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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2013 00:06 GMT
#5001
I mean i can get your other town reads but Coag and Pandain are like.. w00t?
table for two on a tv tray
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#5002
BC how do you feel about risen? If it doesn't look like me/grack will be lynched are you going to change your vote?

Like regardless of whether you are going to be lynched or not you still have a large influence on the game. If you are town then help out.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#5003
On November 22 2013 09:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC what has Pandain done to make you think he is town?


played exactly like the town pandain I remember from ages ago? He's not done anything super amazing yet hes not done anything obviously scummy. A normal town pandain from when I used to play a ton fits his current play to a T. Hes semi active, attempting to contribute and sometimes it looks good sometimes it doesnt. Hes not trying to push any, imo, obviously scummy agendas, and he seemed legit with everything he posted in the qt yesterday.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#5004
On November 22 2013 09:07 Mig wrote:
BC how do you feel about risen? If it doesn't look like me/grack will be lynched are you going to change your vote?

Like regardless of whether you are going to be lynched or not you still have a large influence on the game. If you are town then help out.


Why would I change my vote? You to me openly claimed scum in thread, and i think grack is still mafia. Given you two are my top two reads my votes stay where they are. If thread sentiment was moving to a combination of my 5 top reads, sure id swap to ensure they died, however as the current sentiment is to kill off a bunch of people I think are town and me, why would i swap.

Risen I have a null read on. He could go either way. I am aware I can have a large impact its kinda why I tried to cool off and return with a more clear head.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:11 GMT
#5005
On November 22 2013 06:30 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 06:13 Risen wrote:
What did BH do that was worthy of policy lynch? I must have missed it.


Should probably policy lynch yourself if you are policy lynching grack.

For what?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:12 GMT
#5006
On November 22 2013 06:46 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:11 Risen wrote:
Would rather lynch supersoft or Austin over grack but I'm lynching grack on policy not read.


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:28 Risen wrote:
Super is probably scum so...


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 12:47 Risen wrote:
Some things happened during N1. Namely SS logs not being posted immediately when asked to.

Spontaneously would mean you saw the question and immediately posted them. Which did not happen
.


this is your case, right?
I posted the MasonQTs too late. Nice catch, sherlock

?

That's not my case. I haven't made one.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:13 GMT
#5007
On November 22 2013 07:25 Coagulation wrote:
what do you guys think about pandian dropping off the face of the earth ?

Saw momentum swing away from him and didn't want to rock the boat.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:14 GMT
#5008
I really don't get the sense you are actually looking for mafia honestly. I see you writing 4 paragraphs about how you are a bad town. Like you don't ask anyone questions you aren't searching for any information at all. You literally do not even consider any possibility that I could be town. In the SS chats with you it really looked like SS was doing most of the contributing. I just don't see someone who is actually trying. You tunnelled grack literally the ENTIRE game. When he helped lynch mocsta it didn't change your read at all you still thought he was 100% scum

All of this looks to me like someone who already knows alignments and has their opinions set in stone.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:15 GMT
#5009
On November 22 2013 08:06 Mig wrote:
Austin who are you leaning towards with your second vote?

Risen looking like a pretty good choice right now. His play in the last day or so is actively harming the town. He has some ridiculous policy lynch reason for voting grack (which he didn't have for BH). And looking at the GoT mafia game he can be actively very helpful as town. Also there is this post

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 18:05 Risen wrote:
On November 19 2013 17:39 LoneMeow wrote:
On November 19 2013 17:19 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow, could you tell me your top 3 scumreads of the active posters and your biggest scumread under the lurkers?


Not sure what you'll count as active, but:

BlazingHand
Pandain
HolyFlare

And of the lurkers, Mattchew.

And some people don't like your play... fairly good reads imo.


He says that LM has pretty good reads, which included mattchew as scum, then says the shot on mattchew was scummy.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:26 Risen wrote:
Probably would have been a more useful shot tbh. No idea what possessed you to shoot Mattchew of all people. Pretty scummy shot.

Two out of 4 aligned with me = fairly good. Why are you trying to twist things? I'm pretty clearly town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:16 GMT
#5010
On November 22 2013 09:11 Risen wrote:
For what?


You are policy lynching Grack for lying trolling. You knew BH was a liar. He was a confirmed liar with conflicting claims you commented on it (I believe) and then you lied about not knowing. If you want to policy lynch liars should probably lynch yourself.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#5011
pandain plays calm and to the point. Indeed his analyzing is not breth taking. But I somehow agree that pandain is readable and with some more flips I will be able to have a clear read on him.

I totally agree with BC what he says about the game. I feel this too and I am town. As scum I'd be angry, too. because of this randomness in here, but not so much.
I really buy that BC is frustrated, since i am frustrated, too. It is exactly like he described it. You come here in the thread, you post a case or a piece of analysis and the threads reaction is:

"LOL this is trash man, he always plays like this"

"completely normal Oats man, he always trolls and keeps switching reads for no reason"

"supersoft definetely scum!"

And i am sitting in front of my computer and i am just wondering, if I am playing with 16 year olds. It's okay to provoke, i mean roleplay is part of the game, like i said earlier. But this just never ends.

All in all I think BC is town based on his reactions here. I have different reads, but i need to check his reads first, grack is town to me. I mean it's sad, yes, but that is actually his towngame.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#5012
On November 22 2013 09:15 Risen wrote:

Two out of 4 aligned with me = fairly good. Why are you trying to twist things? I'm pretty clearly town.


How am I twisting anything lol. If you mean 2/4 then why don't you say that. If you thought mattchew was incorrect why don't you say something about it, instead of describing it as fairly good.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#5013
On November 22 2013 09:16 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:11 Risen wrote:
For what?


You are policy lynching Grack for lying trolling. You knew BH was a liar. He was a confirmed liar with conflicting claims you commented on it (I believe) and then you lied about not knowing. If you want to policy lynch liars should probably lynch yourself.

No idea what you're talking about.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#5014
Super do you get the feeling that BC is actually trying to figure anything out? I see him tunnel me I see him tunnel Grack. I don't see any actual search for information or changing reads whatsoever.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#5015
On November 22 2013 09:17 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 09:15 Risen wrote:

Two out of 4 aligned with me = fairly good. Why are you trying to twist things? I'm pretty clearly town.


How am I twisting anything lol. If you mean 2/4 then why don't you say that. If you thought mattchew was incorrect why don't you say something about it, instead of describing it as fairly good.

You're right I should have been more specific. I didn't say I disagreed with matt potentially being sketch, but that doesn't mean he is a clear night kill. Listen, I think you're just playing bad and are probably town, but really you should step back and read the thread some more. Or at least my filter...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#5016
Ok Risen well explain to me why you are pretty clearly town. I am listening
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#5017
On November 22 2013 09:14 Mig wrote:
I really don't get the sense you are actually looking for mafia honestly. I see you writing 4 paragraphs about how you are a bad town. Like you don't ask anyone questions you aren't searching for any information at all. You literally do not even consider any possibility that I could be town. In the SS chats with you it really looked like SS was doing most of the contributing. I just don't see someone who is actually trying. You tunnelled grack literally the ENTIRE game. When he helped lynch mocsta it didn't change your read at all you still thought he was 100% scum

All of this looks to me like someone who already knows alignments and has their opinions set in stone.


My opinions rarely change once I set them. And why would I think you are town? You seem to refuse to believe the same thing of me. I already outlined why I think you are scum dude.

Your case on me is game setup based
your actions as a vig given your public reads don't match your reads.

as for my level of effort. Its going to wane. Have virtually everyone tell your bad ends up stiffling most wants to try hard.

Sorry that my play isn't what you expected. How we play obviously differs.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#5018
I look at your GoT game and I know you are someone who can contribute to the town if you want to. You just don't seem to want to .
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#5019
On November 22 2013 09:20 Mig wrote:
I look at your GoT game and I know you are someone who can contribute to the town if you want to. You just don't seem to want to .


which game?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#5020
Anyone that thinks what BC is doing is town is pathetic at this game. His "reads" aren't reads, it's 2 "cases" and 2 random names. The only ones he thinks he has reasoning for are mig and grack, where do mine and hopeless' names fit in? They don't, it's 2 random names from his aggressive post that called us lurkers and not contributing. That has clearly changed for me since then and slightly for hopeless but he still maintains the same reads with no reasoning whatsoever. His attitude is completely defeatist and he is most definitely not town.
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