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Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#401
I honestly wish I was trolling. I know, I know. Atreides defended me earlier, would've been great to have as a mason buddy. SDM? Would've been great as a mason buddy, he seems to know his shit and I think he's town. Thrawn? That'd be baller too.

You'll notice how the only time I ever acknowledged Cubu about lurking is once when I said "We should go after the scummy lurker instead of the afk lurker" That's because Cubu is my partner. And has not said a single thing to me yet. Hopefully he shows up in this thread to confirm me. More like he will show up in this thread at 7:55 and I'll die because no one will be there to notice.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 19 2012 21:53 GMT
#402
On September 20 2012 06:13 Sharrant wrote:
@Stutters
Every single time I said they could have been Masons was me trying to get them to claim it, or consider it as a claim.

And really, after the town was so hugely against a role claim, you want me to out another player before it's confirmed whether or not I'll be lynched?

Then what, I die to a town lynch, and then my partner dies to mafia or possibly SK over night?


Given that you had one partner and the sample PM specifies that you and another (singular) that I find it hard to believe you wouldn't get verification from your mason buddy or a mod before doing such a stupid plan.

If you both claim and the town switches off of you the mafia can only kill one of you tonight if they should choose to kill either (possible they wouldn't to not have a confirmed townie d2). By claiming on your own you're asking us to believe that you are a mason without substantiating that. If you claimed vig or something I'd give you the benefit of the doubt tonight but if you get shot at night as a mason your mason claim is worthless because we won't know your partners name.

I was against a role claim. You role claimed, which was stupid. Now to try and make it less stupid we need to make sure to get something out of it. I don't see a situation in which not revealing your partner is beneficial atm (I might be overlooking something so please speak up if you have a reason).
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 21:54 GMT
#403
On September 20 2012 06:44 Sharrant wrote:
Welp, I guess I may as well. It'll save him in the long run, if enough of you had believed me about being Mason without confirming him, you probably would have killed him for lurking anyways.

Actually, I've changed my mind about this. If I out him most likely only one of us dies tonight, a confirmed townie will survive, and best of all, it will possibly save a blue's life.

So here's the part where you guys either instantly decide I'm guilty by assosciation, or whether I just am the mason with the shittiest luck ever.

My mason buddy... is (drum roll please)... CUBU

The current post count in our QT is 10, 8 posts by me, 2 by Marvel! Hooray!


Well, that would explain why you didn't have anyone to explain the rules for you. And why you've for some weird reason left Cubu out of the "lynch lurkers" discussion. My take on this right now:

This is either some super sofisticated level or he's being honest. I think one interesting thing to note is how he brought this up rather early. At a point where it seems like he could've gotten away by other means. Him setting up a super advanced level in and of itself seems unlikely. Him setting up a super advanced level way ahead of time just seems even more unlikely.

I still need time to process this.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 21:56:58
September 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#404
Vote count!

kushm4sta (1) - Sharrant, RemedySC
debears (1) - KillingTime, Sharrant, kushm4sta, rethos, rethos
Sharrant (6) - Sonic Death Monkey, thrawn2112, debears, JacobStrangelove, JacobStrangelove, rethos, drazak, Stutters695
Stutters695 (0) - JacobStrangelove, Sharrant, Atreides
Cubu (3) - kushm4sta, Stutters695, KillingTime, Atreides
drazak (1) - Sharrant

Currently Sharrant is set to be lynched with 6 votes! Just over 2 hours until the deadline!
Cubu has yet to vote!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 21:57 GMT
#405
So, I don't know if I should trust this mason claim or not, but what does everyone think about this plan:

So maybe we should lynch cubu, and if cubu flips mason well then at least we have a confirmed town player (sharrant) and we haven't lost a useful poster. If Cubu doesn't flip mason then we atuo lynch sharrant D2.

In the outcome that cubu is mason, then like others have said about him earlier we aren't losing a player who is willing to scumhunt or contribute or say anything at all. And yeah mafia will have a good target for their nightkills (sharrant) but if there's a medic or a jailkeeper, and I think it's likely that there will be at least one of those, then they can save sharrant from nk's at their own discretion.

All that being said I still don't know if I believe the mason claim or not..... like how the hell am I supposed to get any kind of mason-with-sharrant read on cubu's filter? My instincts tell me that he's lying because of my past suspicions of him and the wtf-ness of the last few pages.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#406
@Thrawn
There is no possibility of a medic. There is a possibility of a jail keeper.

I'm somewhat willing to go through with this. I really, really, really, really don't like it. It involves killing the only person I can confirm as town. And it means one of the scummier players also gets to D2 unhindered. But it would confirm me as town if I can live through the night (I'm a bit happier with that part). And it's not like Cubu has really contributed much.
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#407
1. I need to go to bed
2. We don't have a medic as I just checked and it is not one of the possible roles in this game in the FP. Assuming we have a jailkeeper on d1 is not a safe assumption imho.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#408
On September 20 2012 06:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
So, I don't know if I should trust this mason claim or not, but what does everyone think about this plan:

So maybe we should lynch cubu, and if cubu flips mason well then at least we have a confirmed town player (sharrant) and we haven't lost a useful poster. If Cubu doesn't flip mason then we atuo lynch sharrant D2.

In the outcome that cubu is mason, then like others have said about him earlier we aren't losing a player who is willing to scumhunt or contribute or say anything at all. And yeah mafia will have a good target for their nightkills (sharrant) but if there's a medic or a jailkeeper, and I think it's likely that there will be at least one of those, then they can save sharrant from nk's at their own discretion.

All that being said I still don't know if I believe the mason claim or not..... like how the hell am I supposed to get any kind of mason-with-sharrant read on cubu's filter? My instincts tell me that he's lying because of my past suspicions of him and the wtf-ness of the last few pages.


Well, for the reasons I just mentioned I tend to believe him.

This has to be some kind of super advanced elaborate plot. Like I said, he hasn't really mentioned Cubu in terms of lurker lynching. This is also something he would've had to think of ahead of in order to pull this off. A scum wouldn't blatantly leave out the biggest lurker from his suspect lurker list, unless it was for this specific purpose.

The problem with keeping both of them alive is that if we get a mislynch tonight, what will happen tomorrow?
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#409
Fuuuuck, we don't have a decent counter wagon to Sharrant or Cubu. How many posters are even around right now? How many would consider changing their vote?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:11 GMT
#410
@SDM
I see your point, we mislynch tonight, and we're back in the same situation on Day 2 if mafia doesn't kill either Cubu or me. We'll still be unconfirmed unless Cubu wakes up and makes a post, and even then it will still look scummy so we will most likely end up having to kill either me or Cubu to confirm that me and Cubu are both town.

But lynching Cubu is (and only is for me) knowledge that we're killing a town. I don't like that, even though he hasn't contributed anything. It might be the more reasonable answer at this point though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 19 2012 22:11 GMT
#411
EBWOP: Missed your claim when I was typing it. This is interesting. Going to process this really quick.

For now though

##unvote
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#412
##unvote
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#413
SDM, my vote is fluid, and I trust you. My suspicion is still strongest on Drazak for that swing in, vote with no explanation, swing out. But I don't know who we can really go after at this point. I don't even know if we should switch off of Cubu.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 22:16 GMT
#414
On September 20 2012 07:10 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Fuuuuck, we don't have a decent counter wagon to Sharrant or Cubu. How many posters are even around right now? How many would consider changing their vote?


I'd say killing or drazak
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:16 GMT
#415
Everyone take 15 and read and reread everything Killing and Drazak have said and then we figure things out from there?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 19 2012 22:19 GMT
#416
ugh ## Unvote
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
KillingTime
Profile Joined August 2012
France101 Posts
September 19 2012 22:19 GMT
#417
I need to go to bed. I can't process this stuff properly right now. Back to basics = hunting scum - so I am going back to voting my strongest scumread before all this nonsense - which was debears. I think that puts him and cubu on 2 votes each. You guys who are awake get to decide who to lynch I guess.

##unvote
##vote debears

Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
September 19 2012 22:21 GMT
#418
I guess this is a time where I can bring up something I noticed in the was drazak was posting. I didn't think it was worth mentioning before because it seemed way off topic and it's just a small thing I noted.

I've been looking at the meta of players in XXVI and compared it to this game. In XXVI he responded to accusations against based on his lack of posting by being very apologetic. This is not at all how he's been acting in this game wrt the exact same accusations. Now he's benig super defensive. That's a clear difference from his town meta.

Then just a moment ago when he made his suspicious voting post it added to my suspicion. That post was a clear lie. He can't possibly have been reading up on the entire thread and claim not to have the tmie to post any reasoning. He just jumped the most convenient wagon and that's scummy. I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him.

We need more players to chime in though. I don't even know how many are around and able to change their vote.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2012 22:22 GMT
#419
AHHH WTF huge developments and I wish these happened earlier when i was at my computer.

to the people saying keep the vote cuba are you fucking kidding me or what? either they are both mafia or they are both town. You think they are both mafia and sharrant is stupid enough to give up both mafia... sharrant vote and cubu vote just seems totally ridiculous to me.
##unvote
we need an alternate bandwagon and we need it fast. I like debears if people really don't want to lynch a lurker. I like another lurker as the best choice though I'm not sure which one I would pick now. drazak maybe? I want to here what other people think.
we need an epic swift band wagon of justice or we are going to get a no lynch
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Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
September 19 2012 22:25 GMT
#420
My biggest lurker lynch candidate is Drazak, by far.

HE has 6 total posts. 2 of them one liners, one of them a one liner with a vote. He voted me without mentioning anything, just the vote. He also put it inside another sentence to make it less obvious he actually was voting for me.

He has posted 0, and I repeat 0 attempts at scumhunting. Not even a bad attempt, not even an attempt at parroting. Just nothing. Only defensive posts. Killing is up there for me still, but Drazak is my #1.
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