EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 250
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austinmcc
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supersoft
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austinmcc
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Mig
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austinmcc
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BC has made some persuasive posts for people today. But I want to see how they feel when EVERYTHING is on the table. People keep picking and choosing bits and pieces of what someone has done, and it needs to stop. There seems to be a lot of (relative) short term memory loss, where people are making reads based off of what JUST happened and what someone JUST posted. We got NKs, we got claimed actions, we got DAYS of posting. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:00 austinmcc wrote: Ya. But it's public info that artanis claimed he was going to shoot BC and got RBed (i guess technically if both BC and I are mafia together then artanis could have been RBed for claiming BC and then I got saved by that AND am faking vet?). BC has made some persuasive posts for people today. But I want to see how they feel when EVERYTHING is on the table. People keep picking and choosing bits and pieces of what someone has done, and it needs to stop. There seems to be a lot of (relative) short term memory loss, where people are making reads based off of what JUST happened and what someone JUST posted. We got NKs, we got claimed actions, we got DAYS of posting. As I said, I need more time for BC. How do you like my list and my short-form-cases on thrawn, coag, risen? - cant sleep - | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
Risen looking like a pretty good choice right now. His play in the last day or so is actively harming the town. He has some ridiculous policy lynch reason for voting grack (which he didn't have for BH). And looking at the GoT mafia game he can be actively very helpful as town. Also there is this post On November 19 2013 18:05 Risen wrote: And some people don't like your play... fairly good reads imo. He says that LM has pretty good reads, which included mattchew as scum, then says the shot on mattchew was scummy. On November 21 2013 10:26 Risen wrote: Probably would have been a more useful shot tbh. No idea what possessed you to shoot Mattchew of all people. Pretty scummy shot. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:03 supersoft wrote: Which is fine, I'm just paranoid that: (1) we've wasted half of a double-lynch pretty important D3 and (2) there's a nonzero chance you're scum and (3) PEOPLE KEEP ASKING FOR LISTS AND MAKING LISTS AND IT'S A DOUBLE LYNCH WITH ONE REALLY UP IN THE AIR AND I GET PARANOID THIS IS SOUNDING FROM SCUM AND IF EVERYONE IS POSTING THESE LISTS WE CAN FIND A NICE HAPPY AGREEABLE 2ND LYNCH THAT, OOPSIES, IS TOWN.As I said, I need more time for BC. How do you like my list and my short-form-cases on thrawn, coag, risen? - cant sleep - Just paranoid. I don't love your scum list. Thrawn's been scum for me. Coag is ... I'm less convinced. There's a useless --> something not useless swap here, but it also coincides with power. I think if he were scum he could also play things slightly different, could have just done NOTHING EVER but hammer on grack from the moment grack said they were masoned. He's been almost-semi-active, he responded to me about BC, and so I absolutely don't think he's a lynch for today. This doesn't QUITE feel like pure useless scum coag. As far as risen, I also don't think he's a lynch for today. I've seen him get called townie and then 100% zone out of a game, and this is worryingly similar to that. I'm happy if he gets pressured, gets voted, and want to see what happens. Like if risen were a laboratory where a mad scientist was experimenting on townspeople, and the town formed a mob to go burn down risen (who again, is a building in this scenario), I might not grab a torch and march with him, but I would let them all pass by, and maybe 15 seconds later, when they were out of earshot, I might say under my breath "Oh no, don't do that, he's probably a nice building." That's about my confidence level on Risen right now? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:06 Mig wrote: Currently still leaning on LM or thrawn. Have considered BC/(supersoft or oats), just to solve that situation a little harder, but I think that's lazy and I'd rather read into those two more and not try to solve a puzzle by killing most of the players.Austin who are you leaning towards with your second vote? Risen looking like a pretty good choice right now. His play in the last day or so is actively harming the town. He has some ridiculous policy lynch reason for voting grack (which he didn't have for BH). And looking at the GoT mafia game he can be actively very helpful as town. Also there is this post He says that LM has pretty good reads, which included mattchew as scum, then says the shot on mattchew was scummy. I'll give Risen a more critical look. | ||
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Mig
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again. This now applies to LM imo. | ||
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Mig
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Mig
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Tomorrow I will do some real legwork. Today I had some insanity fun. Sadly nobody was around to play with. Hopefully tomorrow there is. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 22 2013 08:15 Mig wrote: Rayn do you have a strong case against LM besides the slip up? Because I don't want to lynch somebody on something that could very well just be a mistake. Why would he lie when it really doesn't serve a mafia agenda. Look my case is not just "i forgot". The case is -> Look at what LM actually did on D2. His main concern was "i can't understand why Sharrant was killed". After that he asks Koshi about it in mason QT. Koshi answers "yo dude, wtf, Mocsta and Sharrant are dead, what's this??" LM says "oh okay, i think i got caught in filters". In any case that's a weak ass answer i think is either a lie (as i first thought) or him not knowing on what to answer Koshi. I can't believe a guy whose sole contribution on D2 was "why was Sharrant killed?" does not remember he was in fact killed later on. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
If i made one single post on a day phase, that said: "I think Koshi is scum". Then later on i am questioned about it i say "I don't know what my read on Koshi is". Would you buy that? Maybe you would if i had 10 pages of filter between that, but if it's pretty much THE ONLY THING i have done would you believe i "forgot" it? | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
Koshi what is your point about it tho. Besides Oats/Rayn/VA are possible scum? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
A) im not even playing or B) when im third party Every now and again Ill have surges of brilliance where I will pin people fast and hard. But the fact of the matter is with the new crew of players that play now I can't analyze them for shit. The current skills I have for analysis don't apparently apply to this forum anymore. When I played at my prime a trolly chez was usually someone you could quickly differentiate as being useful or not and then kill him with whatever means and he'd flip whatever he was playing. Was he trolling? Yes but it clearly pushed one sides agendas over another. In this game I am being told active trolling, regardless of actions, are a town tell. Before anyone disagree's with me. The only reason none of you want to off grack is because he almost got mocsta killed day 1. You asked in one of your newer posts, put everything on the bloody table. Does grack still seem town? Hell, I even put all of mig's actions on the table and got flamed for it. Austin you honestly seem pretty legit right now and aside from the fact you are trying to persuade people not voting for me to vote for me you have your head on straight. I've spent part of the last day just trying to cool down and slowly work through filters. My scum reads haven't really changed. As terrible as that sounds my reads really haven't changed horrifically. I still have grack, hopeless, and holy as scum reads. I can easily see thrawn being scum. Aside from a really strong early game start he really hasn't done too much. I have already said why Mig could easily be scum. His play as town doesn't line up as the logical person he says he is. Supersoft and pandain are clearly town to me, coag, rayn and you austin are likely town as well. Koshi could go either way. Aside from that most people have been utterly useless. Ive attempted to contribute and been essentially told to fuck off each time. Do you know how frustrating it is to post something that I know is fucking logical and be told im wrong for no reasons? Yes i know my meta grack/mocsta stuff was bad but I was seriously tunnel visioned. We then have a ton of people who randomly pipe in and dont do anything but vote and peace out. This entire game is one of the most pro mafia environments i've ever seen and its no wonder that we as a town are going to lose this game unless we stop being retards. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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