Agent wherebugsgo was awakened by an ancient stirring in his mind. Something was amiss. Was it just stupid stationmates again? Or was it actually something serious this time?
Quickly, he grabbed his sidearm and snuck into the hall adjacent to his room.
One by one, he passed through hall after hall, heartbeat quickening, steadily shuffling, eyes straining. The station was dark; barely anything stirred but the sounds of the ventilation and the low whirring of the combobulating gyrators. His practiced footsteps unfailing, wherebugsgo crept silently ahead, drawn toward the strange presence. Drawn ever and ever closer, he knew he would satiate his curiosity if he drew on every ounce of his concentration. He needed to solve this mystery, lest they get him before he got them. The fate of the crew, hell, the world, rested upon the eradication of this alien threat.
Suddenly, wherebugsgo's thoughts were interrupted, cut short by a drunk member of the station walking through the adjacent hall, loudly exclaiming to himself that he thought his sleeping roommate was an alien. wherebugsgo shook his head as he waited. Was it only in his head? Was the presence real? As suddenly as the presence had come, it went. The search must continue, he thought. "I'm getting closer." Eventually, wherebugsgo came across an empty room, door ajar. The lights didn't work.
Searching through the dark, wherebugsgo came upon a shattered console and a worn logbook. Someone, or something had been here before him. It was then that he felt a wetness at his legs.
Whipping around, wherebugsgo saw it was merely the station's homely dog. "God damn it layabout you worthless mongrel," he hissed, punting the canine toward the door. "Stop acting like an alien!" The dog whimpered and left, scampering down the hallway into the darkness. It was then that the real terror arose. The banging sounds were incessant.
"Sounds like we got some motherfucking alien snakes on this motherfucking space plane," he thought to himself as he fingered his laser pistol and closed the door. The display of the broken console flickered and sputtered, sparking intermittently. Suddenly, wherebugsgo felt the presence in the room, and as quickly as they began, the sounds ceased.
"The energy is strong with this one," he thought, hairs standing on end, breathing rapidly. He then felt a touch on his shoulder. Turning around, the lights flicked on, blinding him.
"It is I. Your voice of reason." Ace had stepped into the room. With the light it was clear that there had been a different sort of presence not very long ago. The screen of the dead console was splattered with green goo, previously obscured by the darkness. The room had clearly been ravaged. Before he could say anything, the banging began once more.
Ace and wherebugsgo both knew at that instant that there was only one solution: go out with guns blazing.+ Show Spoiler +
I would rather randomly elect a captain than trust the people around me with votes. We could use inca vs nestea results as the seed value in a random number generator? (possible seed values if we use a bo3 SC match are 03, 30, 13, 31, 23, 32)
Current thoughts on the three major mayor candidates:
sandroba: Kinda wants to be mayor for the power. He is pretty much saying that if he's elected, he will run a dictatorship. I don't really like this.
Ace: As usual, his concise posts make a shit ton of sense. I'd also vote for him to prevent him from being stupidly killed for the heck of it.
GMarshal: Does look like the best candidate. Playing his true town meta and also helping out newer players. With bonus "^_^" (lol). My vote's going on him for now.
On April 14 2012 11:35 RayzorFlash wrote: Re: EchelonTee -
Did you actually read my posts??? :S
My first post was me running for captain, I felt there wasn't that much flavor in there, a lot of it was my stance on key matters, as well as ideas regarding transparency, etc.
My second post was me changing my mind since I realized that if I had to make an executive decision i'd most likely be wrong in my reads and it'd be better for town to have a better player in the role. If you actually read the parts that you label, it contains me outlining characteristics that would make a good mayor and why I think GMarshal was a good choice for captaincy...
If you want to come up with someone to FoS at least put in the effort to read the posts fully. Don't just try to pick someone and come up with a random cause... That's something scum would do
It annoys the hell out of me when someone's response, in any medium, is "did you even read my posts?". Of course I read them. It really doesn't take that long to read like 4 paragraphs; I'm not looking for a summary of what you said, but an explanation for what I find to be suspicious behavior What I SAID about your post was that
Seems indecisive, just talking about said topic to talk about it.
Because you waver over the issues at hand without seeming to have a direct opinion, wanting to run for mayor but backing off quickly when it's apparent that your viewpoints are not popular, and not concisely stating what you think captain should do. I mean, compare your post to this one, of similar subject matter but absolutely different tone. I'm just calling it as I see it; that make me scum?
On April 14 2012 12:29 RayzorFlash wrote: Ace: My three paragraphs in my campaign speech 1: Decide who gets lynched by a vote, 2: Share hidden powers if captain gets any, 3: Dont get distracted by mechanics of how captain works and lets focus on hunting scum
If you plan on doing #3, I eagerly await it. My FoS is just a call for you to do more.
@l10f, prelims are pretty much over; you should have plenty of time to play the game, where are you?
@Sinani, ur doing that thing where you're really uncontroversial and lurky. If you've been active in PMs, you should have an idea of who you think is scum - who would you want captain to lynch?
For the vets who are planning on playing this game purely through PMs or whatever: discussing/developing reads through PMs in such a medium is definitely better for town (less chance of manipulation by scum), but when making decisions like voting for mayor, calling someone scum, it would be appreciated if the decision making process is clearly articulated.
There are a lot of newbies in this game (myself included) who are thinking "wtf all the vets are trolling doing shit", and while it has come to my attn that PM games often end up like this, if you want the myriad of newbies to be useful and not just a pack of lurky doods with not enough content to deduce alignment.
On April 14 2012 08:59 grush57 wrote: ##Unvote Froggynoddy Only the chosen pmers know why. ##Vote GMarshal Think he will do the right thing, seems townie.
Should I be worried?
I think I'm going to vote Ace, simply because I don't like the Sandroba, GM voting for each other business. THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH NOT COURTLY ETIQUETTE!!!
But seriously I don't like Sandroba's stance on PM-ing and the Captaincy in general. I also don't like GM's response to my question:
On April 14 2012 06:56 froggynoddy wrote: Ok, sorry for lack of activity, built a mobile donkey shelter and then went to restaurant... too much Cognac. Back to the game:
Comparing campaigners content, I would like to vote for GM. He makes by far the most sense out of all those running for mayor. He isn't gimicky, he isnt super pro PM-ing (which admittedly has its uses late game, but seems to confuse the hell out of stuff early game), and his stance regarding 'enlightened despot' vs 'democrat' appeals to me. What I don't like is his vote on Sandroba. Similarlyto the premise 'push a lynch that you believe will most likely result in scum flip', our votes for Mayor should be 'who you think is most likely to summarily execute scum'. So my question to you (GM) is this:
You don't know that Sandroba is town, if you are town then you know for sure that you are town, threrfore you are most likely to find scum. Therefore why vote for Sandroba unless he's your scumbuddy, I don't get it .
Because sandro is my strongest town read ^_^
Also I hardly ever vote for myself in elections, its not respectable. Its not a matter of logic, its a simple matter of if I can vote for the guy running against me and he votes for me, its the same net result, but its much more elegant. Is it stupid? Probably. I'm going to do it anyway.
I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself.
Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo.
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*
I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro
Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?
The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*
I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro
Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?
The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?
If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game
Does this apply to all voting or just lynch voting i.e. can you not vote for yourself as captain:
On April 14 2012 20:02 froggynoddy wrote: sorry, this bit:
If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game
Does this apply to all voting or just lynch voting i.e. can you not vote for yourself as captain:
I am saying that he is currently committing a lot of time and effort to the thread and is sharing a lot of thoughts and reads with lots of people. So he must be going through the thread and coming up with these reads. If he is scum he is giving himself plenty of opportunities to slip up. He would have to discuss his scumbuddies and describe why he think they are town, and explain why he suspects players that he knows are not scum. So it is likely that he would end up giving himself or his team mates away. This makes him a preferable candidate to somebody that has not made that commitment.
On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*
I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro
Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?
The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off
I guess You're going to be the Ciryandor v2! 1st You claim You don't have a lot of time to read the thread. Why would I care? Instead of this line it could say something helpful. 2nd "For being gentleman" - solid reason jubbie. The only one too. You're questioning Gmarsh as captain candidate and soft-pushing me without any proof. 3rd Then, You go full wishy-washy and say things about sandroba. You say that he can't be scum because a) He PMs people for a long time (null at best) b) [Has a magical plan of confirming Town which he doesn't want to share] (another one that You're not posting about, but isn't that an amazing point?) c) He has "better than average early reads" please, prove it. Why sandroba is better than GMarsh? You're trying to look sandroba better for not much reason, like trying to sway new players opinion on him.
You're scum, layabout.
This post is prime example how not to play scum.
I hope You were good friends with Wheatley and Space Core.
On April 14 2012 20:02 froggynoddy wrote: sorry, this bit:
If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game
Does this apply to all voting or just lynch voting i.e. can you not vote for yourself as captain:
I am saying that he is currently committing a lot of time and effort to the thread and is sharing a lot of thoughts and reads with lots of people. So he must be going through the thread and coming up with these reads. If he is scum he is giving himself plenty of opportunities to slip up. He would have to discuss his scumbuddies and describe why he think they are town, and explain why he suspects players that he knows are not scum. So it is likely that he would end up giving himself or his team mates away. This makes him a preferable candidate to somebody that has not made that commitment.
It was not a town read.
Why would You try to think what Mafia would do? Isn't it easier for Town player to think what OTHER Town player would do? Basically what You're saying is: "I think sandro is town. but I am not sure sandro is town."
@Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town? You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying.
On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote: @Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town? You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying.
Let's pretend you actually think i am scum and that you do not have an ulterior anti-town motive
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On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____*
I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro
Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum?
The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default.
Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this?
I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off
I guess You're going to be the Ciryandor v2! 1st You claim You don't have a lot of time to read the thread. Why would I care? Instead of this line it could say something helpful.
On April 13 2012 21:29 Maverick32x wrote: Sorry...at work on my phone... Clearly butchered that editing...
Yo... I don't want to sound bad... but stop with the dots, damnit. It makes Your posts look weird.
Wow. Srs?
And Your point is?
On April 13 2012 22:25 Kurumi wrote: It's not my fault some guy is posting off-topic and avoiding questions, come on. I agree that this kind of discussion is not needed, but I hoped I actually will get answers.
On April 13 2012 23:16 Coagulation wrote: sandroba rolefishing in PM land does look scummy as fuck. He needs to clarify why hes doing it.
I have no idea how you could make a call on ace this early with zero info on him. but if he doesnt end up killed by scum night1 or night2 hes likely scum.
Or he stumbles upon a graveyard while visiting a bar.
2nd "For being gentleman" - solid reason jubbie. The only one too. You're questioning Gmarsh as captain candidate and soft-pushing me without any proof.
If we take a look at your filter before i wrote that post (which goes up to this post) there is no evidence of scumhunting. Is that proof?* *Also see spoiler filled with spam + Show Spoiler +
Saying "sandro scum Ace town" is not scumhunting
3rd Then, You go full wishy-washy and say things about sandroba. You say that he can't be scum because a) He PMs people for a long time (null at best) b) [Has a magical plan of confirming Town which he doesn't want to share] (another one that You're not posting about, but isn't that an amazing point?) c) He has "better than average early reads" please, prove it. Why sandroba is better than GMarsh? You're trying to look sandroba better for not much reason, like trying to sway new players opinion on him.
I do not say he cannot be scum. At all. You are deliberately misinterpreting my post. Sandroba over GM because: Sandroba quite well in C9++ mafia and the 80 player game. The only GM game i remember reading was Responsibily (which was not a good game for him).
You're scum, layabout.
This post is prime example how not to play scum.
I hope You were good friends with Wheatley and Space Core.
Since i made that post i have had time to read the thread and i have talked to sandroba in PM's. I am confident that he is town but i would like to talk to GM before i decide and cast my vote.
Your response is nothing more than just attacking me, not the argument I am making. This is not how the game works. You just agreed with my points, thanks. I find it amazing that after I made a short post attacking layabout You're back together with sandroba. Mind posting logs with You two talking? You might omit all the plan chit-chat because somehow it's so magical that it can't be seen by others, because as I said MAFIA CONFIRMING TOWN, OMG! Prove that You're talking in PMs. Just because You say "sandroba made me confident he is town in pms" (D1, mind You) does not say anything to us.
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