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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 14:16 Sinensis wrote: I would rather randomly elect a captain than trust the people around me with votes. We could use inca vs nestea results as the seed value in a random number generator? (possible seed values if we use a bo3 SC match are 03, 30, 13, 31, 23, 32) How do we know that's random? You might have tried seeds until it gave you the result you wanted. Plus, random vote is stupid. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On April 14 2012 21:24 sandroba wrote: @Kurumi can you quit your nonsense? Can you explain why the fuck do you think I'm scum? Why do you think Ace is town? You never bothered even trying to ask me anything when I tried to communicate with you in pms, you just trolled me and you jumped to the conclusion I was lying without a second thought and no effort to understand what I was saying. You refused to explain Your plan in the thread. I don't believe in breaking the setup by one guy having all the roleclaims, because that's what I know now. Things I do in PM land are things I do because I want. Want some logs? 3/4 are trolling and there are only two people I actually did not troll. + Show Spoiler [Acrofales convo] + He wants to talk to everybody, announces his skype publicly and shit I am not into PMs bro He asked me to claim and I did not. stupid black and yellow shit so basically you're saying that he claimed the same role you have, ok fine good stuff okay tough shit anything else also don't claim just because. D1 claiming is fucking retarded, D2 is borderline retarded and D3 claiming is maybe semi okay if you know like for 99% about someone he's town unless you're on a horse, then just disregard this advice and keep rollin them biomass bitches into the ground with lies Original Message From Acrofales: Okay. He roleclaimed to me and I know the claim is a town role. Now he could've gotten the role from another townie, but somewhere he had to start. It only hit me afterwards that his claim does not make him town auto-town. Can you give me some more information? I've never played a PM game with sandro before, so his meta is unreadable to me. Original Message From Kurumi: Leaning scum because he started this game the same way he does his scum pm ones Original Message From Acrofales: You think he's town or scum? Original Message From Kurumi: yeah I talked to sandro so what Original Message From Acrofales: You said buttseks in D2... so I'll pass on your ass today. Now. Why you avoiding my question? Original Message From Kurumi: PM games tend to have lower activity and suprise buttsex action starting D2. Now grab my ass Original Message From Acrofales: No. I am just trying to figure out this PM game. You talked to sandroba yet? I also hate TL's PM system, which is why skype. I accept googletalk or msn as well. Original Message From Kurumi: no skype sucks Are You scared? Original Message From Acrofales: Mind adding me on skype? + Show Spoiler [sandroba convo] + + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo convo] + Shitty love story and shit shitty yo i tell ya he is good tho Original Message From wherebugsgo: why jackal Hide nested quote - Original Message From Kurumi: Bugger i vote jackal good guy yo Original Message From wherebugsgo: I like you. who are you going to vote for captain? Original Message From Kurumi: I like trains no he not being my partner bugger bigger big Original Message From wherebugsgo: are you his scumbuddy kurumi Original Message From Kurumi: Mimimimimi mimimi mimimi + Show Spoiler [Ace convo] + I have two more or something but I don't care | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On April 14 2012 21:55 Kurumi wrote: Your response is nothing more than just attacking me, not the argument I am making. This is not how the game works. You just agreed with my points, thanks. I find it amazing that after I made a short post attacking layabout You're back together with sandroba. Mind posting logs with You two talking? You might omit all the plan chit-chat because somehow it's so magical that it can't be seen by others, because as I said MAFIA CONFIRMING TOWN, OMG! Prove that You're talking in PMs. Just because You say "sandroba made me confident he is town in pms" (D1, mind You) does not say anything to us. My response highlights that your argument is contradictory. You are acussing me for:
I also don't care about the "plan" since it cannot happen anyway. Isn't this it? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327685¤tpage=10#192 I cannot "prove" that we are talking in PM's but i can share this if you like + Show Spoiler [deliberately worthless skype logs] + [13/04/2012 13:41:10] No name: it's layabout [13/04/2012 13:41:44] Sandro Maculan: Sandro Maculan has shared contact details with No name. [13/04/2012 13:42:07] Sandro Maculan: hey [13/04/2012 13:42:14] No name: hello [13/04/2012 13:42:41] No name: i am going to be playing lol for about an hour an then i am going offline [13/04/2012 13:42:53] No name: i am not sure whether i should support you as majo [13/04/2012 13:42:54] No name: y [13/04/2012 13:43:04] No name: *mayor [13/04/2012 13:43:17] No name: or whether i am still bitter about GoT mafia [13/04/2012 13:43:34] Sandro Maculan: hahaha [13/04/2012 13:43:40] Sandro Maculan: sorry about that [13/04/2012 13:43:56] Sandro Maculan: you did play exactly like you did the other game though =P [13/04/2012 13:44:00] No name: i was in 3 games [13/04/2012 13:44:10] No name: i was afk for the first 24 hours [13/04/2012 13:44:17] Sandro Maculan: i didn't even push you tbh =P [13/04/2012 13:44:26] Sandro Maculan: but yeah i failed that game [13/04/2012 13:44:33] Sandro Maculan: except for chaoser my reads were shit [13/04/2012 13:44:34] No name: town failed that game [13/04/2012 13:44:58] No name: it was mostly risens fault [13/04/2012 13:46:42] Sandro Maculan: what do you think about l10f and maverick [13/04/2012 13:46:52] Sandro Maculan: those 2 are my main suspects so far [13/04/2012 13:47:02] Sandro Maculan: and ace who is being unhelpful in pms [13/04/2012 13:47:29] No name: i have honestly been awake for about an hour so i haven't even read the thread yet [13/04/2012 13:47:59] No name: but i will bare that in mind and i will try to talk over my thoughts with you [13/04/2012 13:47:59] Sandro Maculan: how come you want to support me already then =P [13/04/2012 13:48:07] No name: because you are good [13/04/2012 13:48:20] No name: bugs respects you [13/04/2012 13:48:22] Sandro Maculan: doesn't mean I'm town though [13/04/2012 13:48:58] No name: ah well [13/04/2012 13:49:52] No name: i will make a proper decsion later [13/04/2012 13:49:55] Sandro Maculan: you made a new skype to add me to tell me you are thinking about supporting me [13/04/2012 13:50:03] No name: but for now i have to go [13/04/2012 13:50:04] Sandro Maculan: before having a read? [13/04/2012 13:50:07] Sandro Maculan: =P [13/04/2012 13:50:09] No name: this is my old skyp [13/04/2012 13:50:13] No name: i used it in storm [13/04/2012 13:50:15] Sandro Maculan: oh [13/04/2012 13:50:27] Sandro Maculan: nice name =P The reason i feel that he is town is that he responds quickly with reasonable opinions to questions about the game. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
Doc, can you please edit out my skype info in Kurumi's post? Thanks | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On April 14 2012 22:12 Acrofales wrote: Mind not posting my skype info in the thread :S I get enough spam as is, thank you. Other than that, it's all fine. Doc, can you please edit out my skype info in Kurumi's post? Thanks Sorry, did not think about this. If Doc allows me to edit out my post I will. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote: Which town read? Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little. That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 18:16 froggynoddy wrote: Should I be worried? I think I'm going to vote Ace, simply because I don't like the Sandroba, GM voting for each other business. THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH NOT COURTLY ETIQUETTE!!! But seriously I don't like Sandroba's stance on PM-ing and the Captaincy in general. I also don't like GM's response to my question: I don't see the Sandroba town thing, plus surely at this early stage the only town read that could be described as in any way strong is yourself. Also we should vote for the person who least wants the captaincy, far more likely to be town imo. ##Vote Ace Then why are you voting for Ace. You should be voting for a random person among the lurkers. They clearly don't want the captaincy, they're not even making a campaign! Or, if you don't like the lurkers, vote for Rayzor. He's managed to put his name forward and say he's a bad candidate in the same sentence! My bullshit detector is in overdrive here. Why are you voting for Ace? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote: Remember this post? That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! You seem angry. Why? Most interesting thing in this post is not about layabout, it's about you, sandroba and ace. You are using a dupe to voice your suspicions of Sandroba. You've already made them perfectly clear. I am wondering why you think Ace's single post is so much better? I have a complete null read on Ace. His post is good, but it's not townie, nor scummy to make that post, especially for someone campaiging as mayor. You haven't even talked about the third candidate GM, except in passing. What do you think about GM? Why is Ace better than GM? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On April 14 2012 22:30 Acrofales wrote: Then why are you voting for Ace. You should be voting for a random person among the lurkers. They clearly don't want the captaincy, they're not even making a campaign! Or, if you don't like the lurkers, vote for Rayzor. He's managed to put his name forward and say he's a bad candidate in the same sentence! My bullshit detector is in overdrive here. Why are you voting for Ace? Oh, so at least one of GM and Sand is scum. Interesting.. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
The point about voting voting for the guy who doesn't want the captaincy was more of an afterthought and my logic goes along the lines that only scum or egocentric/aggressive/confident townies would actually ask for captaincy. Therefore I felt there was a higher chance of voting in townie if we went for someone who posted in a pro-town way, but didn't actually ask to be made captain. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Ace had a couple of posts already which are mostly pure pointing out things we could've missed out. I said already I am going to vote the person against sandroba, so it'll probably be GM. I'd like someone like talismania as Captain but he/she doesn't seem to be interested in being one. GMarsh although said sandro is his best Town read. Most of his points are crucial too, like one about how democratic voting for D1 Lynch is bad. His pressure on Zentor is good too. Couple of things about Ace: 1st People wanted/want him lynched for no reason. I see no reason for the scum team to spout such nonsense on their team mate. The other way for this is that no scum ever voiced opinion on this matter, which might be possible. 2nd He's making good points, like saving good players instead of lynching them as fast as You can just because they're good. It's not like I am 100% Ace is town. I just don't think he would pick up the lost things if he was scum. Disinformation's good for Mafia. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 23:14 Kurumi wrote: So, what's happening now? People are PM'ing me. How bout you? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 22:43 MrZentor wrote: Oh, so at least one of GM and Sand is scum. Interesting.. How do you reach that conclusion? I would like to hear your logic. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever. Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On April 14 2012 23:18 Kurumi wrote: Silence, pretty worried that scumteam waits for some vet to get some kind of case rolling on whoever. Do You think Captain will be something more than usual bodyguard stuff? I'm hoping captain gets the actual number of "threats", but anything beyond "he gets to decide the first lynch" is all speculation about game mechanics and extremely pointless. Why you worried about scum making cases? You easily convinced? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On April 14 2012 23:22 Acrofales wrote: I'm hoping captain gets the actual number of "threats", but anything beyond "he gets to decide the first lynch" is all speculation about game mechanics and extremely pointless. Why you worried about scum making cases? You easily convinced? Yeah, since this is a 30 man themed game scumteam will probably be 4-6 depending on 3rd party present. I actually think that such an ability would be pretty good (maybe jailing instead? makes sense) I am worried because of huge amount of newbies and they might get easily convinced. It usually plays out that vets are from US (not many good/vets in EU). We'll see. Just stay sharp. | ||
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