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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 30 2011 11:44 GMT
#4041
That sounds pretty WIFOM nuke
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 12:05 GMT
#4042
Yeah that doesn't mean shit unfortunatelly. Even if BC is scum we need him alive to DL, we have so many people we need to kill right now. I certainly hope ciryandor gets shot tonight so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. Mafia is going to 100% bus him tomorrow so is better if he is already dead.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 30 2011 12:11 GMT
#4043
I know I can't prove it yet, I was more interested in seeing reactions. I'm going to be re-reading the entire mayoral-campaign, (in the thread, so I don't miss anything) I want to see who supported BC without voting themselves.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 12:12 GMT
#4044
K I'm reading through the part I missed and I take back what I said about kenpachi.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 30 2011 12:13 GMT
#4045
I would strongly recommend trying to use more than the fact that someone voted for Palmar when choosing who to shoot. There are quite a few newbies who probably got lost in all the arguing. For someone who is not experienced, it is much easier to cling to the clear "evidence". So Syllogism going after Palmar and fliping town and then Ace going after Palmar and then flipping town can be what tipped some of them to do so... This is something that is easily observeable, while the reasoning in a 5000 words post can be hard to comprehend. Same with those who were too eager to go after Risen. Of course, there is bound to be a lot of mafia who voted for Palmar but try to be wise when choosing who exactly to go for.

Are we relying on BC to protect Sandroba tonight, so that the medics can try to spread out better instead of overheal him?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 12:18 GMT
#4046
I just want to point out this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
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On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer



Is retarded logic. Just because your vote won't kill someone, you don't have to remove it and vote on someone who is likely to die. He is also one of the "stealth votes".

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On November 30 2011 08:58 Mattchew wrote:
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On November 30 2011 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


If you would rather not vote for either....why is your vote on Palmar??

like seriously my head is gonna explode because of the things some of you are saying


because I want my vote to count


so you want to make it count by providing your vote to someone you don't want to lynch.

yeah dude, cause that makes like no sense whatsoever or anything.


BC or PALMAR is going to be lynched... why not vote the one who i believe is scummier? so I can sit back and watch BC flip town and be pissed that we woulda shoulda coulda voted Palmar? No.


This doesnt make sense. He explicitly stated that he didn't want neither BC nor Palmar dead, yet he voted on Palmar "because I want my vote to count". There has been as much info on scum BC as there has been on scum Palmar(possibly a bit more to one side or another).


Also, I want people to keep this one on the back of their mind:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&currentpage=178#3555

coming out of nowhere trying to save zeks. One could argue that a scum wouldn't do that because that's attracting attention, but then one argues that mafia knows that and that's why he did it, and then it's WIFOM. Still, I feel forced to think this is very scummy.

~2 cents
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 12:21 GMT
#4047
Okay I go to bed 2.5 hours before deadline and then suddenly everybody piles votes on me based on what?

According to one of the people screaming for my lynch there wasn't even a case on me. This was based purely on the fact that Palmar, wherebugsgo and sandroba all suddenly decided to yell at me and they never wrote anything even though I repeatedly asked them to. There was a layabout analysis but it was pretty terrible and wherebugsgo also acknowledges this when he totally forgets about it two pages after it happened. Then people jump me because I've gone to bed.

wherebugsgo keeps lying about me, he says that I am lying when I say that I feel that one of my strongest sides compared to the better players is that I can distinguish newbie from scum. Look at Mini Mafia X where I am the only one fighting against the lynch of two newbies. He says that my play has improved drastically in the last two games. This is not true, my second to last game was Steamship where I was town and got lynched day2 because I sucked, and Mini Mafia X where I was townie and mafia won. How would you say that this is drastically improving or are you just lying to make me look bad? You want to lynch me because I am careful with my posts, I am trying to change how I post because I usually get lynched early on because I am not careful with my posts. Look at what I write instead of using shitty meta.

On November 30 2011 14:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
these 7:

Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
Serejai
vaderseven
Ciryandor
ey215

voted in the vote thread at the last minute and should be killed just based on that. That's why they are all first on my vig list.

prplhz
Hier
Benjef
Steveling

These four based on analysis, and voting palmar.

AmericanUmlaut
Soap

these two for voting me, and voting palmar. Also uselessness.

Coagulation
Lemonwalrus

Both for being useless.

Vigilantes, take my list and shoot into it based on your position in the player list. This will ensure that shots do not overlap.

Medics please protect me.



This post: what the fuck. The first 6 names are self evident kills. If vigs/banes aren't hitting these tonight they should stop playing mafia. The rest of the list is full of shit and downright lying when you say that you are basing my lynch off analysis. Can you link me this supposed analysis? No you can't. You have 5% of the posts in this game but your insane activity doesn't make you any more town

Will wherebugsgo ever post an analysis on me or are you just going to listen to him because he has a fuckton of posts? wherebugsgo is my strongest scum read at this time. His activity doesn't mean anything, but he is lying his ass off to get whatever he wants while trying to appear a lot more pro-town than his actions really are. That list up there consists of 6 people who will get shot by any person with a brain and the rest of the list is very questionable. He claims some are backed up by analysis, which is untrue in my case at least, and the rest of them is based on who voted Palmar and who voted for wherebugsgo. This is shitty beyond anything.

wherebugsgo also has sandroba's support but don't trust that for one second. sandroba promised on day1 during his campaign that he would be very active, but we see now that he is lazy and he is even admitting that he isn't really putting a lot of effort into this game. Why the hell would a townie run for office on a platform partially based on his own activity and then not be very active? This only makes sense from a scum point of view, he could get into office and then he could just /afk for the rest of the game while scum could control how many double lynches they wanted town to have. Also, sandroba has shown in Mini Mafia X that he has absolutely no conception about wherebugsgo's alignment.



On November 30 2011 15:07 sinani206 wrote:
Since I'm probably gonna die tonight for that analysis on wbg, I might as well claim. I was a detective and I got guilty on wbg. I claimed vet earlier to keep from dying n1. I doubt that I'm paranoid/insane or that he was framed because of his truly scummy play. So, gg all.


I doubt that this guy is scum but holy fuck he's playing terrible. He is piling WIFOM while in the end no scum would ever hit him no matter his role because he's just so chaotic that town will never benefit from anything he says. I'm going to say that he's probably vet after all, just frantically trying to get scum to shoot him. Stop trying to be pro-town by lying 'cause it's not going to work.

On November 30 2011 19:03 deconduo wrote:
LOL

Dunno how you think I could still be scum after I switched WBG Though as much as it pains me to say it, you are pretty town right now. Also I don't see how BC could be mafia if they went through that much effort to try to get him lynched over zeks. Scum Sheriff >>> Random Goon thats gonna die anyway.

Also take a good look at the people defending Zeks saying 'Don't rely on clues, they won't be obvious'


Can you explain why wherebugsgo is painfully town right now? 'cause I don't see it. Can you tell me why it pains you that he is pretty town right now?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 30 2011 12:23 GMT
#4048
On November 30 2011 21:21 prplhz wrote:
Okay I go to bed 2.5 hours before deadline and then suddenly everybody piles votes on me based on what?

According to one of the people screaming for my lynch there wasn't even a case on me. This was based purely on the fact that Palmar, wherebugsgo and sandroba all suddenly decided to yell at me and they never wrote anything even though I repeatedly asked them to. There was a layabout analysis but it was pretty terrible and wherebugsgo also acknowledges this when he totally forgets about it two pages after it happened. Then people jump me because I've gone to bed.

wherebugsgo keeps lying about me, he says that I am lying when I say that I feel that one of my strongest sides compared to the better players is that I can distinguish newbie from scum. Look at Mini Mafia X where I am the only one fighting against the lynch of two newbies. He says that my play has improved drastically in the last two games. This is not true, my second to last game was Steamship where I was town and got lynched day2 because I sucked, and Mini Mafia X where I was townie and mafia won. How would you say that this is drastically improving or are you just lying to make me look bad? You want to lynch me because I am careful with my posts, I am trying to change how I post because I usually get lynched early on because I am not careful with my posts. Look at what I write instead of using shitty meta.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 14:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
these 7:

Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
Serejai
vaderseven
Ciryandor
ey215

voted in the vote thread at the last minute and should be killed just based on that. That's why they are all first on my vig list.

prplhz
Hier
Benjef
Steveling

These four based on analysis, and voting palmar.

AmericanUmlaut
Soap

these two for voting me, and voting palmar. Also uselessness.

Coagulation
Lemonwalrus

Both for being useless.

Vigilantes, take my list and shoot into it based on your position in the player list. This will ensure that shots do not overlap.

Medics please protect me.



This post: what the fuck. The first 6 names are self evident kills. If vigs/banes aren't hitting these tonight they should stop playing mafia. The rest of the list is full of shit and downright lying when you say that you are basing my lynch off analysis. Can you link me this supposed analysis? No you can't. You have 5% of the posts in this game but your insane activity doesn't make you any more town

Will wherebugsgo ever post an analysis on me or are you just going to listen to him because he has a fuckton of posts? wherebugsgo is my strongest scum read at this time. His activity doesn't mean anything, but he is lying his ass off to get whatever he wants while trying to appear a lot more pro-town than his actions really are. That list up there consists of 6 people who will get shot by any person with a brain and the rest of the list is very questionable. He claims some are backed up by analysis, which is untrue in my case at least, and the rest of them is based on who voted Palmar and who voted for wherebugsgo. This is shitty beyond anything.

wherebugsgo also has sandroba's support but don't trust that for one second. sandroba promised on day1 during his campaign that he would be very active, but we see now that he is lazy and he is even admitting that he isn't really putting a lot of effort into this game. Why the hell would a townie run for office on a platform partially based on his own activity and then not be very active? This only makes sense from a scum point of view, he could get into office and then he could just /afk for the rest of the game while scum could control how many double lynches they wanted town to have. Also, sandroba has shown in Mini Mafia X that he has absolutely no conception about wherebugsgo's alignment.



Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 15:07 sinani206 wrote:
Since I'm probably gonna die tonight for that analysis on wbg, I might as well claim. I was a detective and I got guilty on wbg. I claimed vet earlier to keep from dying n1. I doubt that I'm paranoid/insane or that he was framed because of his truly scummy play. So, gg all.


I doubt that this guy is scum but holy fuck he's playing terrible. He is piling WIFOM while in the end no scum would ever hit him no matter his role because he's just so chaotic that town will never benefit from anything he says. I'm going to say that he's probably vet after all, just frantically trying to get scum to shoot him. Stop trying to be pro-town by lying 'cause it's not going to work.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:03 deconduo wrote:
LOL

Dunno how you think I could still be scum after I switched WBG Though as much as it pains me to say it, you are pretty town right now. Also I don't see how BC could be mafia if they went through that much effort to try to get him lynched over zeks. Scum Sheriff >>> Random Goon thats gonna die anyway.

Also take a good look at the people defending Zeks saying 'Don't rely on clues, they won't be obvious'


Can you explain why wherebugsgo is painfully town right now? 'cause I don't see it. Can you tell me why it pains you that he is pretty town right now?

Because he's play is pro-town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 12:26 GMT
#4049
How is his play pro-town, he is posting a list of people who will 100% be shot tonight for obvious reasons, and then he is trying to cram in a bunch of other people with hardly any reasons for why they should be killed. He is straight up lying about me being on that list based on analysis, because he has never posted any analysis of me other than "u scum", but that doesn't really count now does it?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
November 30 2011 12:32 GMT
#4050
Just to mention, next day i'm up for lynching anyone who changed his vote to palmar last night. I think vigi's should kill them this night if possible. Wheter of not wbg is town, these confirmed ones should be dealt with now.
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 12:32 GMT
#4051
On November 30 2011 21:26 prplhz wrote:
How is his play pro-town, he is posting a list of people who will 100% be shot tonight for obvious reasons, and then he is trying to cram in a bunch of other people with hardly any reasons for why they should be killed. He is straight up lying about me being on that list based on analysis, because he has never posted any analysis of me other than "u scum", but that doesn't really count now does it?


wbg has nailed scum by just going 'u scum' before. I trust him.
*looks at Steamship Liquidia, he was the one to actually find me*
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 12:36 GMT
#4052
On November 30 2011 21:32 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 21:26 prplhz wrote:
How is his play pro-town, he is posting a list of people who will 100% be shot tonight for obvious reasons, and then he is trying to cram in a bunch of other people with hardly any reasons for why they should be killed. He is straight up lying about me being on that list based on analysis, because he has never posted any analysis of me other than "u scum", but that doesn't really count now does it?


wbg has nailed scum by just going 'u scum' before. I trust him.
*looks at Steamship Liquidia, he was the one to actually find me*


This is just plain dumb. You trust him based on stuff he's done in this game, not because he found a scum in another game. Jesus christ, you don't really want to play do you? You just want to play follow-the-leader until you die or everybody else is dead, right?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
November 30 2011 12:41 GMT
#4053
@prplhz:
The fact you want wbg dead is enough for me to find him safe.I really think you're scum.
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 12:46 GMT
#4054
On November 30 2011 21:36 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 21:32 Zephirdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 21:26 prplhz wrote:
How is his play pro-town, he is posting a list of people who will 100% be shot tonight for obvious reasons, and then he is trying to cram in a bunch of other people with hardly any reasons for why they should be killed. He is straight up lying about me being on that list based on analysis, because he has never posted any analysis of me other than "u scum", but that doesn't really count now does it?


wbg has nailed scum by just going 'u scum' before. I trust him.
*looks at Steamship Liquidia, he was the one to actually find me*


This is just plain dumb. You trust him based on stuff he's done in this game, not because he found a scum in another game. Jesus christ, you don't really want to play do you? You just want to play follow-the-leader until you die or everybody else is dead, right?


So you mean that to not 'follow-the-leader' I should follow you?

nah, I trust him more.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 12:51 GMT
#4055
On November 30 2011 21:41 hyshes wrote:
@prplhz:
The fact you want wbg dead is enough for me to find him safe.I really think you're scum.

And can you tell me why I am scummy? I filtered you and all you say is "because I voted Palmar", but a lot of people voted Palmar, are they all scummy? What makes me especially scummy?

Before I voted for Palmar I said that in order for anyone to vote for Palmar two premises had to be fulfilled: Palmar had to be more scummy and BloodyC0bbler had to be more townie. Subsequently, Palmar acted very weird with his martyr poem and his OMGUSing all around, and I reread BloodyC0bbler's filter and I couldn't find anything that made me think that he was scum. I thought that it was important to take a stand in the entire Palmar/BloodyC0bbler thishitng and I voted for Palmar just for these reasons.

Do you think I predicted Palmar's behavior would turn shit and I just put up the premises before he did because I'm an evil genius? wherebugsgo can confirm that I'm not a genius, even though it seems like he'd call me a genius any day just to get people to listen to whatever he is pushing just this moment.

Your play is way more scummy than me, no analysis, no logic, just spouting random nonsense while lurking. Tell me: what the fuck?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 30 2011 12:55 GMT
#4056
Okay I give up, apparently the newbies will randomly trust a guy just because he is the loudest and they saw him some other game. No case needed: he's probably town lets just do whatever he says.

Town still doesn't have this prerogative, yesterday 1 scum was killed and 2 other scum were caught for sure but this game is far from over. I demand an analysis on me before vigilantes waste their shot on me just because wherebugsgo is spouting nonsense and random newbies are trusting him for no reasons stated. Vigilantes can't speak for themselves and they shouldn't just shoot in the dark because some dude has made a list of people who were going to get shot anyway and then put in several other people while lying about why they're on the list.

It is hilarious that town is this bad: wherebugsgo puts me on a list because of an analysis - there is no analysis - wherebugsgo must be right because he was right in another game. What kind of logic is this?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 13:01 GMT
#4057
Oh and btw, prplhz isn't scum either; and shots should not be wasted on him at this point imo.

I did say that wbg caught mafia that way before, sorry if I implied that he was right about prplhz. At this point most of the mafia are sitting back and watching; except for some who I'll make a case on later.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 13:02 GMT
#4058
EBWOP
At this point most of the mafia are sitting back and watching


based on previous experience and current state of the game
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 30 2011 13:04 GMT
#4059
LOL I JUST HAD A REALIZATION. Since most vets are town this game, it explains the weird shit of people sugesting that we elect a non vet candidate. I can't really be bothered, but if people want to find scum look for people that were sugesting we don't elect a veteran mayor for the stupidest reasons.
I know prpl (scum) is one of them.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 30 2011 13:07 GMT
#4060
On November 30 2011 21:55 prplhz wrote:
Okay I give up, apparently the newbies will randomly trust a guy just because he is the loudest and they saw him some other game. No case needed: he's probably town lets just do whatever he says.

Town still doesn't have this prerogative, yesterday 1 scum was killed and 2 other scum were caught for sure but this game is far from over. I demand an analysis on me before vigilantes waste their shot on me just because wherebugsgo is spouting nonsense and random newbies are trusting him for no reasons stated. Vigilantes can't speak for themselves and they shouldn't just shoot in the dark because some dude has made a list of people who were going to get shot anyway and then put in several other people while lying about why they're on the list.

It is hilarious that town is this bad: wherebugsgo puts me on a list because of an analysis - there is no analysis - wherebugsgo must be right because he was right in another game. What kind of logic is this?

And with newbies you mean who exacly?
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