Liar Game Mini Mafia - Page 25

On February 22 2012 11:14 prplhz wrote:
Okay I don't think that XXX is scum because he's been pretty out there. The scummiest he has done in my opinion is his claim which was oddly timed. Right now he's a terribly easy lynch, because we'll have to lynch him at some point. I'd like to see ZZZ explain how everything XXX has done can be explained by scum motivation and can not be explained by town motivation. The worst thing about this whole XXX thing is that the lynch is so easy that everybody can just pile onto him and then the day is kinda ruined, we aren't going to find anybody else. I don't think that XXX is scum because he's just been putting himself too much in the line of fire.

YYY isn't taking AAA accusations seriously (for some reason, nobody is even though AAA is pretty good at mafia). There are more in the accusations than just "YYY doesn't have a read 5 hours in", he is saying that your mindset doesn't seem focused on finding scum. I totally agree with this. He specifically quotes this:



You see that the discussion is bad, you say that people should try to find whoever is responsible for this, but you never do this. You are the one guilty of strawman arguing when you insinuate that AAA accusation was just based around how you didn't have any reads 5 hours into the game.

Additionally there's plenty of bad stuff in your filter. –REDACTED- This post where you complain about what's being discussed without providing anything of an alternative. You were just as guilty in letting the initial discussion get out of hand as those people whose existence you alluded to but never tried to find. I understand that you might not like how XXX was being a douche towards BBB but your comments on that doesn't count as a contribution. You didn't post a single read this entire game, and I don't care if anything is 5 hours into the game or whatever, reads are what push this game foward, AMIRITE?

So, YYY, is XXX scum or is he just best lynch because of the situation he's gotten himself in? Do you have other scum reads?

I'll vote XXX to avoid no lynch. I kinda assume that this is an extended majority lynch where we can end up in a no lynch sitaution, but the OP doesn't really say anything about that. But like, XXX probably isn't scum, come on. There's also plenty good in having him around since scum can't role block anybody else no matter XXX alignment. The lynch today comes down to "We very likely have to lynch XXX at some point, should it be today or do we have something better?". Right now, I think it's too early to say.

On October 14 2011 22:20 prplhz wrote:
you know while the mayor needs to be someone town, the pardoner is going to be held very accountable. we should lynch the pardoner the second he doesn't do exactly what we tell him to so i think pardoner needs to be expendable.

also i think we need to narrow down the field of candidates so people should keep pushing for their candidacy or they should drop out.

to all of the candidates that aren't XXX, (YYY,ZZZ,AAA,BBB,CCC,DDD,sorryifi'mforgettinganybody) who would you like to see as pardoner if you win the election?

On May 01 2012 05:13 prplhz wrote:
If there's no plan then it's probably going to be 2-4 scum in the majority. If there is a vigilante of sort or other similar role then we can use that to kill of bad guys in the minority.

Since it looks like people don't like round A plans then how about round B plans? I think it was XXX who said "X votes X+1" and then the minority votes for the townier people. Bad thing is that we don't get majority to vote on anything so no information, and if we just flip coins for round A then people never get to put their money where their mouth is. I'm still for the YYYZZZAAA-plan (wazzup) where those three just decide whatever and put 6-7 townies in the minority. If we're dissatisfied with their picks then we can just replace some of them tomorrow. Just because we ditched the claim idea doesn't mean we have to ditch everything that any of those said.

On April 30 2012 20:22 prplhz wrote:
Also: How I plan to be active in PMs this game.

If I end up in majority I plan on pleading my innocence to a bunch of people in PMs. Other than that I'm probably going to play the most of this game in the thread.

On May 01 2012 04:59 prplhz wrote:
I was just reading up on this game and then I thought to myself "Man, I wish I was observing this game." and then I was like "Hey, I am observing this game!" ... dunno I caught and bug and I'm a little ill these days.

I'm not entirely sure what to think of anything yet, I like the 72 hour day proposal 'cause this is going fast.

@wherebugsgo What do you mean "the groups with the power to influence who get into the minority are scum, not town." ?

On May 01 2012 08:08 prplhz wrote:
I don't know who is lamer, the DotA2 king of the WoW king ...

On April 30 2012 20:02 prplhz wrote:
I hope this doesn't end in Ace being shot again.

We don't know how many (or even if) we have a vigilante, scum who want to avoid lynch will have like a ~40% chance each day of avoiding the lynch, and they don't even need their scumbuddies' help for this! If we go through with the pardon plan for days then they will even get 100% chance of avoiding lynch and we will need vigilantes to take care of them so potential vigilantes should not use their shot to enforce plans.

I imagine that there are roles more related to the central game mechanic, maybe M/M inverters or people who can throw other people from one pool to the other, maybe some hidden votes for round B.

I thought about how the vote trading panned out in Hammer Mini Mafia (for those who haven't read, everybody had 5 votes and we had to give some away to other people every night). In that game people might not give votes to the most townie player just because "he would already get a bunch" and then he would end up with none. Also, I think charismatic people might get relatively many votes compared to how "townie" they really appear but we still don't want people like me to die just because no one thought to trade me (goes for other people too).

I'm unsure about what to think about big round B plans, I'm always worried about what powers scum may have and I think that just relying on people to do their best should suffice (at least in this game with this infinitely stacked player list). What I'm going to do is that I'm going to split my votes up and throw a bunch of them into people I think other people are likely to vote for, and throw some of them into people I think other people are more unlikely to vote for. If everybody else does this then we're not going to have any problems (and we're going to have a lot of information this way) but if only I do it then there's not really much harm in that anyway.

I think it was gonzaw/syllogism who proposed that round B should be an unofficial vote and then we try to kill the "winner" of that vote, but I don't know about that. This is a game about finding townies and if we all agree that someone is scum then we're not going to need a huge plan for getting him lynched, people are just not going to vote for him or they're going to get into trouble. I have never seen an unofficial voting system in action either, at least not one that worked.

It seems that there is already a big plan in place for round A and it's kinda alright with me, syllogism and Palmar have good reads on each other so I'm going to go along with whatever they feel like for now.

On May 01 2012 07:56 prplhz wrote:
I'm very unsure about what's going on and why we're not going with the Palmogisfield-plan. Most of this has just been people not wanting to cooperate and I'm very unsure why. I'm pretty sure we could find a couple people that most everybody wouldn't vote for day1 and it only makes sense to throw them into the minority for more information (and hopefully better odds) in round B.

Ace is doing his usual and very useless "you can't have any reads on day1" thing. Then he's like "I'm just going to be an asshole no matter what you do" which is equally useless. All Ace can do day1 is yell at other people for having bad reads.

I kinda like Mr. Wiggles but I don't exactly know why. I also like Foolishness and Palmogisfield. I don't have any scum reads.

I feel like you're all speaking in russian. I'm looking forward to round B because then I'll have five votes like the rest of you that I can use however I want.

Dunno.

On May 01 2012 08:07 prplhz wrote:

I don't but that was not what I meant.

If everybody just do something semi-random all game long then we're not going to win because we can't organize anything while scum will be able to perfectly organize themselves. If people stopped doing semi-random stuff and for the most did what appeared to be the most townie thing then we'd be running with the Palmogisfield plan right now.

Meh, it's useless since round B is coming up soon.