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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Solohan formed a very illogical case against you and I don't trust the motivations behind him saying that Therapist was his friend. He looks scummy to me. I am unsure on strong. He is definetely focusing on finding mafia and forming cases, which leads me to believe that he is town. But certain posts, such as the one he made on Foolishness don't make sense to me because he's arguing a mixture of things that we already know to be true (Foolishness is town) and things that are WIFOM and just plain distracting. | ||
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Since then, marvel has made good reads, posted very clearly, and focused on scum hunting. I think it is unlikely for marvel to be mafia. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
KB - opinions on solohan, hiropro and marvel Marvel - opinions on strong, omnom, and hiropro Strong - opinions on hiropro, solohan and marvel Solohan - opinions on hiropro, strong and marvel Omnom - opinions on solohan, hiropro and KB | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On April 04 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote: Hiro, could you please outline your case on omnom a little more? I find he has less negative points than Kohbee does. The biggest thing against omnom for me is that he seems to not care about actually looking for scum. The quotes are from omnom's posts arguing against FourFace and Kohbee. Don't really want to play with people with his attitude, it isn't helpful even if he is town. His reaction with the umadbro post was just very silly and immature, not something that someone that is trying to lead should be doing. That helped solidify my thoughts that he is not actually cop, though as stated, no one actually knows if there is a cop. Should people be posting rudely? No. But posting rudely has nothing to do with being mafia. While not looking for mafia is definiteley a characteristic of scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On April 04 2012 09:28 HiroPro wrote: The biggest thing against omnom for me is that he seems to not care about actually looking for scum. The quotes are from omnom's posts arguing against FourFace and Kohbee. Should people be posting rudely? No. But posting rudely has nothing to do with being mafia. While not looking for mafia is definiteley a characteristic of scum. While I agree with you, it just feels like Kohbee has done it more. Certainly Kohbee was giving as good as he got in the last one, and Fourface was being a total douche at the time. I will have to go over the filters again, I went over everyone's about 8 or 9 hours ago (whenever i posted on kohbee) but tells may have come up in the meanwhile. My notes say I had a pretty null read on omnom at the time. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On April 04 2012 08:53 Kohbee wrote: Who I would like to hear from KB - opinions on solohan, hiropro and marvel Now that's getting somewhere. Nice to see you actually putting some effort into coordinating people My opinions for you, sir: I honestly haven't thought all that much about HiroPro yet, but after some reading he sounds like someone who puts a good amount of quality control into his posts and only contributes if there is something sensible/new to say, which I at times missed among other participants of this game, but his self-limitation goes not too far into the luking direction, so there's definitely some town vibes in there. Also appreciates some of my posting, but that's no towntell but a personal matter  On marvellosity I have a null read overall, the reason for this being that he doesn't behave like obvious scum (obvious scum being lurking, posting bad reads etc.) but not like obvious town either. If he happens to be scum, my gut instinct would suspect his buddy to be you, because he basically saved you in the Great Voting Craze™ by putting Therapist up one vote. This doesn't make him scum automatically though because I had basically exactly the same thought processes up to this point, believing Therapist to be one of the most scummy persons around. (And I'm a townie, right? )My view on Solohan50 has not changed since the last time I wrote about it. Reading his filter (which is easy, since it's the shortest of all) I found his case on you less than compelling to say the least (It centers on your vote cast in the very beginning of the game). Add to that the fact that he refused to take the vote off of you in the Great Voting Craze™ and it could well be that there's a scum member wanting to finish a blue somewhere in there. Either that, or he's a very zealous townie which could backfire in other lynch votes later on. The only case I'm really excluding from my considerations there is that you are both scum, because he could have easily changed his vote around during that mess and therefore made sure to get a townie with it. This was however worked out by FourFace before, I just now caught that while re-reading the thread. On April 02 2012 21:57 FourFace wrote: This means that you actually have a slight town read in my book, believe it or not. However, nothing is confirmed just yet and all my opinions are subject to change if someone objects in an eloquent and non-scummy manner.7-10 minutes before the lynch my brain worked out this genuinely true piece of information judging by the constellation of the votes: Kohbee&Solohan50 Kohbee&strongandbig Kohbee&Therapist .. can't possibly be THE scumpair. tl;dr: ##Vote: Solohan50 P.S. After finishing up this tremendous wall of text, I would invite omnomMuffins along to join our discussion as it finally has gotten the chance to get a little more civilised and the chance to get hit by randomly flying accusations has slightly lowered. | ||
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
I am not 100% about omnom. More like 65%. Solohan50 slipped here as I tried to point out. On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie. When that failed, he roleclaimed and bandwagoned a townie right at the end of the day. On top of that, the townie he lynched was one of the most vocal anti-Kohbee players in the thread short of FourFace. Can anyone honestly read this and say that he is talking about the same person in the first and second sentences? He is clearly talking about hiropro in the first sentence and therapist in the 2nd and 3rd. He knows that Hiropro is a townie because he is scum. He then realizes this and tries to post this as an excuse On April 03 2012 02:39 Solohan50 wrote: I think it was pretty apparent by my post who I was referring to, but I'll reiterate it just for you, Kohbee. You were pushing for Therapist to get lynched, and you got it by bandwagoning him with your roleclaim. weak OMGUS(at reading). Also, in the off chance that he is not lying here and he is refering to therapist in the first sentence as well, his case is such forced garbage. To say I had spent the whole day trying to lynch Therapist is a straight up lie and the laziest case ever made (which he has now tried to carry to day2). For proof. I had 2 posts about therapist being scum which were (as I have explained) more to shut him up about my vote on hiro. + Show Spoiler + On April 01 2012 03:38 Kohbee wrote: You were my second scum team member. Thanks for confirming with me Later on I even said we should be looking at marvel and strong (no mention of therapist) + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2012 05:10 Kohbee wrote: but i got what i wanted out of hiro which was a townie response. I haven't had much to say. I am thinking right now we should be voting marvel or strongandbig then you can look at the rest of my posts "spending the whole day trying to lynch a townie" + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2012 05:37 Kohbee wrote: no. can we get back to talking about marvel and therapist QUOTE]On April 02 2012 05:20 Kohbee wrote: I KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS. OK LEAVING HIS ROOM quoting for filter On April 02 2012 05:18 Mattchew wrote: its not too late for anyone. I don't think hiro is scum and I think his reaction to my vote was that of one who doesn't care about being voted for. He reacted as I would as town. Marvel and the rapist should be who we are looking at On April 02 2012 05:49 Kohbee wrote: tbh I don't have any strong scum reads. Mostly I have a few town reads who I will not let get lynched today. Other than that Idk, all 3 of strong marvel and therapist are good lynches imo today ##vote therapist You can even see that I didn't even vote him till around 4 hours before lynch! Solohan50 is scum ##unvote ##vote solohan50 | ||
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Solohan50
37 Posts
- He was the #1 suspect on Day 1 (he was up two votes, 4-2, until the roleclaim). - One of his loud critics, Therapist, was mis-lynched because of the last minute roleclaim. Since Therapist was the second choice for the Day 1 lynch (behind Kohbee), the roleclaim was a good way to spread confusion and get the second choice lynched. - Kohbee's loudest critic, FourFace, was killed immediately after Therapist. While FourFace's lack of spam may help Town a bit, FourFace was also Kohbee's most outspoken enemy and it would be in Kohbee's interest to have him taken out. Having your most vocal opponent taken out would certainly be useful, especially when other people disliked FourFace as well and probably wouldn't mourn his loss (at least one person voted for FourFace just out of spite because of his spam). On top of that, "Kohbee vs Fourface v2" (as KB so eloquently put it) started immediately after, clogging up the thread even more. The reason I seem to focus on Kohbee so much is that he's the only read that I really have right now. I've posted what I've gleaned from other players, but mostly I've just been able to find people that I'm relatively certain are town (like KB). I'm also well aware that my single-mindedness may come around and bite me. If I was worried about that, I would've jumped on the Therapist bandwagon like everyone else, especially when it was clear that Kohbee was going to live. I even reaffirmed my choice despite the risk near the end of the vote, because I believe that Kohbee has the strongest chance of being Mafia. | ||
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
You then go on to 'explain' that you were not going after Therapist the whole day, before then demonstrating you kinda were. You say your first two posts were to "shut him up" - nonetheless you made them, and you made them in a non-productive, pointless way. Then as you point out yourself as well, you say 3 times later on that we should be looking at therapist, and then you vote for him. If a vote for him plus mentioning you think he's scummy AT least 5 times doesn't warrant Solohan saying you were on therapist's back all day, I don't know what does. | ||
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Solohan50
37 Posts
On April 04 2012 06:25 omnomMuffins wrote: Also on a totally side note to Solohan50. I'm heading out to Vegas this weekend for IPL. Is it shorts weather there yet? When I was there on Saturday, you could've definitely gotten by with shorts in the day. If the weather was anything like where I broke down at though, shorts would suck at night. To be fair though, we got stuck at the top of the big hill/mountain that's right past the Cali/Nevada border on the I-15S. The altitude difference might make a large difference in the temperature, but it was cold as hell and super windy at night at the place I was stuck at. I was only in town long enough to load up a trailer, grab dinner, and then get out of town. | ||
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omnomMuffins
United States255 Posts
On April 04 2012 10:56 Solohan50 wrote: When I was there on Saturday, you could've definitely gotten by with shorts in the day. If the weather was anything like where I broke down at though, shorts would suck at night. To be fair though, we got stuck at the top of the big hill/mountain that's right past the Cali/Nevada border on the I-15S. The altitude difference might make a large difference in the temperature, but it was cold as hell and super windy at night at the place I was stuck at. I was only in town long enough to load up a trailer, grab dinner, and then get out of town. So skirts and shorts on the strip, got it thanks | ||
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
On April 04 2012 10:55 marvellosity wrote: Kohbee, I disagree with your entire point about Therapist/HiroPro. As far as I understood Solohan, he was clearly talking about Therapist in his post. Therefore his 2nd post was not an excuse. You then go on to 'explain' that you were not going after Therapist the whole day, before then demonstrating you kinda were. You say your first two posts were to "shut him up" - nonetheless you made them, and you made them in a non-productive, pointless way. Then as you point out yourself as well, you say 3 times later on that we should be looking at therapist, and then you vote for him. If a vote for him plus mentioning you think he's scummy AT least 5 times doesn't warrant Solohan saying you were on therapist's back all day, I don't know what does. 5 posts. 2 of which call him scum. 2 of which just ask people to talk about him. 3 of which were in the last 20% of day 1 I am sorry but you are just wrong Your soft defense of solo is noted | ||
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omnomMuffins
United States255 Posts
On April 04 2012 08:53 Kohbee wrote: Omnom - opinions on solohan, hiropro and KB My read on HiroPro keeps flip flopping. Sometimes he seems town, other times he seems mafia (I hate the word scum, it reminds me of the stuff on top of swamps). Currently I'm reading a little harder on mafia, though that could just be because he missed reading a post of yours earlier (the one with all your reads), which he might have actually missed instead of "missed". KB I think is clean and probably the biggest voice of reason in the thread. He is keeping us from ripping each others throats out. Solohan, no solid read so far. Though the times when he posts always seem to be after a threat, he could just be coincidentally returning at that time or just staying to protect himself. I wouldn't want to lynch him off of that fact alone. On a side note, I love the casting of the Red Witch for this season in the Game of Thrones. I don't know why I am adding this, but my fiance hasn't read the books so I can't gush to him about these things and I am rather exploding with it. | ||
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Kohbee
United States155 Posts
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