EPTOn November 24 2011 17:48 sinani206 wrote:
i will give everyone cookies!
i will give everyone cookies!
You're not going to be the mayor, sorry, but you're terrible.
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
You're not going to be the mayor, sorry, but you're terrible. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
![[image loading]](http://wits.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/angel-trumpets-by-bradleywindy.jpg) Citizens of Liquidia: at a time when deeds are everything and words but little, it is not my intention to approach you, representatives of the city of Liquidia, more than absolutely necessary. This first time I turn to you is at the outbreak of war, the moment when, owing to the Mafia's conspiracy against peace, every attempt to reach a compromise about the the fate of Liquidia has been eliminated. The most ruthless clique of the present day who as early as yesterday had conceived a plan of devastating and, if possible, destroying Liquidia in a series of bloody murders. I come to you in the wake of recent events to issue a call to reason. Let no Liquidian deny the perils of our time. While we battle one another, divided by the petty strife of our common history, the tide of a greater conflict is turning against us, threatening to destroy all that we have accomplished. It is time for us as individuals to set aside our long-standing feuds and unite. The tides of an unwinnable war are upon us, and we must seek refuge on higher ground, lest we be swept away by the flood. The enemy attacks on all side with great strength and fierceness, and their main power, the power of deceit and trickery, will be thrown into the battle or else concentrated on the murders at night. Pressing in from every direction, the enemy attacks our communications, by which alone we can approach a solution. They sow seeds of distrust in our discussion, they send repeated waves of hostile messages, sometimes covering entire pages, to cast their spell of confusion upon the single hope that remains, upon the thread which we have for our shelter. Their goons, one of which was killed, and their roleblockers take their toll of the limited supply of specialist we have. For many days an intense struggle will reign. We have found it necessary to take measures of increasing stringency, not only against enemy scum and suspicious characters of other nature, but against Liquidians who may become a danger or a nuisance should the war continue here in Liquidia. I know there are a great many people affected by the orders which we have made who are passionate enemies of the Mafia. I am very sorry for them, but we cannot, at the present time and under the present stress, draw all the distinctions which we should like to do . If roleclaims were attempted and fierce fighting attendant upon them followed, these unfortunate people would be far better out of the way, for their own sakes as well as for ours. There is however, another class, for which feel not the slightest symptathy. The town has given us powers to put down Fifth Column activities with a strong hand, and we shall use those powers subject ot the suprevision and correction of the Town, without slightest hesitation until we are satisfied, and more than satisfied, that this malignancy in our midst has been effectively stamped out. It would be fatal for the town to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering day of Liquidia's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating lynch for freedom and safety. Today is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hoped that this town needed to blow of steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if mafia returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in Liquidia until the Mafia has been eliminated. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of Liquidia until the bright day of justice emerges. It is wisdom above all that our guilty enemies would drive from the town. To wisdom alone it is given to strengthen the prosperity of Liquidia. It is for her to guarantee to us the rewards of our courage. Let us associate wisdom, then, with all our enterprises. Let us be grave and discreet in all our deliberations, as men who are providing for the interests of Liquidia. Let us be ardent and obstinate in our anger against conspiring Mafia, imperturbable in dangers, patients in labors, terrible in striking back, modest and vigilant in successes. Let us be generious toward the good, compassionate with the unfortunate, inexorable with the evil, just toward everyone. Let us crush the impious Mafia by the grandeur of our character, even more than by strength of our arms. Let no man underrate the abiding power of Liquidia and it's citizens. The Mafia knows they will have to break us here in Liquidia or lose the war. If we can stand up to them, all of Liquidia may be free and life in the town may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the hosts, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if Liquidia and it's games play on for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour.". The time has come my fellow Liquidians, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined me. Out of the many, we shall forge an indivisible whole, capitulating only to a single throne. And from that throne, I shall watch over you! Vote Palmar for Mayor! | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
And this is why I should be voted for mayor. Credentials:
This is how I intend to run town:
In conclusion You have the opportunity to vote one of the more experienced player and one of the more successful players into office. In addition, more than almost any other veteran in this game, I have a history of being very, very active and open. None of the other true veterans in this game (veteran meaning both experienced and good), play the game with as much passion as I do. I hope you all make the right choice. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Will read up on everything (wtf 28 pages) but as a word of warning to anyone and everyone: Don't ever trust Palmar | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
A note on the other campaigns
It will be hard for town to get me into office. Along with sandroba, if he's town, I am the only player that's running so far that poses serious and very real threat to the mafia. This means that I will have vocal players who want to call me out and will not support my campaign. I promise you that I will respond to each and every criticism in sufficient detail, because not only does it help the discussion, it allows all of you to get a better read on me. Enjoy thanksgiving! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:31 youngminii wrote: Reporting in. Will read up on everything (wtf 28 pages) but as a word of warning to anyone and everyone: Don't ever trust Palmar This makes no sense. Without having acquired any prior knowledge or put any effort into your reads, there is no less reason to trust me than the other 79 players in the game. We all have the same chance of being mafia. The reason you are hesitant to trust me is either because you're mafia and know by extension that I'm town, and see me as a threat, or that you're town and you don't trust me, in which case I will throughout the course of the day provide ample reasoning as to why I should be trusted. @Syllogism, the 1st post is mostly flavor. I expect your support. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory. You have so much sway with the majority of people that if anyone actually calls you out once you have your tight rein on town, you'll get your herd to quick lynch the offender. I will be running a strict Lynch-All-Liars policy (LAL) and will push hard to enforce it. With a game this big we cannot afford townies running amok with some ridiculous plans of how lying will somehow benefit town. Do not lie, you will be held accountable. Per your policy, I will be voting for a mayor that will lynch you day 1. You dangerous, dangerous scum. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:36 Palmar wrote: This makes no sense. Without having acquired any prior knowledge or put any effort into your reads, there is no less reason to trust me than the other 79 players in the game. We all have the same chance of being mafia. The reason you are hesitant to trust me is either because you're mafia and know by extension that I'm town, and see me as a threat, or that you're town and you don't trust me, in which case I will throughout the course of the day provide ample reasoning as to why I should be trusted. @Syllogism, the 1st post is mostly flavor. I expect your support. Using a strawman to try and gather popular opinion. You should not be trusted because your scum play is spectacular. That, by definition, makes you a huge threat and as such you should never be trusted. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:37 youngminii wrote: This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory. You have so much sway with the majority of people that if anyone actually calls you out once you have your tight rein on town, you'll get your herd to quick lynch the offender. Per your policy, I will be voting for a mayor that will lynch you day 1. You dangerous, dangerous scum. If I remember correctly, the last game we played together was Arkham Asylum. I had a 3rd party role there, something that doesn't exist this game. Are you still mad that you, as the mafia godfather, got lynched on day 2 by me and the people who trusted me? Since then, I can assure you, it is my town play, much more than my scum play, that has stood out. I happen to be pretty good at playing 3rd parties too, but that's irrelevant here. I am either scum or town, and for the record, I am town this game. You are free to believe what you want, but you would do well to at least read through my play in the past few games as mafia and town, the games are listed in my profile. I am first and foremost a town player. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Now, think about it. Town tends to make the wrong decision when voting during day 1. If you elect one of the veterans for mayor and he is actually mafia, we're screwed. Even if you personally make the correct decision, you'd have to hope that ~40 others to do the same. Does that sound likely to you? But what if you elect someone like me, who has some experience but not too much? I am experienced enough to know who is who - but not enough to win the game on my own. Electing me would put me in the spotlight. A veteran knows how to handle the pressure when playing as mafia. I don't, and being scrutinised extensively would reveal my true allegiance. Also, for you veterans out there, consider this: if you elect some other experienced player, you're giving your potential opponent a considerable advantage. If you elect me, you're going to have a mayor who will listen to your arguments. Even if you're mafia, you want me for mayor because you know that I can be manipulated. So, no matter if you're town or mafia, as long as you're confident enough in your skills, you would be able to convince me to vote for your target without attracting too much attention to yourself. Finally, fellow relative and complete newbies, I am one of you. I speak your language. I can relate to your struggles. I don't use some fancy slang and will not be referencing to that one game last spring when player A voted for player B, which proved beyond any doubt that player C was guilty. I am the sensible choice, no matter if you're a first-timer, a veteran, or part of the mafia team, and electing me ensures an interesting game. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:56 youngminii wrote: Why are you avoiding the fact that you lied? You know as well as every other player who's played more than 1 game here that your scum is something to be scared of. Yet you go for a strict LAL policy. That by itself should warrant your death. I'm not avoiding anything youngminii, I thought I gave you an assignment for reading before you came back here arguing? Yes, I do apply to a strict LAL policy (Lynch-All-Liars). If you can prove that my scum play is better than my town play, then I will gladly be the one to hang tonight. You are correct, that at the start of my career my scum play was stronger than my town play, but once again I would like to remind you that since we last played together, I have doubled my game count, while you haven't been around too much. This includes an ongoing 7 game streak of pushing for mafia lynches on day 1. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad my scum play is pretty bad lies lies and more lies hurry up and die | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
 A little contribution The blue color has nothing to do with my role. It just looks nice. okay while showering I made a plan how I want to play this game out. I want to win this game and I play very systematically to win it. I don't want to hurt feelings, but I may have to if it's necessary to win. I went through the playerlist and I filtered out the players I remember from former games. Only few are capable to play as mayor: kitaman27 I think he's a reasonable player and therefor a reasonable choice. sandroba I can agree on what he said about himself so far Palmar I can also agree on what he said about himself. He really is one of the best players here. If he behaves properly I am going to vote him wherebugsgo (doesn't get bold because he didn't post yet despite the fact he was online) syllogism (and he doesn't want to) maybe Greymist/Erandorr/BC (I didn't play with him yet)/decon In my first post, I said I'll do the mayorjob. I want to retract that. I don't want to cause even more chaos. My goal for the first day will be to get one of these players - if he behaves like I expect him to behave - into the mayorposition. sinani206 and prplhz are nice people. But they are definetely not capable to play as mayor. They play completely random both as town and as scum. Maybe they change their play this game. But I don't want to bet the outcome of this game on that. I can't support redFF either. couple therapiemafia etc. You dont understand my plan until now. long story short: I want to make sure we elect no randommayor or scummayor instead I want us to elect a skilled townmayor. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
If you do not agree, that's your choice. How about running for mayor yourself with lynching me as your primary argument? | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 24 2011 18:32 Palmar wrote: A note on the other campaigns
It will be hard for town to get me into office. Along with sandroba, if he's town, I am the only player that's running so far that poses serious and very real threat to the mafia. This means that I will have vocal players who want to call me out and will not support my campaign. I promise you that I will respond to each and every criticism in sufficient detail, because not only does it help the discussion, it allows all of you to get a better read on me. Enjoy thanksgiving! Ah yes. Exactly what I wanted to read from you. ##vote: Palmar and @ all the people that compare Palmars town to his scumplay. You didn't do your homework. His townplay is better. He even played like a townie in AA because he prefers to scumhunt over hiding/confusing whatever. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
@supersoft - "I'll do the mayorthing" is his entire campaign, if it was to be taken seriously, followed by shitting on any and every candidate that stepped up. Eventually, he settled on saying that he supports sandroba and Palmar- not sure if this means that he's not actually running or if his campaign was just a way of saying "first!" However, his general tone in criticizing every other candidate, sometimes based off nothing at all, is quite weird (though it could mean nothing.) @sandroba - Whats this about pressing BC (Bloodycobbler, I assume) so early on? Also, your campaign didn't really seem all too convincing, but maybe you are relying on past reputation to carry you and, as a newbie, I just wouldn't know. @prplhz - Seemed to me he was the most helpful thus far, providing direction towards new players and skilled players alike, while making his campaign clear and concise. I trust him- but my inexperience may just have me as naive. @Palmar - The little pre-story inspirational speech wall of text didn't really do it for me, it seemed like it could (theoretically) be construed as misdirection- "vote for the person who typed more, when half of what I said is irrelevent." Furthermore, there is already accusations against him from youngmini stating that he is lying regarding his former mafia skill level. In response, Palmar lashed out against youngmini regarding some Batman stuff that seemed irrelevent. Ultimately, I'm waiting for youngmini to provide some evidence that Palmar is a good scum player, thus lying. Being that I'm new, all I see right now is people pointing fingers. @redFF, Sinani Unsmart and xtfftc - Didn't really give me any reasons to vote for you that stood out, sry. I read what a mayor/sheriff do, but how does the day1 process of voting go? Does the mod, after a certain deadline, call for a vote and that's that? | ||
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