterly generic, no particularity, nothing. "There are trolls in the cold, they rarely use their brains instead of their fists" and "Trundle uses his brains to fool his kin because they are as gullible as 5-years olds" is pretty much all there is to it, added with "he's under orders from the Ice Witch". Cool. Neat. F****** empty piece of garbage.

Yeah, they used neat names to "recycle" his kit with his new theme, but it doesn't come together as well as it does with his current theme.

Sejuani's Q is... wtf. I can understand the knock-up, since with her passive the cast is already a setup for a slow in itself. But a knock-up, with %max health damage? That's a recipe for disaster.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#632
On April 03 2013 05:42 Requizen wrote:
-Same Passive and Q

Q has a buff compared to live. It's 1.4x AD damage as opposed to 0.8/0.9/1.0/1.1/1.2 on live.
Moderator
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:07:44
April 02 2013 21:07 GMT
#633
On April 02 2013 13:34 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 13:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Lux had some pretty significant changes to here mana costs over the summer that helped her see more play
Base Mana Regen per 5 seconds increased to 6.6 from 5.6
Light Binding
Mana cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/75/90/105/120
Finales Funkeln
Mana cost reduced to 100 at all ranks from 100/150/200

Ult 100 mana is pretty stupid for such a spammable ultimate, as everyone's said already it makes single lane pushing completely impossible and even for splitpushing, well she can just run to the lane that requires clearing during the ulti cooldown. I wouldn't mind her having just this thing if the rest of her kit was mediocre, but she also has an incredible AoE shield(double for herself) and some very powerful spells considering their range and control.

She might still not be op considering how the meta is but she clearly is the best defensive(base-wise) AP champion in the lategame.


Vayne would actually be much stronger if her E didn't have such a gigantic cast time. It would even make harrassing with E-> auto canceling and reactionary E-ing possible. As is, you will E someone near max range and they have the time to walk up to you and hit you before it goes off.

Not to mention a huge loss of autoattack damage. If it worked like cait E so that you could E -> Q back during the startup with Vayne for example, it also would be far smoother.


v He obviously means that Chuuper is a great mid

She's getting +10 sec to her level 3 ulti now though. (80/65/50 instead of 80/60/40) So you can reduce it to JUST BARELY 30 seconds per wave now.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#634
On April 03 2013 05:17 thenexusp wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23786-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-4-2-2013
Massive sejuani changes incoming
New lore for sejuani and trundle. Trundle has massively different lore.

Also, they seemed to have put numbers in the wrong place. "Permafrost slows targets by 3/3/3/3/3% for 30/35/40/45/50 seconds" lol


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:43:57
April 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#635
On April 03 2013 05:17 thenexusp wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23786-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-4-2-2013
Massive sejuani changes incoming
New lore for sejuani and trundle. Trundle has massively different lore.

Also, they seemed to have put numbers in the wrong place. "Permafrost slows targets by 3/3/3/3/3% for 30/35/40/45/50 seconds" lol

Meh. With merc treads it's only what? 33 seconds of slow at max rank?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#636
Sej just feels like they're reworking the entire champion when her only real problem is that W is a useless skill that you have to level for the sake of jungling.

Her other 3 skills are all very good.
Moderator
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:26:48
April 02 2013 21:20 GMT
#637
Meh. Too hard to give people the opportunity to make choices. "Let's make E a one-point wonder, and even though we gutted W, give it some scaling so that everyone has to go R>Q>W>E rather than have to choose between W and E who both scale well!"
Fuck this.

And give him back Tenacity, he's got a pillar, a MS buff and a heal, he's meant to be hard to kill because hard to catch/stick too, not "longer to kill because he lifesteals more with his vamp scepter when he fights you 1v4 knowing he can't win but being too slowed".


On a totally different note I love Wukong but I hate his animations from the deepth of my guts. It's so easy to just run out of range of his Q, or flash/pool/dash/whatever when he starts his aa or Q animation... even an aa->Q to burst down an opponent can get you killed whereas it'd have worked on other aa-reset champs because the wind-up frames are so frickingly LONG. Damn. "Slippery" Monkey King is more rigid than Robocop when it comes to hitting stuff. :[
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 02 2013 21:31 GMT
#638
i've been playing some sej lately. she's okay. very niche pick when you have a comp that needs long-range safe amumu ult. i don't know why an entire remake would be necessary. maybe if they frontloaded northern winds (her W) i think she'd be fine. i also think her dash should go through heroes instead of stopping. applying permafrost is such a good feeling though, it's like zed's ult. but frosty.

Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
April 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#639
Division 1 is still a pain to play in, you chain a fw good games that you win and as soon as you get to 80 you get stopped, have a bad day and you are risking demotion :/
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 02 2013 21:38 GMT
#640
jeez, instead of releasing a champ every 2 weeks, they release one every month and rework like 3 champs per week now?



And whats with the big egos:
I dont like thic champ, so instead of chaning one skill to make the champion viable and strong in his original form and flavour, ill just order my team to change EVERYTHING. Cause if i dont like it, noone does, i work at Riot, im always right.


Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 113 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
02:00
LiuLi 40 / Enki Pro Series 5
Liquipedia
Online Event
00:00
LATAM SC2 League: Semifinals
Liquipedia
GSL
23:00
Replay Cast
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 225
ROOTCatZ 214
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2513
Sea 2089
PianO 292
Leta 98
Noble 40
Terrorterran 19
Icarus 10
Dota 2
monkeys_forever547
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 849
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K839
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor148
Other Games
summit1g10832
C9.Mang01011
hungrybox601
WinterStarcraft310
ViBE167
ToD149
Maynarde118
Mew2King92
CosmosSc2 20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1115
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH309
• Hupsaiya 79
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki13
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5479
• Lourlo968
• Stunt279
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
5h 10m
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
5h 40m
Replay Cast
19h 40m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 6h
OSC
1d 8h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 22h
SOOP
2 days
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Cheesadelphia
2 days
[ Show More ]
CSO Cup
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.