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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 05 2012 00:32 GMT
#381
Kush I think you're understating how much scumhunting Xalos has done. That first post you quoted contains quite a lot of scumhunting actually. You say that he's not following his own advice but I think the fact that he made that post is a point in his favor. He calls out a lot of things that he thought looked strange about sonic and clearly a lot of effort went into the post.

What I'd agree on you with though are your comments on his cubu vote. That's one of the shortest explanations for a vote I've ever seen, and sonic pointed this out earlier:

On September 05 2012 04:02 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:When looking at yesterday's voting pattern, there's really only one thing that pops up:
At one point Cubu placed a vote on Kville to tie it up 2-2. At this point Jacob and Xatalos put down votes on Cubu. If Kville is maffia, it's possible Jacob or Xatalos wanted to push Cubu's wagon to save him. This gives some extra weight behind the case for lynching Kville, as it may give us information on Jacob and Xatalos. If Kville is maffia I highly doubt both Jacob and Xatalos are scum though, so the information we would gain is limited.


I want to avoid making association reads if possible so I don't think the "if kville mafia then xatalos or jacob mafia" is a very strong argument to make until we have absolute confirmation of kville's alignment. However I don't even think kville's alignment needs to be brought into discussion. I think it is extremely likely that at least one mafia voted for cubu. Xatalos's reasoning for voting cubu was extremely weak. That is enough to make his vote look scummy. Other people that had weak cubu votes were killingtime and WeeTee. In the case of Weetee I'm going to reserve judgment until his replacement starts posting. So in summary, to me it looks like xatalos's vote was most disingenuous, with killingtime as a close runner up. Go through the filters of the people who voted for cubu and ctrl+f search for posts about "cubu" made before the lynch and you'll clearly see that killingtime and xatalos were less involved with the case than the other voters.

Gonna wait to see xatalos's response, and in the meantime I'm going to look at killing's filter.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 00:50 GMT
#382
Ahh! Kreb I am glad you went back to xatalos. I was initialy going to ask you why you dropped the issue. But it seems it is back. Just woke up so give me time to get my head straight. (if I live) and I will start posting again.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#383
Oh just a note look at "cuba" as well people were miss spelling it left and right.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 05 2012 01:01 GMT
#384
Day Two

[image loading]


Luanne: Once upon a time, almost two thousands of years ago, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ was born. In a manger. And in that manger lived the cutest little animals. This is their story. (singing)
After Jesus left, King Herod came
Demanding first-born sons.
He cast an evil spell on them,
Freezing everyone.
Just lately I bought a Nativity scene
At a yard sale second-hand.
They came to life and then, amen!
I met the Manger Babies!
There's Obadiah the donkey -- he says "Eee-yaa!"
Hosea the cat -- "Meow meow!"
An octopus too -- "Gurgle gurgle!"
And let's not forget a very British bird,
Sir Reginald Featherbottom the Third.
"Charmed, I'm sure, guv'nor."
They are the Manger Babies, getting in trouble,
Manger Babies, spreading God's message of love,
Manger Babies...
MANGER BABIES!


Luanne: If God doesn't get here soon, we're all gonna die! Maybe it's best that we do die. Who wants to live in a world without God?

God never showed up. He was watching the Super Bowl.

+ Show Spoiler +
thrawn2112 as Luanne the Vanilla Townie has been killed.


You have 48 hours to decide the next lynch.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 05 2012 01:03 GMT
#385
Seriously I was luanne? I hated manger babies episodes with a fiery passion.

GL town
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 01:04 GMT
#386
Well that makes sence, he was almost completely confirmed town.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 05 2012 01:07 GMT
#387
On September 05 2012 10:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
Seriously I was luanne? I hated manger babies episodes with a fiery passion.

GL town


On September 02 2012 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
This message brought to you by the The Arlen Beauty Academy.


*cough cough* [image loading]
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 01:07 GMT
#388
That's dissapointing though, he was going to look through killings filter... gg thrawn, your death shall not be in vain. But we can assume they killed him before he mentioned Killing and Xatalos. Not sure if we can get anything out of this.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 05 2012 01:08 GMT
#389
damn i knew that was going to happen... why didn't you save him medic!
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 05 2012 01:27 GMT
#390
If we have a medic, while he was a good town read I'm not sure if a medic would save him or another strong town read.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 05 2012 01:37 GMT
#391
On September 05 2012 10:27 drazak wrote:
If we have a medic, while he was a good town read I'm not sure if a medic would save him or another strong town read.


Yeah but he was confirmed town AND the town's best poster...obvious medic save IMO.
Maybe we should lynch stutters just to honor his memory lol..
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 05 2012 01:38 GMT
#392
Not to demean his memory, but he could have been good mafia convincing us he was town and trying to lead us into bad lynches.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 05 2012 01:39 GMT
#393
On September 05 2012 10:38 drazak wrote:
Not to demean his memory, but he could have been good mafia convincing us he was town and trying to lead us into bad lynches.

huh? he was a vanilla townie it says so in the mod post
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 05 2012 01:40 GMT
#394
I'm saying from a medic's point of view, I wasn't sure about him myself. Obviously he WAS town, but he had a lot of town power which isn't always a good thing.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 05 2012 01:45 GMT
#395
Oh and we also have no vigi to kill kville..great
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 01:55 GMT
#396
Yeah if I was the medic I would probably have not realised he was the one to save until after the fact. As you say there might not even be a medic.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 05 2012 02:24 GMT
#397
I'm in extreme hurry right now, but some comments on the recent events...

Farewell thrawn2112, you will be missed :/ Can't say I'm too surprised about the night kill, though.

kushm4sta, you're severely underestimating my contributions. At the moment I have a pretty good case against Sonic Death Monkey and WeeTee (imcasey), and although the case against Sonic Death Monkey is a bit outdated, the case against WeeTee (imcasey) is quite good IMO. At least I think it's much stronger than the policy lynching of kville or the suspicions toward Stutters695. I agree that I could have been more active so far, but when I look at my own filter, I've scumhunted and/or pushed the discussion forward in every post. Much more than can be said about most players so far.

Now I have to leave, but I'll be able to post again later today. My vote is going for imcasey, as I previously reasoned. I'll be looking at each player's filters later today, though.

##Vote imcasey

(Btw, my vote for Cubu was in real hurry as well, so I indeed should have reasoned it better, but I just had no time. I'll get back to it later!)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 02:48 GMT
#398
Wait so both killling and Xatalos were going at weetee/imcasey? *cough* doesn't this sound right. Considering according to thrawn (confirmed town now) both had week reasoning for cubu and Xatalos was defending killing in a non committal way at one point(not much but...) Sonic case is so out of date though. Even I stopped harassing him as I ended up at least partially satisfied.

I would look at the Xatalos/Killing filters if I were you. They both seem to be starting a bandwagon. Xatalos starts it and then killing jumps on. I agree policy lynch on kville/stutters might be a problem considering the place it would leave us in.(if they flip town) That said I want to know more about you guys (kville and stutters) go out there say stuff. You are likely to get lynched before these guys so try and help us out. Also you would think he would wait for imcasey to start posting. I could be wrong so anyone feel free to point out any illogic here.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 05 2012 02:50 GMT
#399
Also if We lynch weetee/imcasey and he flips green we would probably turn to stutters or kville. If one of those is mafia (bussed or get the town{if one of them is town}) then it's almost a surely a mafia win.
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
September 05 2012 02:55 GMT
#400
On September 04 2012 03:01 kushm4sta wrote:
Why town should all vote for cuba

Worst case scenario:he flips green
No big deal, we lynched the worst townie (barring WeeTee whose behavior fits his meta like a glove, and kville who is being replaced). From his posts it's clear he has no intention of contributing more than he is already, which is nothing. Plus that would give thrawn some serious town points in my book, since he refuses to vote for him. Thrawn is good for town atmosphere and very active. It would be quite useful to our scumhunt if we could trust thrawn.

Best case scenario: he is mafia
If Cuba is mafia, I think there is a very high chance that thrawn is also mafia. In which case we will know 2 mafia first day and basically win the game.
People who are specifically against lynching cuba: cuba, thrawn.
People who have voted for or accused drazak: cuba, thrawn.
Twice now thrawn has attempted to redirect the lynch vote away from cuba onto somebody else.
Thrawn says he won't vote for cuba because unlike stutters, cuba has participated in the scumhunt. By scumhunt you mean his failed attempt to bandwagon drazak with you?

We need three more votes on cuba.


I'm bringing this post, and Kushm4sta into suspiscion. It seemed like you didn't actually think Cubu was mafia. Your reasoning (and lack there of) makes it clear that you weren't voting because you thought Cubu was mafia, but because you thought there was a slim chance of it and that then Thrawn would be a townie. T I think you might be mafia trying to lead town into bad lynches.

Why would you vote people who you don't think are mafia if you're town? I think you're mafia, Kush.

##Vote Kushm4sta
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