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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 09:47 GMT
#561
On September 07 2011 18:46 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:44 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:44 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:43 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:42 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:41 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:33 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)Kyrix
vs
(Z)Check
on
Dual Sight

2:00
10 pool on the way for Kyrix, Check with the safe 14 pool.

3:50
Baneling nest completes for Kyrix while Check expands then cancels it.
Edit: 4:30 banes on teh way.)

5:00
Banelings stroll into Checks base right by the queen and the workers immediately scatter. Only a few workers go down and most banelings dive into the queen and spawning pool. Check loses his queen but the drone difference is minimal.

7:00
Roaches are coming out for Check, both players are still on 1 base but Kyrix has the drone lead now.

7:40
Check Expands to his natural.
8:10
Kyrix expands as well.

9:00
+1 ranged attack immediately starts upon evo completion for Check and he starts droning.
Kyrix completes metabolic boost and lays down a roach warren.

11:00
Both players roaching heavily. Check pushing out onto the map.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 09:48:50
September 07 2011 09:47 GMT
#562
So wierd.
I keep on running into people who like cows. I found out one of my close friends absolutely loves cows and another one of my friends finds them cute.

Also what happened to ZvZs ending instantly t.t

edit: EHAN POST TIMINGUH
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
September 07 2011 09:47 GMT
#563
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against a fast 3rd zerg, but MC did it highly wrong


1) mc made too many pheonix. really its only valuable if someone is holding a gun to the zergs head and telling that zerg to make mutalisks. if the zerg doesnt make mutas over investing into phoenix is bad

2) stargate openings are fine. make 1, maybe 2 void rays, dont produce extra pheonix unless you scout zero spores. scout zero spores = make more pheonix to murder queens. scout some spores = STOP MAKING ANY MORE PHEONIX. go into collossi. mc made too many pheonix.

3) if you ARE doing the 2base thing, you mass collossi, period. mc got mass zealots (bad), mc tried to get some archons (bad waste of 900 gas).

4) when you are doing that 2base thing you gotta mass the fukk out of stalkers and collossi, with some zealots. mc wasted like 1400 gas in getting charge+templars+archons

5) by massing collossi after you have a few you are strong enough to take/hold your third nueral parasite isnt that great of a counter if you hide behind your cannons

6) if you do it right, you take your third at around a time where your main is 65% mined out. now you put 27 drone saturation at your 2 expansions (54 probes) plus put 22 at your main (66 probes). that is perfect saturation for 3base toss

7) your main shouldnt dry up for another few minutes. these few minutes is your time to take the fourth. nueral parasite cannot beat your collossi army if you play defensive and hide collossi behind your cannons

8) after you are on 3 bases, THAT is when you get some templar. with some storms and feedback, your army can move around the map and contest infestors/NP. at this point the protoss now has map control

9) if you sit/camp/mass on 2 bases and use the collossi strength to take your third, by 17 minutes you should be around 200food. with your third you wanna get up to 66 probes. now you have 3 bases, 66 probes, 200food. the zerg may have 6bases , but has cannot make 100 drones to mine all those bases because his army will be too weak. so the zerg at this point is limited by his food cap so he shouldnt make more than 80-90 drones or he is dumb

10) regardless, you now have 200food. if the zerg attacks you then you have defenders advantage and a larger food army because the zerg has 25 extra supply in his drones. with mass collossi you should vaporize his ground army and mass blink stalkers deal with air

11) at this point in the game it should be around 20 minutes. theres no way in hell the zerg can have much brood lords at this point as long as your scouting and reacting properly.



ugh that was a long write up. long story short MC played that very badly.

theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
September 07 2011 09:48 GMT
#564
On September 07 2011 18:47 Asha` wrote:
Big +1 roach timing inc from Check?

Got a nice window before Kyrix can get his.


Yeah.
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
September 07 2011 09:48 GMT
#565
Check fightiiiing!!~~
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 09:48 GMT
#566
On September 07 2011 18:47 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 18:46 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:44 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:44 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:43 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:42 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:41 Probe1 wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:33 Probe1 wrote:
(Z)Kyrix
vs
(Z)Check
on
Dual Sight

2:00
10 pool on the way for Kyrix, Check with the safe 14 pool.

3:50
Baneling nest completes for Kyrix while Check expands then cancels it.
Edit: 4:30 banes on teh way.)

5:00
Banelings stroll into Checks base right by the queen and the workers immediately scatter. Only a few workers go down and most banelings dive into the queen and spawning pool. Check loses his queen but the drone difference is minimal.

7:00
Roaches are coming out for Check, both players are still on 1 base but Kyrix has the drone lead now.

7:40
Check Expands to his natural.
8:10
Kyrix expands as well.

9:00
+1 ranged attack immediately starts upon evo completion for Check and he starts droning.
Kyrix completes metabolic boost and lays down a roach warren.

11:00
Both players roaching heavily. Check pushing out onto the map.

12:15
Check with double the amount of roaches and +1 vs 0/0 cleans away all of Kyrix's roaches. Kyrix gg's as the roaches begin to spit onto his drones with no units left to defend them.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 07 2011 09:48 GMT
#567
On September 07 2011 18:47 Sabu113 wrote:
So wierd.
I keep on running into people who like cows. I found out one of my close friends absolutely loves cows and another one of my friends finds them cute.

Also what happened to ZvZs ending instantly t.t

edit: EHAN POST TIMINGUH


cows taste good
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 09:49:28
September 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#568
Very nice game from Check.

Going to be interesting when he and MC play actually, I could definitely see him winning.
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
September 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#569
damn, nice attack by check.
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
September 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#570
In amongst all the MC depression, well played Check responded perfectly.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
priste
Profile Joined September 2011
United States171 Posts
September 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#571
That's the only thing I don't like about ZvZ.

We never get to see many super long games where both players have tier 3 tech.

I want to see dozens of Ultras hugging each other. ;(
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 07 2011 09:49 GMT
#572
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote:
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against a fast 3rd zerg, but MC did it highly wrong


1) mc made too many pheonix. really its only valuable if someone is holding a gun to the zergs head and telling that zerg to make mutalisks. if the zerg doesnt make mutas over investing into phoenix is bad

2) stargate openings are fine. make 1, maybe 2 void rays, dont produce extra pheonix unless you scout zero spores. scout zero spores = make more pheonix to murder queens. scout some spores = STOP MAKING ANY MORE PHEONIX. go into collossi. mc made too many pheonix.

3) if you ARE doing the 2base thing, you mass collossi, period. mc got mass zealots (bad), mc tried to get some archons (bad waste of 900 gas).

4) when you are doing that 2base thing you gotta mass the fukk out of stalkers and collossi, with some zealots. mc wasted like 1400 gas in getting charge+templars+archons

5) by massing collossi after you have a few you are strong enough to take/hold your third nueral parasite isnt that great of a counter if you hide behind your cannons

6) if you do it right, you take your third at around a time where your main is 65% mined out. now you put 27 drone saturation at your 2 expansions (54 probes) plus put 22 at your main (66 probes). that is perfect saturation for 3base toss

7) your main shouldnt dry up for another few minutes. these few minutes is your time to take the fourth. nueral parasite cannot beat your collossi army if you play defensive and hide collossi behind your cannons

8) after you are on 3 bases, THAT is when you get some templar. with some storms and feedback, your army can move around the map and contest infestors/NP. at this point the protoss now has map control

9) if you sit/camp/mass on 2 bases and use the collossi strength to take your third, by 17 minutes you should be around 200food. with your third you wanna get up to 66 probes. now you have 3 bases, 66 probes, 200food. the zerg may have 6bases , but has cannot make 100 drones to mine all those bases because his army will be too weak. so the zerg at this point is limited by his food cap so he shouldnt make more than 80-90 drones or he is dumb

10) regardless, you now have 200food. if the zerg attacks you then you have defenders advantage and a larger food army because the zerg has 25 extra supply in his drones. with mass collossi you should vaporize his ground army and mass blink stalkers deal with air

11) at this point in the game it should be around 20 minutes. theres no way in hell the zerg can have much brood lords at this point as long as your scouting and reacting properly.



ugh that was a long write up. long story short MC played that very badly.

theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.

so if you know all about protoss why aren't you a gsl champion
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 09:50:18
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#573
On September 07 2011 18:47 roymarthyup wrote:
theres nothing wrong with 2basing against a fast 3rd zerg, but MC did it highly wrong

theres nothing wrong with 2basing against losiras fast third, you just gotta do it right and use the power of collossi to take your third at around the 10 minute mark. im high masters.


Cool qualifications, MC is two time GSL champion and the highest earning player in the world.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#574
On September 07 2011 18:49 priste wrote:
That's the only thing I don't like about ZvZ.

We never get to see many super long games where both players have tier 3 tech.

I want to see dozens of Ultras hugging each other. ;(


I want to see carrier vs carrier PvP....but some things are just not gonna happen in life
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
qazadex
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia473 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#575
Has check had a game where he didn't make roaches?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#576
Poll: Recommend Kyrix vs Check ?

No (8)
 
35%

If you have time (8)
 
35%

Yes (7)
 
30%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Kyrix vs Check ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7985 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#577
that was extremely well played by check, he handled that 9 pool baneling attack brilliantly (mostly due to the rally of his 2nd overlord)
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#578
On September 07 2011 18:40 Jinsho wrote:
Check will probably win.


yo anyone wants this week's lottery numbers?
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#579
On September 07 2011 18:50 qazadex wrote:
Has check had a game where he didn't make roaches?


.....There never goes a Checkprime game without roaches. ^^
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38220 Posts
September 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#580
On September 07 2011 18:49 priste wrote:
That's the only thing I don't like about ZvZ.

We never get to see many super long games where both players have tier 3 tech.

I want to see dozens of Ultras hugging each other. ;(


Should have watched Curious vs Lucky =)

ZvZ is right up there with TvT as my favourite mirror nowadays.
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