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Sharrant it's seriously time to give in and tell us your plan. Right now the fact that you are hiding information is very scummy. A townie will not hide anything they know/think when they are so close to getting lynched. Unless somehow it will help scum more than it will help town but I can't imagine how that would make sense.
This whole attitude of "I have a plan but I can't tell you" is actually very accusing. If I were to be lynched I would for sure get out all the info I have just to make sure that I did my best and that people are benefiting from my flip.
You are not doing that. This exact thing is what convinces me. Unless I missed something very important (in which case please point it out) in your posts, it is becoming clear to me that are you not trying to help town.
I am awake for another 30 minutes after that I have to go to sleep. Please answer me fast.
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OK so as I see it here are our options atm: Sharrant, cubu, killing.
Killing is not that much of a lurker. He's not lurker enough to even be considered a lurker IMO.
Killing is scummy looking to me, but he looked that way last game too.
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Super busy today, read most the posts, willing to ##VOTE Sherrant I'll try to post more tonighnt
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On September 20 2012 05:39 drazak wrote:
Super busy today, read most the posts, willing to ##VOTE Sherrant I'll try to post more tonighnt
You had time to read most of the posts but not enough time to write even a single word about your vote choice?
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@Thrawn
The Mason set up I'm used to has all masons being able to talk to each other, as opposed to pairs of masons that speak only to their partner.
With that information in mind, rethink about what plans I might have had, and I think you'll see what I was bread crumbing for you and debears to do if you were both mafia.
For now, Thrawn, I'm ready to concede that you're town. There are still things that don't add up in my eyes, and those are the things involving debears.
@debears
Killing came back into my sights a few pages ago. I dropped him again after his post mentioning Atreides that you quoted. You're right though, I thought he would have made more posts since I came back.
@SDM, @debears
I'm going to have to agree with you two at this point. At this point my vote is going to be going to killer, Stutters' recent posts have put him on good footing, and Cubu is still just an unkown quantity.
unvote Stutter695
vote KillingTime
@Rethos you have missed things. Thrawn picked up on it, but he's unsure whether or not he believes me.
Since this is piling up so much, I guess I'll be the one that has to claim today, although it's already pretty obvious.
I'm Mason, I was trying to bread crumb debears and Thrawn into claiming Mason under the assumption that all masons are aware and can talk, rather than just pairs. That's why I brought up the fact that they could be masons several times either directly our roundabout, to give them an easy way out of looking scummy that matches what they had already done. If we had voted debears up and he had claimed mason, we would have immediately had two mafia members. But this was before I knew that Masons were pairs and that there could be multiple pairs.
@Drazak
... You honestly had time to got hrough every single post and then voted me with a single sentence completely lacking any justification AND you did it in such a way that you look like you're only suggesting that you might be voting for me. AND you commited the cardinal sin of putting someone at L-1 without giving them warning.
You just reached my number one spot.
##unvote KillingTime
##vote Drazak
You're scum, and you just had the most obvious bandwagonning in the world.
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So yeah, everyone should be aware at this point.
I AM AT L-1. The next vote will kill me.
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Fuck, EBWOP, I used the wrong format on my first set of votes, I guess I'll just leave out the middle man in this one
##unvote Stutters695
##vote Drazak
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It's scummy to reply on my phone and have a busy day? it takes me forever to write a post. sorry I have a life, some days are like that.
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On September 20 2012 05:27 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
It seems like Cubu only has your vote and Killing has none. I'm not sure switching will make sense based on that and quite frankly, I'm not sure I think switching will make sense anyway. I'll post my final thoughts before voting and I might check back later on my phone if I feel that'll be necessary.
I still think Sharrant is a mistake over a lurker but if people disagree Sharrant would definitely be the best non-lurker lynch due to the focus other people have put on him some people will have a lot to explain once he flips.
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@Drazak
The fact that you don't even acknowledge that voting for someone with not even a word of explanation, and putting them at L-1 without declaring it is scummy, is even more scummy.
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Reread the rules, this is plurality voting not majority. Even if you
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sharrant this setup uses plurality lynch meaning whoever has the most votes get's lynched even if it's not a majority of the votes
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Okay, so lynches only ever occur at the end of the day, there's no auto lynch once you hit 50%+1? Because I didn't actually see the style of voting mentioned in the OP. So I just assumed the person with the majority of votes at the end of the day is lynched, or if someone has a majority of the votes on them they are lynched.
Then I take back the part about L-1, question why no one else said anything about it earlier when I brought up L-1, and apologize to Drazak about it.
But still, Drazak, do you not see why posting a vote with aboslutely no reasoning is scummy?
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@Sharrant that actually makes a lot of sense. For now I declare myself satisfied. Vote goes back to the most suspicious person after you (who now becomes the most suspicious person period), debears.
##Unvote: Sharrant
##Vote: debears
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I'm gonna have to really give the thread a hard read before I can come to a decision on that mason claim. I was actually expecting you to claim cop with some kind of plan involving night checks which I couldn't make much sense of. I'll read the thread and let you know if my vote will change or not.
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I want to make some amazing read on Sharrant going back through his whole filter and checking out the case on him - therby assuaging thrawn & those who seem to think I am a lurking scum  But sorry I just can't make head or tail of his postings today. I don't understand his post from either a mafia or a town perspective - this makes me think he is a bad townie, because if he was mafia he would have had two others telling him how to diffuse this situation.
My own observations about stutters were nearly a disaster last game, perhaps as a result I have been too cautious d1. I will do better tomorrow and try to find a strong target.
The lynch I feel best about is Cubu, for reasons that anyone who played/reads the last game should be clear on, even if he is town again (hard to tell), we are going to go into D2 in a stronger position with him gone & I feel it is even scummier that he is not here this game when he got lynched as town for the same behaviour last game. It seems like debears has not been scummy enough since the inital post for others to have a strong feeling he is scum & am not confident enough in the case against Sharrant to vote for him.
I'll be around for like 15-20 mins now, then I have to go.
##unvote debears
##vote Cubu
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On September 20 2012 06:04 Sharrant wrote:
Okay, so lynches only ever occur at the end of the day, there's no auto lynch once you hit 50%+1? Because I didn't actually see the style of voting mentioned in the OP. So I just assumed the person with the majority of votes at the end of the day is lynched, or if someone has a majority of the votes on them they are lynched.
Then I take back the part about L-1, question why no one else said anything about it earlier when I brought up L-1, and apologize to Drazak about it.
But still, Drazak, do you not see why posting a vote with aboslutely no reasoning is scummy?
In 3 hours whoever has the most votes is getting lynched.
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Sorry, not sure why that submitted when I hadn't pressed enter or used my mouse.
Reread the rules, this is plurality voting not majority. Even if you hold a majority you won't die until the day ends.
Also when you unvote you don't say a name after.
Just would like a clarification for future reference since the rules don't mention it one way or another; Are we allowed to vote no lynch?
Now moving on to this trainwreck:
On September 20 2012 05:47 Sharrant wrote:
@Thrawn
The Mason set up I'm used to has all masons being able to talk to each other, as opposed to pairs of masons that speak only to their partner.
With that information in mind, rethink about what plans I might have had, and I think you'll see what I was bread crumbing for you and debears to do if you were both mafia.
For now, Thrawn, I'm ready to concede that you're town. There are still things that don't add up in my eyes, and those are the things involving debears.
@debears
Killing came back into my sights a few pages ago. I dropped him again after his post mentioning Atreides that you quoted. You're right though, I thought he would have made more posts since I came back.
@SDM, @debears
I'm going to have to agree with you two at this point. At this point my vote is going to be going to killer, Stutters' recent posts have put him on good footing, and Cubu is still just an unkown quantity.
unvote Stutter695
vote KillingTime
@Rethos you have missed things. Thrawn picked up on it, but he's unsure whether or not he believes me.
Since this is piling up so much, I guess I'll be the one that has to claim today, although it's already pretty obvious.
I'm Mason, I was trying to bread crumb debears and Thrawn into claiming Mason under the assumption that all masons are aware and can talk, rather than just pairs. That's why I brought up the fact that they could be masons several times either directly our roundabout, to give them an easy way out of looking scummy that matches what they had already done. If we had voted debears up and he had claimed mason, we would have immediately had two mafia members. But this was before I knew that Masons were pairs and that there could be multiple pairs.
@Drazak
... You honestly had time to got hrough every single post and then voted me with a single sentence completely lacking any justification AND you did it in such a way that you look like you're only suggesting that you might be voting for me. AND you commited the cardinal sin of putting someone at L-1 without giving them warning.
You just reached my number one spot.
##unvote KillingTime
##vote Drazak
You're scum, and you just had the most obvious bandwagonning in the world.
Who is your mason partner and why haven't they backed you up? Where are your breadcrumbs? Quite frankly I don't believe you. If you really are a mason you should say your partners name and they should speak up as well. Should one of you die, that leaves the other as a confirmed town. If you really are a mason you shouldn't have claimed but since you have you need to make the most out of it.
##unvote
##vote Sharrant
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@Stutters
Every single time I said they could have been Masons was me trying to get them to claim it, or consider it as a claim.
And really, after the town was so hugely against a role claim, you want me to out another player before it's confirmed whether or not I'll be lynched?
Then what, I die to a town lynch, and then my partner dies to mafia or possibly SK over night?
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Hey I just entered the thread, after reading I don’t have much time to post though. But this has my head in circles... Out of the cubu killing time thing I still need a little time to get an opinion as I was going for stutters not killing. However something I will note cubu is a risky vote, he is also a semi useless town though. If with a killing filter I find him scum I would vote for him over cubu.
Sharrent whaa? Honestly have a headach right now... (however I will quickly jump to drazak) jumping right into the thread like that is really really odd...
That said sharrent switching votes mid post because of it has me confused. Without momentum at least. I wouldn’t put serial killer past him considering he brought it up. I can kinda understand you if you are mason but...
I can see what you are trying to do (use town cred to get yourself a lynch{I did this last game}) but it’s far too early in the game to even attempt that. Without a bread crumb that is significant I don’t understand how this is supposed to work. For sure if you have a mason partner he can’t claim but if you are mafia you could be using the many mason groups argument to your own advantage.
Switching over to killing case I can see how he fits lurker scum but also I don’t think he is more scum than stutters or drazak.
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