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Alright, my Sheth read.
I am not going to post a massive text wall, it is 7:30am on a Saturday, give me a little break 
These things bothered me. He seems to really want to talk about blue roles, I don't see the value in this and the potential risk. If we have blues, discussing roles can lead to an outing which is bad for all. Despite my constant requests for this to stop, he has kept on about them.
Most of his posts are fluff (admittedly discussions with me took up quite a few).
He blatant support of Xeris with this as his reasoning
Well, the Xeris thing is based completely on the fact that I know him really well IRL and we've played mafia a bunch before. He is really bad mafia. Like he'd be lurking and mod killed if he was mafia.
And his posts about why he doesn't want to lynch someone this day are what I initially thought too when I went from IRL games to forum posts. So just the fact that he is usually terrible as mafia and whenever hes used that excuse in the past hes always been town + hes playing just how I imagine a townie Xeris playing gives me a good read. Hes one of the only two I know IRL, so its easier for me to get a read on him then the rest of you.
That last line is particularly bad. It is clear that online and offline mafia are totally different, Sheth knows this from playing two games yet he is pretty certain that Xeris is town based on his offline play? The only reason you are certain of someone's alignment is when they flip or if you are scum.
His case on Cookie amounted to
Let me go re-read / filter cookie. His one post that stuck out to me was him defending Cephiro and saying he was extremely pro-town. Honestly though, with just remembering cookies lines I don't think anything really stuck out. Will go re-read now..
I read through CookieMaker's / A K C T's filter. Cookie's filter looked a little bad. He talked a lot about his read on CatsNHats and then never posted it. A K C T I like that your asking questions, but could you please post a few reads you have as well?
Which was enough to put his scum list as
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry
Cephiro pointed out his dropping of the Ceph case until I posted mine.
Points in his favour
He is active and was the first to call out both Cats and Cephiro. He is happy to respond and get engaged in large discussions. He voted early for AKCT who was already on his list of scum reads.
So in short my read is still null  I can justify what he says from both a townie and scum perspective which makes him hard to read. I am still suspicious and will have a reread later in the day when I have more time and am a little more awake
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On January 07 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:And I am saying that my post is perfectly fine. Just because you guys have said something while I wasn't able to post in the thread doesn't mean I can't post my view of the lynch. And yes, I wanted to encourage Cats to continue, I don't care wheather you or prob did it. And yeah, my WIFOM was WIFOM but I explained why I won't be going after Xeris and Gretorp for not voting.
Pleeease feel free to pursuit this, but if you want to make a case on me, go through my filter and dig up some more. Only good thing about your post is that you got my attention, before you have pretty much been floating under the radar for me.
What? Is this some subtle OMGUS or something?
You also said "I beg all of you to analyse this lynch and the reasoning the people had behind their vote. ", and I don't see you doing anything about it.
Only good thing about your post is that you got my attention, before you have pretty much been floating under the radar for me.
....what?
I've been flying under the radar? Wtf is this?
I will pursue this because I find it odd as hell, both your post and your response. I don't have to make a case, why would I do that? I am not FoSing you, I just want answers.
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On January 07 2012 06:12 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:And I am saying that my post is perfectly fine. Just because you guys have said something while I wasn't able to post in the thread doesn't mean I can't post my view of the lynch. And yes, I wanted to encourage Cats to continue, I don't care wheather you or prob did it. And yeah, my WIFOM was WIFOM but I explained why I won't be going after Xeris and Gretorp for not voting.
Pleeease feel free to pursuit this, but if you want to make a case on me, go through my filter and dig up some more. Only good thing about your post is that you got my attention, before you have pretty much been floating under the radar for me. What? Is this some subtle OMGUS or something? You also said "I beg all of you to analyse this lynch and the reasoning the people had behind their vote. ", and I don't see you doing anything about it. Show nested quote +Only good thing about your post is that you got my attention, before you have pretty much been floating under the radar for me. ....what? I've been flying under the radar? Wtf is this? I will pursue this because I find it odd as hell, both your post and your response. I don't have to make a case, why would I do that? I am not FoSing you, I just want answers.
No, it is not an OMGUS of you as a whole, it is a OMGUS of that post you made to me though...
You have been flying under the radar for ME, I haven't paid much attention to you at all, and kind of had a null read on you. I am not saying you have flown under the radar as a whole, as you have a fair amount of posts. Your post makes me want to go through your filter, which is a good thing.
You are free to post however you want, but I don't see you getting much more out of nitpicking on my one post here. I have answered you now to why I posted as I did(which I really don't think should be necessary, as it was my reaction to the lynch).
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On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon.
That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why.
On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch.
Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel...
On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D!
...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit?
On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote.
This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird.
On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol
You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok.
So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you!
Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new?
Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning?
RE: Hippo -
I just realized how you worded this.
On January 05 2012 16:04 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I might not be able to go through everything in time so I'll make a placeholder vote and hope I have time tomorrow morning to change it if need be.
##vote:Xeris
This is more of a pressure vote atm, since all his done is said he disagrees with RL and then says he doesn't want to lynch at all first day. Since all the pressure's been on cephira and CM he's been quiet.
You say that you will go over everything tomorrow morning and change a vote if need be. What? If it's not on time, you will just not vote, or leave it on Xeris?
On January 06 2012 08:36 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I haven't been able to go through everything as well as I hoped but we need a lynch. There was a lot of discussion on Cephiro but I haven't been able to read through it thoroughly enough so I'm going for Tea
##Unvote: Xeris
##Vote: A Killer Cuppa Tea
Wow. Stellar. So you jump on this lynch train and don't even bother to explain why. Not only that, but you pretty much indicate that you are going off of what other people have discussed, and not come up with anything concrete on you're own, pretty much re-leaving all pressure from you if it's a miss-lynch.
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On January 07 2012 06:19 Tunkeg wrote:
No, it is not an OMGUS of you as a whole, it is a OMGUS of that post you made to me though...
You have been flying under the radar for ME, I haven't paid much attention to you at all, and kind of had a null read on you. I am not saying you have flown under the radar as a whole, as you have a fair amount of posts. Your post makes me want to go through your filter, which is a good thing.
It's not my fault you didn't pay attention to me.
Of course it's good reading other people's filters and analysing, it's what you are supposed to do.
You are free to post however you want, but I don't see you getting much more out of nitpicking on my one post here. I have answered you now to why I posted as I did(which I really don't think should be necessary, as it was my reaction to the lynch).
Hmm....fine then.
So how about you do that "analysing peoples reasons for their votes"?
What do you find?
What do you think about Blurry for instance? And about those that bandwagoned to avoid the NL?
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On January 07 2012 06:24 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 06:19 Tunkeg wrote:
No, it is not an OMGUS of you as a whole, it is a OMGUS of that post you made to me though...
You have been flying under the radar for ME, I haven't paid much attention to you at all, and kind of had a null read on you. I am not saying you have flown under the radar as a whole, as you have a fair amount of posts. Your post makes me want to go through your filter, which is a good thing. It's not my fault you didn't pay attention to me. Of course it's good reading other people's filters and analysing, it's what you are supposed to do. Show nested quote +You are free to post however you want, but I don't see you getting much more out of nitpicking on my one post here. I have answered you now to why I posted as I did(which I really don't think should be necessary, as it was my reaction to the lynch). Hmm....fine then. So how about you do that "analysing peoples reasons for their votes"? What do you find? What do you think about Blurry for instance? And about those that bandwagoned to avoid the NL?
Where did I ever say it was your fault? I just said you know have caught my attention. Are you trying to missunderstand me on purpose?
How about me analysing peoples at my own discretion, this is night, and then we have the entire day 2 to do it, meaning I can do some good analysis (hopefully) instead of rushing into some bad analysis that is useless.
I'll answer your last question though: Blurry haven't posted all that many posts, made some one liner analysis on everyone. He was one of the first to vote CM/AKCT (that in itself means nothing), but his reasoning for it was pretty weak. Does this make him more or less scummy then others voting for AKCT? Well, there were players in on the lynch who certantly had much better reasoning behind their votes, but there where also alot of players who had much less reasoning behind it.
Those who bandwagoned to avoid NL, well, it all depends on their reasoning behind their votes. Some of those who jumped like Prob had allready a scumread on CM/AKCT and is alot less suspicious then others.
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On January 07 2012 06:20 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon. That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why. Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch. Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel... Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D! ...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit? Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote. This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok. So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early? + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new? Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning? RE: Hippo - I just realized how you worded this. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 16:04 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I might not be able to go through everything in time so I'll make a placeholder vote and hope I have time tomorrow morning to change it if need be.
##vote:Xeris
This is more of a pressure vote atm, since all his done is said he disagrees with RL and then says he doesn't want to lynch at all first day. Since all the pressure's been on cephira and CM he's been quiet.
You say that you will go over everything tomorrow morning and change a vote if need be. What? If it's not on time, you will just not vote, or leave it on Xeris? Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 08:36 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I haven't been able to go through everything as well as I hoped but we need a lynch. There was a lot of discussion on Cephiro but I haven't been able to read through it thoroughly enough so I'm going for Tea
##Unvote: Xeris
##Vote: A Killer Cuppa Tea Wow. Stellar. So you jump on this lynch train and don't even bother to explain why. Not only that, but you pretty much indicate that you are going off of what other people have discussed, and not come up with anything concrete on you're own, pretty much re-leaving all pressure from you if it's a miss-lynch.
So, whats your lead on CatsnHats? I'll answer all the rest after this.
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+ Show Spoiler +@Catsnhats -
I think you're scum.
First, you start off on the wrong foot by lurking. You're very first post after game start is a post essentially saying "Sorry for not posting, I was reading though!"
Second post, Sheth calls you out for being committed to no-lynch policy. Than you back up and reword it saying that you know it's a scum-tell to be committed to a policy lynch. You admitted it.
But than you realized you fucked up, and try to backtrack in the same post, throwing suspicion off of you.
Read this, and tell me how back it looks.
On January 04 2012 11:52 CatsnHats wrote:
Yeah I'm around. Just reading the thread and getting a sense of the situation since I've never played before. It would seem that not lynching unless reasonably certain would be the way to go. Although I'm not sure how we could be certain of anything on D1.
On January 04 2012 12:34 CatsnHats wrote:
Thanks CookieMaker for the link. And you're right Sheth, if I am leaning toward no lynch that would be a red flag for scum. But wouldn't emphatically being in favor of a lynch be a red flag for scum too since the odds are in favor of townie being accidentally chosen? Oh God this is gonna be so meta.
Than, in the post RIGHT AFTER IT, you try to joke around with the guy putting pressure on you, and than 100% flip from you're original thoughts on no-lynch policy. You say that we need to lynch, because "any information gleaned" is still information. What happened to you're stance of not lynching unless reasonably certain?
I think, even though you try to rectify it later, you realized you're mistake too late. You already made the slip, so at that point, you tried to simply recover.
On January 05 2012 01:44 CatsnHats wrote:
Show nested quote +
Lurking around at the beginning, writing a paragraph of text that amounts to nothing, and then OMGUS-ing the person that prods you... not a good look Gretorp. Pretty scummy if you ask me.
You take this information and don't do anything with it. You sit there, daring him to respond, but afraid to piss him off. The first two comments are things that YOU DID YOURSELF and yet you accuse another player of it. "Hold on while I try to direct attention away from me."
You continue spouting stuff out which really doesn't have that much substance to it. You accuse Tunkeg of being "overaggressive townie." How does that translate into you becoming suspicious to him!? In the same post, you tell him that you will become suspicious of him if he keeps his aggression up. Are you afraid he will change his target to you? Or one of you're mafia friends?
After that, you change you're top three scum-reads on two people who haven't even given enough analysis to decide yet. How can you have a scum read on someone who hasn't posted more than a page, let alone more than three total posts? Than you get on CookieMaker. You're first and last choice to lynch are obviously lurker policy kills. Divert that attention, bro. You jump on Gretorp after a few people already did, giving me the impression that you are bandwagon voting.
Interesting.
Than you keep pressing and pressing Gretorp, hoping and hoping he will post something. It seems like you think you slipped under the radar.
You didn't.
##Vote: CatsnHats
ProfBA did the same thing that Cats is doing now, in my opinion. Self-destructing and trying to earn town cred.
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@Jitsu, you posted after my question. Could you answer it really quick?
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On January 07 2012 06:38 Tunkeg wrote:Where did I ever say it was your fault? I just said you know have caught my attention. Are you trying to missunderstand me on purpose?
What? I'm not misunderstanding you.
I was implying it's your fault you didn't pay attention to me earlier.
You should pay attention to everybody.
How about me analysing peoples at my own discretion, this is night, and then we have the entire day 2 to do it, meaning I can do some good analysis (hopefully) instead of rushing into some bad analysis that is useless.
Why wait?
I'd prefer to not waste time and pressure and analyse as soon as possible.
It may give us more precious time on Day 2.
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On January 07 2012 07:47 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 06:38 Tunkeg wrote:Where did I ever say it was your fault? I just said you know have caught my attention. Are you trying to missunderstand me on purpose? What? I'm not misunderstanding you. I was implying it's your fault you didn't pay attention to me earlier. You should pay attention to everybody. Show nested quote +How about me analysing peoples at my own discretion, this is night, and then we have the entire day 2 to do it, meaning I can do some good analysis (hopefully) instead of rushing into some bad analysis that is useless. Why wait? I'd prefer to not waste time and pressure and analyse as soon as possible. It may give us more precious time on Day 2.
OK, either my english sucks or your english sucks, or both of our english sucks. Or maybe you are just a nitpicker, who want to bicker about every little detail. Fine, whatever. Ofc it is my "fault" for not paying attention to you, but you were just posting so much uninteresting, but not scummy, stuff that I didn't take interest in you. But when you did your "analysis" of my post you caught my attention. Because anyone wanting to waste peoples time by doing those kind of analysis should be looked into. And looked into you I have. You have alot of these non-interesting and non content posts, but inbetween you have some good posts where you question and pressure people and do reads. I find it ironic that you try to call me out for what you belive is a non-content post when you have so many yourself.
I don't care what you prefer. How do you feel about that?
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@gonz
BTW post you own damn analysis if you feel it is so important to get it done as soon as possible. If that is your stand, do that. And make a good analysis, not just these bad ones, like the one you did for my post.
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On January 07 2012 07:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Jitsu, you posted after my question. Could you answer it really quick?
I've already posted my entire case on Cats. You totally neglected to comment on it the first time. The fact he self-destructed when pressured doesn't fix anything for me.
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On January 07 2012 08:10 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 07:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Jitsu, you posted after my question. Could you answer it really quick? I've already posted my entire case on Cats. You totally neglected to comment on it the first time. The fact he self-destructed when pressured doesn't fix anything for me.
Was that the question? To give you my leads on Cats?
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On January 07 2012 06:20 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon. That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why. Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch. Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel... Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D! ...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit? Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote. This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok. So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early? + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new? Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning?
Ok then, you think Cats is scum.
At the beginning I could have pressured Cats more, I agree. However it appeared he simply didn't understand the basics of Mafia. However shortly after, I started putting most of my attention on looking at Cephiro. I didn't just stop all pressure on him though however like you assumed. It was just a temporary relieve to let him relax and get comfy again before taking away that relaxed state really quickly.
The next post saying that he looked "oh so scummy" was merely a way to get some pressure back on him. Also, its the first day. I'm not letting people go. I'm simply moving on to different people, it doesn't mean I can't and won't bring it back up. As you've noticed I'm currently pro lynching Cephiro. In fact I think he should be our #1 lynch target tomorrow.
As for me going to the A K C T bandwagon your welcome to read my filter. Considering you made me read yours instead of just saying "I think hes scum" have fun reading mine again.
And yes, right now I'm leaning Cats as town. I've also posted my reasoning for that. However I'm not "letting him off the hook". If he doesn't stay active then hes an obvious lynch target. However as of now hes posting and hes posting a lot. You say at the beginning that we shouldn't just wait and let him make more scum slips. Well, I don't think he should be our lynch target today, you think he should be sense you think hes scum?
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Jitsu, Tunk, enough with the back and forth. It should be pretty clear you are both town to anyone paying attention. Don't waste your time arguing over a single badly worded post.
You both voted for AKCT before anyone else, that should be enough to ensure that you both did not jump on the wagon. You started it. Save your analysis for people who are possibly scum. This is just spamming the thread and making it difficult to spot other people's posts.
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On January 07 2012 09:02 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 06:20 Jitsu wrote:On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon. That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why. On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch. Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel... On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D! ...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit? On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote. This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird. On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok. So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early? + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new? Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning? Ok then, you think Cats is scum. At the beginning I could have pressured Cats more, I agree. However it appeared he simply didn't understand the basics of Mafia. However shortly after, I started putting most of my attention on looking at Cephiro. I didn't just stop all pressure on him though however like you assumed. It was just a temporary relieve to let him relax and get comfy again before taking away that relaxed state really quickly. The next post saying that he looked "oh so scummy" was merely a way to get some pressure back on him. Also, its the first day. I'm not letting people go. I'm simply moving on to different people, it doesn't mean I can't and won't bring it back up. As you've noticed I'm currently pro lynching Cephiro. In fact I think he should be our #1 lynch target tomorrow. As for me going to the A K C T bandwagon your welcome to read my filter. Considering you made me read yours instead of just saying "I think hes scum" have fun reading mine again. And yes, right now I'm leaning Cats as town. I've also posted my reasoning for that. However I'm not "letting him off the hook". If he doesn't stay active then hes an obvious lynch target. However as of now hes posting and hes posting a lot. You say at the beginning that we shouldn't just wait and let him make more scum slips. Well, I don't think he should be our lynch target today, you think he should be sense you think hes scum?
Sheth, can you read Ceph's filter again, focusing on his defense of my accusation and his subsequent posts. Does it change your opinion at all? If so why or why not?
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I haven't read his defense yet at all, I plan on making a big post on him after the night phase is over talking about the defense and such. Hopefully you don't mind waiting until morning.
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I skimmed his defense just don't want to post on it till I've read it over slowly and actually thought about it deeply. Slight miss speak on last post.
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On January 07 2012 08:05 Tunkeg wrote:OK, either my english sucks or your english sucks, or both of our english sucks. Or maybe you are just a nitpicker, who want to bicker about every little detail. Fine, whatever. Ofc it is my "fault" for not paying attention to you, but you were just posting so much uninteresting, but not scummy, stuff that I didn't take interest in you.
I don't get what "you" are bickering about here.
You posted that you didn't pay attention to me until now.
I posted that I agreed, and you should have in the first place.
I don't get what's to "nitpick" here...? Or what this has to do with our English (..es? I don't know the plural)...?
But when you did your "analysis" of my post you caught my attention. Because anyone wanting to waste peoples time by doing those kind of analysis should be looked into.
Okay, I really want other people to tell me if my "analysis" is "useless".
I don't believe it is.
I try to pick up inconsistencies and odd behaviour from anyone I can, that's how I catch scum.
I picked up yours, and suddenly it's "useless".
Really? So my "analysis" is bad just because I did it on you?
And looked into you I have. You have alot of these non-interesting and non content posts, but inbetween you have some good posts where you question and pressure people and do reads. I find it ironic that you try to call me out for what you belive is a non-content post when you have so many yourself.
I don't care what you prefer. How do you feel about that?
What?
Please, if you find a post from mine similar to yours in terms of fluffiness (or whatever you call it in this forum) be my guest.
I try to be blunt and catch scum, not post "updates of what I feel" or whatever you did.
Also, as you can see, this conversation is not helping anyone.
You are stating things without backing them up (that I have "non-interesting posts" for instance, I don't get what you mean by that).
You are also stating blatantly false things (that I "misunderstood you"), and you are being very apathetic and chlidish in a way (you say you will post your analysis whenever you like, and that you post whatever you like, that you don't care what I prefer, etc).
This doesn't mean that you are scum, but it means that you are being unnecessary helpless and obtuse.
On January 07 2012 08:08 Tunkeg wrote:
@gonz
BTW post you own damn analysis if you feel it is so important to get it done as soon as possible. If that is your stand, do that. And make a good analysis, not just these bad ones, like the one you did for my post.
I already posted my analysis, go reread the thread.
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