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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#581
On April 03 2013 03:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 18:52 TheKefka wrote:
gz on becoming a hammer yango^^

What's a banling btw? It's sort of a "local mod", like Neo is to the LoL section, right? So that means Yango became mod for the DotA2 section?


Neo isn't a banling anymore.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:20:37
April 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#582
On April 03 2013 03:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 18:52 TheKefka wrote:
gz on becoming a hammer yango^^

What's a banling btw? It's sort of a "local mod", like Neo is to the LoL section, right? So that means Yango became mod for the DotA2 section?


No, banlings are straight up "moderators." Neo is an admin, which gives him dominion over TL LoL, but Moonbear, and (likely) Yango will be moderating the whole of TL. So there won't be much to do for TL LoL, but certainly plenty to annihilate from SC2 LR threads and DotA2 GD.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 02 2013 18:22 GMT
#583
On April 03 2013 03:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:17 Alaric wrote:
On April 02 2013 18:52 TheKefka wrote:
gz on becoming a hammer yango^^

What's a banling btw? It's sort of a "local mod", like Neo is to the LoL section, right? So that means Yango became mod for the DotA2 section?


No, banlings are straight up "moderators." Neo is an admin, which gives him dominion over TL LoL, but Moonbear, and (likely) Yango will be moderating the whole of TL. So there won't be much to do for TL LoL, but certainly plenty to annihilate from SC2 LR threads and DotA2 GD.


but Neo can still ban people from other areas like KMD or starcraft forums right? I'm slightly confused because your explanation looks like yango and moonbear are higher on the TL ladder than neo or I am just misunderstanding sth^^
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#584
hey guys i will officially announce the news
pr0lly has left for complexity and we are seeking a new mid for both the IPL6 replacement on april 9th, and the LCS up/down on may 10th

i'm not very happy right now and we'll be going to reddit if you have questions i'd prefer if you asked them there

http://velocityesports.com/pr0lly-replaces-chuuper-as-a-starter-for-complexity/
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 02 2013 18:25 GMT
#585
Think how it works is Neo is like god of TL LoL but he can still go do what underlings do in other places on TL. He's just above doing such boring work.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:33:29
April 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#586
On April 03 2013 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
hey guys i will officially announce the news
pr0lly has left for complexity and we are seeking a new mid for both the IPL6 replacement on april 9th, and the LCS up/down on may 10th

i'm not very happy right now and we'll be going to reddit if you have questions i'd prefer if you asked them there

http://velocityesports.com/pr0lly-replaces-chuuper-as-a-starter-for-complexity/


Did he explain his reasonings for leaving instead of waiting like two months for when Velocity likely would've qualified for LCS? What mids are you guys considering or what mid laners would you consider ideal for your team?

edit:
fuck nvm I'm the worst at reading and read "there" as "here"
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:29:14
April 02 2013 18:28 GMT
#587
On April 03 2013 03:22 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 03 2013 03:17 Alaric wrote:
On April 02 2013 18:52 TheKefka wrote:
gz on becoming a hammer yango^^

What's a banling btw? It's sort of a "local mod", like Neo is to the LoL section, right? So that means Yango became mod for the DotA2 section?


No, banlings are straight up "moderators." Neo is an admin, which gives him dominion over TL LoL, but Moonbear, and (likely) Yango will be moderating the whole of TL. So there won't be much to do for TL LoL, but certainly plenty to annihilate from SC2 LR threads and DotA2 GD.


but Neo can still ban people from other areas like KMD or starcraft forums right? I'm slightly confused because your explanation looks like yango and moonbear are higher on the TL ladder than neo or I am just misunderstanding sth^^


That's a good question and hopefully Neo will answer it. =P From what he's (and MB's) explained that I've heard is that Neo runs everything TL LoL related, and, as such, isn't required to have to do ban work throughout TL. That is part of the job description for standard banlings.

Basically, the ability to ban 'cross TL is a pain not a privilege. I'm sure Neo CAN do it, but he doesn't have to. =D

Edit: glgl gtrsrs. That's rough buddy.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#588
The original Banling origination thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=135850

essentially created to help deal with the influx SC2 brought to the site they are essentially the grunts dealing with all the trench work of moderating places not as ideal as the LoL subsection.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#589
On April 03 2013 02:25 Letmelose wrote:
I really fear the combination of,

Top: PDD
Jungle: ClearLove
Middle: Zz1tai
AD Carry: Uzi
Support: Fzzf

I feel like the Chinese players in general have by far the strongest laning phase out of any of the regions. Uzi was literally the scariest thing I've ever seen, and I feel odd whenever people mention Weixiao as untouchable AD carry amongst his peers. It's true that Weixiao is a cut above most of the famous AD carries, but I genuinely felt all hope drain from me when I watched Uzi just stomp both PraY and Imp to the ground. I mean these guys went toe-to-toe with the likes of Bebe, or even came out on top, and are generally regarded as the best AD carries Korea has to offer.

Funny thing is, even if China takes that extra-spot for S3 World Championship, I don't think the rest of the world will get to see Uzi play unless he moves to a more competitive team. If Uzi doesn't get voted in for this All Stars tournament, many people will only talk about Weixiao whenever the topic of the best AD carry comes up.

I like the following line-up for Korea, knowing full well it'll never materialize since they don't have the backing of the masses,

Top: Expession
Jungle: inSec
Middle: Faker
AD Carry: Piglet
Support: PoohManDu

I just want Expession to showcase his skills to the world because his team will never surmount to anything in the near future. I'm not sure if inSec is the best jungler in the world, but he sure is the most entertaining out of the players I've seen. Ambition is probably the smarter choice for the mid-lane, but I feel Faker should be given a chance. Easyhoon would be a fun pick as well in the mid-lane.

Imp once mentioned that Piglet and PoohManDu are the strongest bottom-lane duo in Korea right now, so it'll be fun to watch them try their luck against Weixiao (I'm predicting Uzi won't get to represent his region). Weixiao slaughtered them during his ventures in the Korean solo-que, so here's there chance to take revenge.

However, I'm guessing the following line-up will represent the Korean scene,

Top: Shy
Jungle: inSec
Middle: Ambition
AD Carry: PraY
Support: Madlife

Boring.


Can I has that VOD of Uzi vs pray/imp?

Top is going to be maknoon no?
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 02 2013 18:38 GMT
#590
On April 03 2013 03:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:17 Alaric wrote:
On April 02 2013 18:52 TheKefka wrote:
gz on becoming a hammer yango^^

What's a banling btw? It's sort of a "local mod", like Neo is to the LoL section, right? So that means Yango became mod for the DotA2 section?


No, banlings are straight up "moderators." Neo is an admin, which gives him dominion over TL LoL, but Moonbear, and (likely) Yango will be moderating the whole of TL. So there won't be much to do for TL LoL, but certainly plenty to annihilate from SC2 LR threads and DotA2 GD.


Even mighty Yango should not venture into SC2 threads, especially LR ones.

Maybe it's a lot better now.
Stuck.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#591
On April 03 2013 02:44 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 02:41 xes wrote:
On April 03 2013 02:38 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 03 2013 02:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 03 2013 02:21 LaM wrote:
I really feel like the TL Asian scene fanboyism is a bit over the top. Right now, the Korean/SEA/and Chinese scenes are stronger than NA and to a lesser degree Europe. No doubt about it. However, they have not shown themselves to be worlds apart. In addition, LCS only serves to close the gap between the scenes by providing a more structured environment for NA/European scenes to practice with, something that brings them more in line with the eSports infrastructure of the East. And again, mixing up players into All Star teams helps close the gap between regions/teams by erasing much of the team skill that the Asian teams have built through incredibly amounts of practice.

I don't know if it's the Starcraft "Koreans are god" bias seeping in or just the old "we are holders of elite knowledge/opinions" TL mindset, but I think people are universally and hivemind(ally?) over-exaggerating the skill of the Asian scene.

Even if the skill gap is exaggerated, KR has the highest concentration of top tier teams. Frost/Blaze, KT B, and Najin Sword are four top tier teams. NA doesn't have anyone of that caliber, EU has Gambit, and CH has WE and SAE has TPA. Just the amount of high caliber teams is what I find so astounding about KR.

I feel like we should also put EG on that tier if we're looking at past performances. It was a while ago (they're not in form currently but they've admitted that and are trying to change their playstyle) but they did place 2nd in OGN Champions.


The point remains that NA has a pretty abysmal record against the Rest of the World.

Yeah but it's not the case for EG, Gambit, or even Fnatic. I think those three EU team are actually good enough to play on par with most Asian teams, especially since the beginning of LCS EU because it's gives them constant training.

Yeah I was speaking of recent performances so that's why I've excluded EG since they are kind of slumping. Also yeah Fnatic probably deserves to be up there. Their run at IPL5 was damn impressive. Also Yellowstar has been doing much better than the first couple weeks of the LCS, although Rekkles was still pretty damn good.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 02 2013 18:39 GMT
#592
Here's the hierarchy as I know it:

Dark Blue/With Administrator Text next to name: That's the highest level. These guys run TL. People like Hot_Bid, Plexa, Chill, etc...

Red Names: Moderators with an additional role. Maybe they are writers, or TLPD contributors, or run a section of the forums. People like Neo, tree_hugger, etc..

Hammers: Moderators/banlings. Same powers of moderation as Red Names, but without any additional staff duties like running a subforum or TLPD or whatever. People like Yango, moon_bear, incontrol, etc...

Blue Names: Cool dudes who post good stuff and are established community members.

Stars: Great posters.

And then the rest of us. Also random icons thrown in for TLPD people, writers, etc...
Anything is Possible
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 02 2013 18:49 GMT
#593
I think its funny these people on reddit saying "Don't send an all EG team to allstars if you want EG in Worlds." As if a haphazardly thrown together team of players who probably speak different languages will do better than 1 cohesive team.

If NA really wanted that spot they would just send all of Curse/Dig, and NA is more incestuous and without the language barriers of EU.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#594
On April 03 2013 03:49 cLutZ wrote:
I think its funny these people on reddit saying "Don't send an all EG team to allstars if you want EG in Worlds." As if a haphazardly thrown together team of players who probably speak different languages will do better than 1 cohesive team.

If NA really wanted that spot they would just send all of Curse/Dig, and NA is more incestuous and without the language barriers of EU.

EU should just send gambit; ez win npnp.
TSM should be begging for everyone to vote the actual best players; because they're the ones more at risk not making it to worlds. lol.
liftlift > tsm
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 02 2013 18:55 GMT
#595
On April 03 2013 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
hey guys i will officially announce the news
pr0lly has left for complexity and we are seeking a new mid for both the IPL6 replacement on april 9th, and the LCS up/down on may 10th

i'm not very happy right now and we'll be going to reddit if you have questions i'd prefer if you asked them there

http://velocityesports.com/pr0lly-replaces-chuuper-as-a-starter-for-complexity/



Who leaves a team a week before a major match?

Not very professional.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 19:00:41
April 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#596
On April 03 2013 03:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:49 cLutZ wrote:
I think its funny these people on reddit saying "Don't send an all EG team to allstars if you want EG in Worlds." As if a haphazardly thrown together team of players who probably speak different languages will do better than 1 cohesive team.

If NA really wanted that spot they would just send all of Curse/Dig, and NA is more incestuous and without the language barriers of EU.

EU should just send gambit; ez win npnp.
TSM should be begging for everyone to vote the actual best players; because they're the ones more at risk not making it to worlds. lol.


Isn't worlds not for like a really long time? Like we have three more weeks of LCS, regional play-offs, then another ten weeks of LCS?

So there's very little logic behind statements like, "EG or TSM should be hoping for that extra slot," since really anything can happen in the course of like six months. Copenhagen Wolves or Marn could end up as the #1 seed from their respective regions. It wasn't much more than a few months that CLG.EU sprung up and started winning against international teams. Or M5.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#597
On April 03 2013 03:35 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 02:25 Letmelose wrote:
I really fear the combination of,

Top: PDD
Jungle: ClearLove
Middle: Zz1tai
AD Carry: Uzi
Support: Fzzf

I feel like the Chinese players in general have by far the strongest laning phase out of any of the regions. Uzi was literally the scariest thing I've ever seen, and I feel odd whenever people mention Weixiao as untouchable AD carry amongst his peers. It's true that Weixiao is a cut above most of the famous AD carries, but I genuinely felt all hope drain from me when I watched Uzi just stomp both PraY and Imp to the ground. I mean these guys went toe-to-toe with the likes of Bebe, or even came out on top, and are generally regarded as the best AD carries Korea has to offer.

Funny thing is, even if China takes that extra-spot for S3 World Championship, I don't think the rest of the world will get to see Uzi play unless he moves to a more competitive team. If Uzi doesn't get voted in for this All Stars tournament, many people will only talk about Weixiao whenever the topic of the best AD carry comes up.

I like the following line-up for Korea, knowing full well it'll never materialize since they don't have the backing of the masses,

Top: Expession
Jungle: inSec
Middle: Faker
AD Carry: Piglet
Support: PoohManDu

I just want Expession to showcase his skills to the world because his team will never surmount to anything in the near future. I'm not sure if inSec is the best jungler in the world, but he sure is the most entertaining out of the players I've seen. Ambition is probably the smarter choice for the mid-lane, but I feel Faker should be given a chance. Easyhoon would be a fun pick as well in the mid-lane.

Imp once mentioned that Piglet and PoohManDu are the strongest bottom-lane duo in Korea right now, so it'll be fun to watch them try their luck against Weixiao (I'm predicting Uzi won't get to represent his region). Weixiao slaughtered them during his ventures in the Korean solo-que, so here's there chance to take revenge.

However, I'm guessing the following line-up will represent the Korean scene,

Top: Shy
Jungle: inSec
Middle: Ambition
AD Carry: PraY
Support: Madlife

Boring.


Can I has that VOD of Uzi vs pray/imp?

Top is going to be maknoon no?


You can try here I guess. There's this one match of Uzi where he played versus Positive Energy, and Uzi's Graves just straight-out humiliates the living daylight of Devil's Sivir. That's the match I first discovered Uzi. I mean, Devil is a solid AD carry in his own right, but Uzi just outclassed him in every single way possible. I'm guessing more informed posters could recommend you more matches, but that's all I have for now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/LoLeventVoDs/comments/19dzs9/gigabyte_starswar_league_season_2/

I think it will come down to either Maknoon or Shy. They are probably the most popular top-laners in Korea. I don't think Maknoon will be picked because he has been getting ravaged by every single top-laner in the scene recently, and he has his share of haters. I personally think Expession should get the vote since his team sucks, and this All Stars tournament shouldn't just be about the biggest names of the world, it should also be a stage where talented players from each region can showcase their skill to the world. Shy and Maknoon already had tons of exposure, and there are other top-laners who are just as good as they are, but haven't had the opportunity to display their skills.

I actually voted for Bjersen for this reason. sOAZ, Bjersen, Diamondprox, Yellowstar and Edward were my picks for the EU scene. I didn't vote for the NA circuit because I never watch their games.
TL+ Member
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#598
On April 03 2013 03:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
hey guys i will officially announce the news
pr0lly has left for complexity and we are seeking a new mid for both the IPL6 replacement on april 9th, and the LCS up/down on may 10th

i'm not very happy right now and we'll be going to reddit if you have questions i'd prefer if you asked them there

http://velocityesports.com/pr0lly-replaces-chuuper-as-a-starter-for-complexity/


Did he explain his reasonings for leaving instead of waiting like two months for when Velocity likely would've qualified for LCS? What mids are you guys considering or what mid laners would you consider ideal for your team?

edit:
fuck nvm I'm the worst at reading and read "there" as "here"


actually it looks like complexity even gobbled up the site views we would have gotten from this by going to reddit first
real class acts

so i don't mind answering here. i'll probably just rage out on reddit later

he explained nothing to us. we were not informed at all. yesterday we beat texas A&M 2-0 to get to go to the IPL6 qualifier and pr0lly immediately logged off. we got a skype message a few minutes later saying starting today he would be coL's starter and would not be eligible to play with us any more. that since we had 2 lans coming up, mids would 'surely flock to us.' as far as i can see it was a short-sighted money grab, as we almost definitely would have knocked coL out of the LCS if we faced them. with pr0lly on coL it swings the matchup more in their favor but i don't think their bot lane can compete with ours and my extremely biased mind says cris will shit on nickwu too. it will be really tasty if we get to play them and win.

considering several mid laners. can't really talk about that yet but a decision will obviously be made ASAP since we have a LAN in a week :\

this is an open invitation to PM me why you'd be a good LCS-caliber mid, btw.

On April 03 2013 03:55 Crownlol wrote:
Who leaves a team a week before a major match?

Not very professional.


yeah, i'm reeling pretty hard because of how close pr0lly and i were, yet he decided not to bring it up with me or ask me for advice or input at all. he's also ignored all calls, texts, and PMs since.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2013 19:05 GMT
#599
Man I'll be your mid I'd be Challenger tier already if I wasn't stuck in ELO hell with feeders and noobs.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 02 2013 19:08 GMT
#600
On April 03 2013 04:05 Requizen wrote:
Man I'll be your mid I'd be Challenger tier already if I wasn't stuck in ELO hell with feeders and noobs.


lol scrub plz

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