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Enel is the most powerful being in the entire one piece. There is not one person other than luffy stands a chance surviving Enel in a 1 on 1 fight.
Enel can nuke people with his most powerful attack from tens of Kilometers away and able to read their intentions with his Haki from just as far away. Which makes him the most powerful detector that can fly in mid air and attack at a safe distance. His only down fall is his own arrogance. Luffy wouldn't even be able to touch him if he choose to not let luffy get close to him. Gear2 has no chance in keep up with the speed of lightning.
Now that being said, however if it's not a 1vs1 scenario the following people can destroy Enel with help from someone spotting Enel's location.
One person potentially can fight Enel is Kuma, he shown the ability to random teleport out of no where, and his attack has a huge range. So if he get help and knows the exactly location of Enel, he can initiate his teleport ability from outside of Enel's detect range and get right next to him for one huge attack of Ursa shock.
Another person could be Kizaru, as he can travel at speed of light which is obviously faster than Enel, but then again, he needs someone to help him spot Enel and initiate his light travel skill from outside of Enel's mantra detection range.
However, the notion that someone with in Enel's Mantra detection range is able to see Enel(remember Enel is not a fucking lighting beacon, he doesn't have to stand out and scream i'm here, come get me, he can just hide in a cave or fly very high in his air ship) and then send out an signal to Kuma or Kizaru before Enel's Mantra detects it and nuke the shit out of him is also laughable.
At this moment, I don't think anyone in the one piece universe has the tools to deal with Enel in a 1vs1 fight.
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How would kizaru not? Speed of light > Speed of lightning, and it's as if you're saying kizaru doesn't have haki either. He doesn't need to spot Enel, he can use observation Haki to find Enel too. Also, if Kizaru is fast enough, Enel can't even deal with him despite being able to know what's coming. I mean, sure, you can sense what they want to do, but your body still has to be fast enough and strong enough to deflect it. Can we say that Enel can do this for sure against Kizaru? I don't think so.
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take Pekoms for example - he was a comedy relief guy pitied even by random citizens, but as soon as he was attacked by a Logia? BAM, OHKO. "Logias who think they're invincible don't last long in the New World"
I'm sure that phrase would also apply to enel assuming he's facing someone who uses haki. I'm just not sure if the electricity would be nullified completely by armament haki. What I'm pretty sure is that, since Shanks stopped Akainu's attack, anyone on yonkou level haki should be virtually invincible to any form of logia. But also considering the individual strength of a person outside their Logia fruits, they'd have to be pretty strong too.
Also, enel should have armament haki now. All the other admiral level logias have haki. For example, aokiji and akainu being able to touch each other.
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Kizaru has haki, but Enel's detection range is enhanced by his lightning ability as long as there is cloud near by or water near by his electricity can enhance his range of detection by using the moister in the air or just the ocean. It was explain in the sky island arc.
In a 1v1 fight Enel will detect Kizaru first most definitely, he then can keep his distance away from Kizaru and never let Kizaru feel him, and just keep nuking Kizaru and force Kizaru to randomly zip around with his speed of light to dodge and hope he just randomly runs into Enel, and at that point Enel can just run far far away and never come into any danger. And also, Kizaru's light travel has a decomposition and recomposition delay before he can attack, while the whole time he is visible in form of a light beam, not to mention he can only go at a straight line with it, and can only turn by reflecting off surfaces of buildings/trees to change direction. So what if he's faster, if he's not able to pingpoint Enel he still can't get him.
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On December 05 2012 02:05 rei wrote:
Enel is the most powerful being in the entire one piece. There is not one person other than luffy stands a chance surviving Enel in a 1 on 1 fight.
Enel can nuke people with his most powerful attack from tens of Kilometers away and able to read their intentions with his Haki from just as far away. Which makes him the most powerful detector that can fly in mid air and attack at a safe distance. His only down fall is his own arrogance. Luffy wouldn't even be able to touch him if he choose to not let luffy get close to him. Gear2 has no chance in keep up with the speed of lightning.
Now that being said, however if it's not a 1vs1 scenario the following people can destroy Enel with help from someone spotting Enel's location.
One person potentially can fight Enel is Kuma, he shown the ability to random teleport out of no where, and his attack has a huge range. So if he get help and knows the exactly location of Enel, he can initiate his teleport ability from outside of Enel's detect range and get right next to him for one huge attack of Ursa shock.
Another person could be Kizaru, as he can travel at speed of light which is obviously faster than Enel, but then again, he needs someone to help him spot Enel and initiate his light travel skill from outside of Enel's mantra detection range.
However, the notion that someone with in Enel's Mantra detection range is able to see Enel(remember Enel is not a fucking lighting beacon, he doesn't have to stand out and scream i'm here, come get me, he can just hide in a cave or fly very high in his air ship) and then send out an signal to Kuma or Kizaru before Enel's Mantra detects it and nuke the shit out of him is also laughable.
At this moment, I don't think anyone in the one piece universe has the tools to deal with Enel in a 1vs1 fight.
Enel cant fly Enel is strong but definently not strongest person in one piece his complete lack of armament haki is a big minus i wouldnt put him on admiral/yonkou level
while flashy his ranged attack is basically just a punch, he needs to get closer to use his real big attacks and then he can get hit by the opponent
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he can fly, he flied all the way to the moon with his air ship.
and he doesn't need armorment haki if no one can even get in striking range against him.
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On December 04 2012 18:17 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 18:09 YejinYejin wrote:On December 04 2012 17:17 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Enel's fruit was pretty OP as fuck, imagine that he could just summon himself into a cloud and virtually go anywhere via lightnings in the sky. But he's n00b and arrogant probably he's 500 million just because of the potential of his fruit That's not just "probably." I believe Oda was asked in an interview what Enel's bounty would have been if he had one, and he said $500 mil. because u should take everything Oda says for granted. guys... Just read the manga. Everything that happens around it or is said about it by anyone is not important at all. Even if Strong World is "canon" (which i highly doubt) - as long as it hasnt any effect on the manga, it doesnt matter at all.
unlike other mangas we do believe Oda says 100%, he has never disappointed us :D
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On December 05 2012 02:34 rei wrote:
he can fly, he flied all the way to the moon with his air ship.
and he doesn't need armorment haki if no one can even get in striking range against him.
his super long range attack was barely enough to kill a regular citizen Luffy as he is now even without the gum gum fruit wouldnt even feel it with armament haki the longer the range the weaker the attack so he has to get close in order to deliver an actual attack that would hurt
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On December 05 2012 02:23 rei wrote:
Kizaru has haki, but Enel's detection range is enhanced by his lightning ability as long as there is cloud near by or water near by his electricity can enhance his range of detection by using the moister in the air or just the ocean. It was explain in the sky island arc.
In a 1v1 fight Enel will detect Kizaru first most definitely, he then can keep his distance away from Kizaru and never let Kizaru feel him, and just keep nuking Kizaru and force Kizaru to randomly zip around with his speed of light to dodge and hope he just randomly runs into Enel, and at that point Enel can just run far far away and never come into any danger. And also, Kizaru's light travel has a decomposition and recomposition delay before he can attack, while the whole time he is visible in form of a light beam, not to mention he can only go at a straight line with it, and can only turn by reflecting off surfaces of buildings/trees to change direction. So what if he's faster, if he's not able to pingpoint Enel he still can't get him.
You have no idea how fast light is, do you? It is much, much faster than lightning. There is no way Enel would be able to keep away from Kizaru. Not that a fight in One Piece would even be a DBZish like fight as you are imagining. Not to mention all of the fights involving Kizaru and Enel thus far haven't even been close to what you are describing.
Also, to put the final nail in the coffin that Enel is NOT the most powerful person in One Piece, Oda confirmed he is not. And Oda's word is Word of God in One Piece:
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_43#Chapter_415.2C_Page_128
D: Question!! If God Enel were to descend to the Blue Sea, how much would his bounty be? Also, what would happen if he did that? Would he rule the Blue Sea? P.N. Gorozoro
O: I see. Interesting question. Knowing how tricky he would be to beat, I'd imagine he could reach as much as 500,000,000 Beli. Luffy was lucky to be rubber. But like Luffy said, there all sorts of even crazier guys down on the Blue Sea. Enel would NOT rule it.
SBS are a question-answer column Oda does. So, are you going to start arguing with One Piece's creator/writer about how Enel is the strongest person now?
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On December 05 2012 05:25 rei wrote:
yep oda is so wrong.
'My opinion is right, everybody else's is wrong'
Rofl
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exactly, as long as he doesn't show any fact about those crazier guys has any ability to do anything to Enel, i don't make argument by begging to authority, I only base my argument by facts available.
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On December 05 2012 06:00 rei wrote:
exactly, as long as he doesn't show any fact about those crazier guys has any ability to do anything to Enel, i don't make argument by begging to authority, I only base my argument by facts available.
so Luffy roflstomping enel isnt evidence enough that Enel isnt the strongest person in existance?
you keep saying he could jsut keep his distance and take them out with long range attack but then itd be piss weak since hed have to use so much voltage to make it extend that fer, if that father dude could survive taking the hit then if hes at a range where the enemy cant hit him then he cant even hurt him
he has to get close in order to use any of his really really strong voltage attacksbut then hes open to being attacked
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On December 05 2012 06:00 rei wrote:
exactly, as long as he doesn't show any fact about those crazier guys has any ability to do anything to Enel, i don't make argument by begging to authority, I only base my argument by facts available.
rofl, this is too good. The creator flat-out states you are wrong, but now you are saying "No, YOU are wrong, Eiichiro Oda! How dare you argue with me? Who do you think you are, One Piece's writer or something?"
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Solution.
Enel is the strongest person you have seen so far. You can stop arguing now.
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On December 05 2012 06:09 JinDesu wrote:
Solution.
Enel is the strongest person you have seen so far. You can stop arguing now.
Except hes not.
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On December 05 2012 06:10 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 06:09 JinDesu wrote:
Solution.
Enel is the strongest person you have seen so far. You can stop arguing now. Except hes not.
I'm referring to Rei. Maybe he doesn't look at the other strong characters. I'm not willing to argue who is stronger. I just think it's a stupid argument on his part.
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Enel is the one of the ancient weapons that can destroy the entire planet.
On December 05 2012 06:04 Forikorder wrote:
you keep saying he could jsut keep his distance and take them out with long range attack but then itd be piss weak since hed have to use so much voltage to make it extend that fer, if that father dude could survive taking the hit then if hes at a range where the enemy cant hit him then he cant even hurt him
he has to get close in order to use any of his really really strong voltage attacksbut then hes open to being attacked
not if Enel uses the lightning naturally exist in thunder clouds, and all he had to do is guide that shit to the target like how Sasuke did to Itachi.
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