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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 22 2014 00:24 GMT
#43461
This lovely drama is why I read the ABL in the first place :D! The last few pages were DELICIOUS!! Keep it up!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 22 2014 00:24 GMT
#43462
On January 22 2014 09:23 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 09:16 nunez wrote:
seems fairly obvious that he was banned for chastizing moonbear. extremely tragic considering what sparked their feud long ago (atrocious moderating). i too hold a personal grudge against moonbear (atrocious moderating), but i have learned from sam!zdat's misteak.


Actually, I didn't even see the Moonbear comment until AFTER I banned him. Just made me even more certain I'd made the right call.

to be fair, until I looked more closely I also thought it was for questioning the moonbear ban (I think it was perfectly good).
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 22 2014 00:25 GMT
#43463
On January 22 2014 07:54 lichter wrote:
Finally someone banned sam. He was not worth having around. Sure he seemed more intelligent than the average poster and had controversial opinions that sparked discussion, but he was also an asshole. I was just discussing with Shellbot yesterday that I eagerly await the hero that finally pulls the trigger.

Yeah, intelligent posts are completely wasted if they sound like they're being written by a jerkwad who's already decided he's right. Then you're not really sparking any sort of discussion or sharing ideas in a constructive manner, you're just flamebaiting. The fact that sam didn't bother to tone down his posts after so many warnings speaks rather ill of him (i.e. he just wanted to hear himself talk and chastise people rather than actually enlighten people or whatever he was on about half the time).
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 22 2014 00:26 GMT
#43464
'Bout time we had some action in this thread.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 22 2014 00:28 GMT
#43465
double kill.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 22 2014 00:29 GMT
#43466
On January 22 2014 09:22 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 09:21 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On January 22 2014 08:46 Roe wrote:
I honestly don't get why Sam was banned. I even reported him once for that comment about jerking off baboons or whatever (with the baby's first nietzche) but that was because it was nothing but an attack. I found the comment he was banned for to be fairly benign, and fairly similar to his usual posts, while being more interesting and intelligent than 99% of posters. Oh well.


You do realize his "usual posts" were the problem, right?


I didn't see the problem. Enlighten me, if you wish


See:

On January 22 2014 09:25 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:54 lichter wrote:
Finally someone banned sam. He was not worth having around. Sure he seemed more intelligent than the average poster and had controversial opinions that sparked discussion, but he was also an asshole. I was just discussing with Shellbot yesterday that I eagerly await the hero that finally pulls the trigger.

Yeah, intelligent posts are completely wasted if they sound like they're being written by a jerkwad who's already decided he's right. Then you're not really sparking any sort of discussion or sharing ideas in a constructive manner, you're just flamebaiting. The fact that sam didn't bother to tone down his posts after so many warnings speaks rather ill of him (i.e. he just wanted to hear himself talk and chastise people rather than actually enlighten people or whatever he was on about half the time).

Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 00:30:42
January 22 2014 00:29 GMT
#43467
The ABL Great Purge is here! I will be surprised if we can get past this page without anymore red
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 22 2014 00:30 GMT
#43468
Lol, IgnE. This is entertaining.

Did nunez really "request" the ban or is that reason just tongue-in-cheek?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 22 2014 00:32 GMT
#43469
On January 22 2014 09:30 babylon wrote:
Lol, IgnE. This is entertaining.

Did nunez really "request" the ban or is that reason just tongue-in-cheek?


He wrote in the "had been banned for this post" redtext himself. So another mod treated it like a request and actually DID temp ban him.

Failed attempt to martyr, I guess.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 22 2014 00:42 GMT
#43470
With the start of the new WCS season is a wave of highly entertaining bans
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 22 2014 01:04 GMT
#43471
On January 22 2014 06:26 Aerisky wrote:
Oof.

holy crap ur an archon :O
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 22 2014 01:06 GMT
#43472
On January 22 2014 06:04 packrat386 wrote:
I knew Sam had a history, and I had kind of prepared myself for his eventual perm. Still, sad to see him go.

You told me he was going to get banned a couple of weeks ago. And now it happened. But when we can see it that far out, they should to or learn by touching the stove. Over and over and over.
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TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 01:15:45
January 22 2014 01:15 GMT
#43473
Saw TheKefka's post in that wedding thread, figured it was just satire or w/e, not that it wasn't a bit odd but moved on. Who would've known that was the final straw lol. Can't say much for sam since I haven't had to interact with him but he has quite the reputation around ABL in terms of bans so I guess that's not surprising. Either way, best of luck to them!

On January 22 2014 09:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
triple kill.

fixed
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 22 2014 01:53 GMT
#43474
On January 22 2014 10:15 BigFan wrote:
Saw TheKefka's post in that wedding thread, figured it was just satire or w/e, not that it wasn't a bit odd but moved on. Who would've known that was the final straw lol. Can't say much for sam since I haven't had to interact with him but he has quite the reputation around ABL in terms of bans so I guess that's not surprising. Either way, best of luck to them!

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 09:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
triple kill.

fixed


I think nunez's was the best. not only did he have an incoherent rant but he put red text in himself.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 22 2014 01:56 GMT
#43475
Holy crap guys. I really liked having samizdat around but he's basically been asking to get banned since he came back off his 90 day. I think he's a really cool guy who raises interesting points, but he tends to do so in a way that is pretty rage-inducing, especially if you aren't already a friend of his. While I think he will be missed, I don't really think the ban was out of line, or a surprise.
dreaming of a sunny day
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 22 2014 01:59 GMT
#43476
I'm just sad I never got to discuss "The Muqaddimah" with him in the What Are You Reading thread.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32054 Posts
January 22 2014 02:00 GMT
#43477
sam was a swell guy. i shall make a terrible post in his honor
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 22 2014 02:17 GMT
#43478
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:




As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

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[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"







Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32054 Posts
January 22 2014 02:24 GMT
#43479
i never said i didn't understand why, i just mentioned that i enjoyed his posts. the infamous chimp post was definitely one of my top 3 favorite posts on this site hahaha
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:34:12
January 22 2014 02:32 GMT
#43480
On January 22 2014 11:17 lichter wrote:
Well since people don't seem to see why sam was banned, I decided to go through his reported posts:
+ Show Spoiler +





As a reply to a genuine Help thread in SC2 Strat:

On November 21 2011 13:03 sam!zdat wrote:
1: Make expansion
2: Defense it

User was warned for this post





In a blog that was entitled "1+1= -3" but had absolutely nothing to do with math:

On April 19 2012 01:55 sam!zdat wrote:
If you doubt that 1+1=2 I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Mathematica-Volume-Set-1-3/dp/052106791X

User was temp banned for this post.





Apparently an insult:

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 02:51 xDaunt wrote:
On August 14 2012 02:43 sam!zdat wrote:
You are still assuming natural resources fall from the sky

there is not an identity between capacity for production and benefit to society

(and you spend all that effort doing something useless, when you could have been enjoying your life or becoming more educated. That would be good for society)


The problem with your argument is that we're not near the point where the natural resources of our planet will seriously constrain our growth to the point where capitalism is the zero-sum game that you're talking about.



How's the sand down there?

User was warned for this post





Still in the President Obama Re Elected thread:

we'll frighten them off with our faggotry

User was temp banned for this post.





US Politics megathread is a cesspool

On March 02 2013 06:31 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:15 LaughingTulkas wrote
You, and the poster above you, are making judgement calls about "what is reasonable" and applying it to both positions as if it is established fact.


fweeeeeeep! Meaningless relativism, ten yard penalty

User was warned for this post





Of course there was this famous quote from Globalization: the elephants in the room thread:

On March 16 2013 02:08 sam!zdat wrote:
everything you say is like a chimpanzee howlong in puerile triumph after discovering its first erection

User was temp banned for this post.





I have no idea what this means

On April 02 2013 06:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 06:18 Danglars wrote:
On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

Yes. I am suggesting some introspection for the posters here. Step back and consider what you accuse every religion on the planet of doing. Now, look at what you're typing now, in this thread. Maybe your superiority over the blind faith masses isn't quite as stark as it would seem.


+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]


User was warned for this post

(edit: spoilered image)





That post came after this one, in Will Science unlock immortality

On April 02 2013 06:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 05:55 Tobberoth wrote:
Still, comparing it to religion might be taking it a bit far.


walks like a religion, talks like a religion, promises immortality like a religion...

grand narratives are grand narratives, my friend, no bones about it

edit: you can't use this "in the past, people would have been surprised at how things have changed, so now things are also going to keep changing."

what's going to REALLY surprise US is when things STOP changing. that would be the analogy here. "in the past, people used to think that they lived in a state of perpetual change. then it turned out that some things never change. surprise!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDUuEWgMcA





Changed the text he quoted to antagonize

On April 12 2013 03:58 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post





This made me laugh when it was originally posted here:

On April 12 2013 04:49 sam!zdat wrote:
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On April 12 2013 04:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2013 04:41 Barrin wrote:
FOLLOW THE MONEY

legislators
campaign contributions by public interest groups
public interest groups funded by big ag corps
big ag corps making money off consumer purchases
consumers.

fuck the consumers!


anyone who thinks of themselves as a "consumer" deserves to be fucked. what an undignified appellation

User was temp banned for this post.





In a thread trying to discuss faith and Christianity in IronManSC's blog

On September 19 2013 11:05 sam!zdat wrote:
jesus is clearly a queer, what else do you think that 'disciple whom jesus loved' stuff is about. The medievals knew it, ever see those paintings of the last supper and stuff with the prettyboy next to him?

User was warned for this post

edit: for the record 'queer' is not an offensive word, that's what the queers call themselves when they want to study queer things. I should know, I live with two of them.





US Politics megathread as usual:

On September 26 2013 11:47 sam!zdat wrote:
too liberal! Clintons just a bunch of running dog liberals like the rest of them! Fuck clintons and their dynastic ambition

User was warned for this post

I don't understand. I think I might be gone again soon guys. Have fun without me.





Back to IronManSC's blog, where he just couldn't stop posting despite...

On October 04 2013 07:48 sam!zdat wrote:
it's true I'm an asshole. But I think his thinking is dangerous and should be fought with mockery. I'll try to stay away from here, but on the other hand, posting this thread in the first place is obvious gadfly bait and I think you shouldn't complain when gadflies arrive.

User was warned for this post





A bunch of other reported posts were non anctioned until

On October 05 2013 17:28 sam!zdat wrote:
you think the spiritual content of christianity is some ridiculous myth about how jesus is the son of god and is going to make you live forever because you believe this absurd thing? that's what you think is the sum total of the value of your tradition? god, that's so disrespectful

the historical context that you ignore is THE ENTIRE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE ANCIENT WORLD

none of this stuff is real. if you are going to make it matter in the modern world, if you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR FAITH, you are going to need to make it matter EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT REAL. otherwise it is useless and you are nothing but a delusional fanatic of a dying cult

User was temp banned for this post.





On October 31 2013 03:20 sam!zdat wrote:
nunc est futandum. Numquam cunctare uictoriam fecit. Aleam iacias, stulte! Nihil tibi quod amittas.

User was warned for this post

edit: lol that's dumb.





According to my research, sam sincerely believed that he was a good posters because a bunch of people were glad to have him back, despite his history of foul mannered posting. lol




Classic sam, adding insults to all of his posts when explaining something and being mostly right should have sufficed

On December 09 2013 07:58 sam!zdat wrote:
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On December 09 2013 07:57 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet


Trade has always happened... and even if there were no trade in those societies, you think we can go back to that? That's a laughable suggestion.


it's not a suggestion. I'm just saying that when you say "there have always been financial crises in every society" you are being stupid in a very obvious way





Bitcoins are a big deal apparently

On December 09 2013 07:54 sam!zdat wrote:
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On December 09 2013 07:50 Shival wrote:
On December 09 2013 06:45 sam!zdat wrote:
financial crises are not prevalent in every social form, don't be thick. i'm not talking about all the sins of the human race here

rather than wasting time with inane cliches about human nature, why don't you put some effort into thinking about our problems and how we might go about solving them


Financial crisis is prevalent in every social form so far tried and likely in every probable social theory so far proposed.


haha ok mr anthropologist

how about before they invented financial instruments? lots of financial crises in those societies I bet

but yeah you're right this conversation will likely not go anywhere. I'm sure whatever you do on a daily basis is very important and helpful for humanity

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On December 09 2013 07:52 Mstring wrote:
A super high quality good depreciates very slowly thus earning the producer a great deal of currency and costs the consumer very little to upkeep.


but then the producers go out of business because everybody already has their thing





This was a nice exchange:

On December 09 2013 05:31 Shival wrote:
That's not inherent to capitalism but rather of society itself. Communism has it fair share of shady dealings in history, not to mention economic collapse.


On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


On December 09 2013 06:05 Shival wrote:
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On December 09 2013 05:46 sam!zdat wrote:
ah yes, the two great options


Any great example that worked so far then? I dare say none have worked, and none will ever work unless you somehow manage to subdue human nature.


On December 09 2013 06:08 sam!zdat wrote:
you're right Mrs. Thatcher





By this point, he had accumulated 23 mod reports:

On January 12 2014 08:40 sam!zdat wrote:
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On January 12 2014 08:30 ziggurat wrote:
On January 12 2014 06:02 sam!zdat wrote:
gmos are only one facet of a deeply problematic regime of industrial agriculture, the problem here is just that the public discourse about it is myopic

is our agricultural production deeply fucked? yes. is it deeply fucked entirely and unequivocally because of gmo? no

edit: also, while I'm thinking about it, I want to address something from a couple of weeks ago. after some idiot banned me, most of the responses to me were based on mocking me for beliefs I do not hold (the main way that people respond to me here). I just want to put forth that I believe 100 percent in private property and that I think one of the main problems with our society today is that there is very little private property. a joint stock corporation is not private property, it is a form of absentee landlordism, which is the antithesis of private property. late capitalism is NOT a system based on private property, there is basically no private property in the capitalist system today. equities are not private property. your mortgaged house is not private property. securities are not private property. anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot and needs to go read their adam smith

I don't think our agricultural production is fucked. I think it's amazing! We have more choice that at any time in history, and at lower prices than ever. There are just a lot of silly privileged people who have problems with it for various touchy-feely reasons which I personally don't care about.

Also, your talk about how there is very little private property these days is transparent nonsense.



it's not touchy feely reasons, it's deeply unsustainable and is operating on borrowed time.

i am not a touchy feely person, remember, I am a stalinist

as far as your last line, let me repeat: you are an idiot and need to go read your adam smith





These are merely the action'd posts that I could find in mod reports. He had a lot of other posts that were action'd before even being reported. It was his way to mingle insults and a foul superiority complex in all his posts. Intelligence does not excuse belligerence.


holy examples batman. in all seriousness though he was a pretty bad poster and should have learned better. i guess people are just surprised to see someone well known get banned
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