Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVIII - Page 19

On March 08 2013 02:52 Rainbows wrote:
What I'm saying is -- his vote on Arctic makes no sense, because he'd rather vote a lurker over a suspicious player.

Voting a lurker does nothing really. Voting someone suspect makes them talk.

On March 08 2013 03:14 TheRavensName wrote:
Guess its time for the joke vote to go.
##unvote

Now I guess its just a decision between M or NW at the moment... I find myself leaning a little towards NW given that hes actually posted suspicious stuff, where as our lurking friend still needs to give some stuff... Outside of those two, I dunno, Rainbow makes me uncomfortable even if he might be townie, I could actually see bussing mafia or SK also. OE seems pretty tow to me, and the rest need to contribute more before I can feel comfortable making a prediction.

On March 08 2013 02:06 OmniEulogy wrote:
Alright.. not much to work with and if anybody has any counter-questions for me please ask. Even if you think it's a dumb question, it's best to get them out of the way. I'd like to try and get some discussion going so..

@MLuneth Could you expand on why you chose Arctic to vote on when there were others (bduddy, ChewOnStu) without any content as well. Other than it just being a coin flip.

@Krafla[spoiler]karla[/spoiler] Although you believe we may be giving some lurkers too easy of a time how do you feel about Luneth's vote on Arctic vs the other lurkers? Do you think it was too early to cast a serious vote on someone who has not been present or was it a justified action in your eyes?

@ChewOnStu Welcome to the game On the subject of lurkers, how do you feel we should deal with them if not for voting on them/lynching them when they become a problem? Every vote is meant to lynch so without that pressure how do we force bad town/scum to participate? I do agree that it is too early to assume anybody is lurking and not just busy but it is important to be able to react quickly, especially on D1.

@WoS you mentioned strategies town should implement, or rather asked about them. I was hoping you could expand on your own thoughts on the matter. Do you have anything to say about my opening post or anything to add to it?

@Matriarch How do you feel about the Lynch All Liars policy. Should town attempt to coax out scum by lying and possibly confusing the rest of us / hurting town in the process?

@Raven same question as above, how do you feel about Lynching all Liars. As Scum has to lie to survive do you think this would add pressure and eventually lead to a correct lynch if we caught somebody?

@Rainbows You mention Luneth being scummy, what do you think about his vote on Arctic? As Arctic has yet to show up, do you think it is more town oriented (trying to get a lurker to post) or scummy (attacking the easiest player early on in hopes that Arctic doesn't defend himself).

@Frorgon You mention suspicious behavior being one of the key things you will be looking for, is there anything you could note so far that you would consider suspicious?

@NobodyWonder You say you don't want to lynch anybody D1 if it is unjustified, could you expand and does that mean if we have no concrete proof of scum you will vote to no-lynch or would you get rid of the scummiest lurker?

@Arctic Can give us your thoughts on what has happened so far and answer most of the questions I have asked to the others.

@Taco Could you give your thoughts on Luneth voting for Arctic, which alignment do you believe it favors?

If I missed anybody sorry =/

On March 08 2013 03:15 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why do you have to make a decision now? Why are you talking about bussing? Why are you making a useless list post?

On March 08 2013 04:14 TheRavensName wrote:

Cause I dunno what I am doing and its what all the cool kids are doing? And I talk about bussing cause I mea the only mafia I've really played is the SC2 one, its realy really common to bus on it. So I just kinda assumed its the same way here. I'm just dumb I guess?

On March 08 2013 03:15 WaveofShadow wrote:

Why do you have to make a decision now? Why are you talking about bussing? Why are you making a useless list post?

On March 08 2013 04:37 OmniEulogy wrote:


As there has been no case against you and I see no reason to suspect you of being scummy at this point in time I'm going to step in and defend you / chastise you a little bit.

First thing

To be fair Raven didn't say we had to make a decision now, he said the decision at the moment is between Luneth and NW which was correct. WoS if you truely like what Rainbow has been saying without giving any specifics I assume you also meant you wanted to focus on one thing at a time.

However Raven there are a few things I have a problem with in this post. One is the mention of an SK, keep that thought out of mind until the end of N1, it is not a certain thing that there is an SK, in all 3 of my previous newbie games there hasn't been one so it's best to leave that alone until there is proof of a 3rd party.

The second thing is the mention of bussing so early into D1 while some people have still barely said anything. I don't believe it makes sense for mafia to try and bus each other this early. We can start to look at it closer to the deadline / after the flip and try to come to any conclusions then.

I also personally just dislike it when people try to play the victim card. You have voiced some decent opinions about how we should go about the game and if you follow it up with some good scum hunting and cases it'll ease my suspicion of you greatly.

This is more like some friendly advice to you if you are town to help prove it and keep yourself away from the lynch mob. And just be aware that when people pressure you, you should think about a better defense than "I guess I'm just dumb" If it keeps up, it'll look pretty scummy without any real explanations.

On March 08 2013 04:37 OmniEulogy wrote:


As there has been no case against you and I see no reason to suspect you of being scummy at this point in time I'm going to step in and defend you / chastise you a little bit.

First thing

To be fair Raven didn't say we had to make a decision now, he said the decision at the moment is between Luneth and NW which was correct. WoS if you truely like what Rainbow has been saying without giving any specifics I assume you also meant you wanted to focus on one thing at a time.

However Raven there are a few things I have a problem with in this post. One is the mention of an SK, keep that thought out of mind until the end of N1, it is not a certain thing that there is an SK, in all 3 of my previous newbie games there hasn't been one so it's best to leave that alone until there is proof of a 3rd party.

The second thing is the mention of bussing so early into D1 while some people have still barely said anything. I don't believe it makes sense for mafia to try and bus each other this early. We can start to look at it closer to the deadline / after the flip and try to come to any conclusions then.

I also personally just dislike it when people try to play the victim card. You have voiced some decent opinions about how we should go about the game and if you follow it up with some good scum hunting and cases it'll ease my suspicion of you greatly.

This is more like some friendly advice to you if you are town to help prove it and keep yourself away from the lynch mob. And just be aware that when people pressure you, you should think about a better defense than "I guess I'm just dumb" If it keeps up, it'll look pretty scummy without any real explanations.

On March 08 2013 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:

Good advice in general, OE. I was thinking of getting to it myself but I figured lack of town activity right now means someone else should post.
Go easy on him for the victim card imo (you sort of did ); I know I had a lot of issues with that my first game when I was up against players who definitely were more experienced in that regard. But yeah Raven, OE's advice is sound and should all be stuff you consider when posting in the future. If you're town, the game is all about scumhunting as your primary goal. If you do that well you have no reason to be suspected.

Just to mention Rainbows, I liked his shutting down of the bad game theory stuff early.

OE since I'm responding to you already, I'm going to come at you a little.
Have you been taking coaching from mocsta or something? Your filter is absolutely massive already and, while your early reads/comments are accurate, we REALLY don't need to hear your thought process on absolutely everything. Nor questions to absolutely everyone, it shits up the thread. If you want to focus someone or a few people, go ahead but when you spread yourself to thin and expect different things from everyone it becomes very difficult to follow a line of reasoning---something you don't want as a self-proclaimed transparent townie.

On March 07 2013 17:08 Krafla wrote:
Nope, I'm not going to vote yet, I want to make an educated decision of who to vote for instead of flinging dirt and seeing what sticks

On March 07 2013 17:29 Krafla wrote:
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OK I'll make a stand. I think lynching people that aren't participating in the thread is probably the best way to go at the moment, however I think we should probably give people a bit of time to come say hi. I've only just got to work and was asleep when Day 1 started so for the first 7 or so hours I was a lurker!
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On March 07 2013 23:34 Krafla wrote:
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My gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing
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On March 08 2013 03:42 Krafla wrote:
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At the moment it feels to me like MLuneth jumped on the fact that I plucked Arctic's name out of a hat a little too easily
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