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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:45 TheRavensName wrote: Wouldn't lynching chaos be more of the main thing then lurkers? So you are fine with letting mafia lurk without any scrutiny? Pretty convenient. | ||
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
SO Pressuring lurkers to contribute => they contribute. the goal is get contribution (not to lynch, unless necessarily) | ||
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
anyways sleepy | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
Glad to see things picking up a bit now. As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it. Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute. | ||
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Krafla
United Kingdom104 Posts
Have you seen anything so far that you think might be worthy of a lynch? | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
 I missed out on the only period of time where I could have messed around that being said I like the activity from some of you. ^_^ Weak read on Krafla already but so little has happened that it can change quickly.Why even bother mentioning it then? I'm going to try playing this game out as honest as possible and try to let you guys know my thought process as often as possible. As the game progresses and hopefully as my actions will prove me to be town to the rest of you, you will be able to trust that what I say does indeed come from the mouth of a townie. I don't expect anybody to believe me at this stage in the game but as I said hopefully as we progress my actions will make it more and more clear to you all. @Krafla our of curiosity (and as I believe you are actually here) how do you feel about having a no-lynch if we run into a dead-end at the end of D1? | ||
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Matriarch
United States21 Posts
Meatless, if I HAD to pick someone to lynch right now I am afraid I would have to choose you. I don't understand why your knee jerk reaction to my earlier question was very pro-town. Yes, this is a game of mafia but we ARE supposed to be helping our neighbors. This is a newbie game and we are still learning AND how are we supposed to find scum without help from each other? Also, you seem to be pushing really hard for these early uneducated votes. The game has just begun, we have a lot of time left in the day to examine cases and actions. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18049 Posts
Krafla (2): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName MLuneth (1): Rainbows nobodywonder (1): MeatlessTaco bduddy (1): nobodywonder Arctic Daishi (1): MLuneth Krafla is currently set to be lynched. ~34.5 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
On March 07 2013 23:12 Matriarch wrote: we ARE supposed to be helping our neighbors. This is a newbie game and we are still learning AND how are we supposed to find scum without help from each other? I agree, Although I don't think it would be wise to take everything at face value right away from anybody, it is pretty simple to get some type of idea in your head of who is honestly trying to push a town agenda and hunt scum vs lurkers and people who don't contribute in a meaningful way. Then choose to believe / work together with the people who are highest on your town side. WoS does have a point though, this early it is very important to be skeptical of everybody so that scum doesn't infiltrate town and possibly even take over it. | ||
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Krafla
United Kingdom104 Posts
On March 07 2013 23:09 OmniEulogy wrote: damn you guys got active after I went to sleep I missed out on the only period of time where I could have messed around that being said I like the activity from some of you. ^_^ Weak read on Krafla already but so little has happened that it can change quickly.Why even bother mentioning it then? I'm going to try playing this game out as honest as possible and try to let you guys know my thought process as often as possible. As the game progresses and hopefully as my actions will prove me to be town to the rest of you, you will be able to trust that what I say does indeed come from the mouth of a townie. I don't expect anybody to believe me at this stage in the game but as I said hopefully as we progress my actions will make it more and more clear to you all. @Krafla our of curiosity (and as I believe you are actually here) how do you feel about having a no-lynch if we run into a dead-end at the end of D1? My gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing because we wouldn't learn anything from it, although, this is my first game so I don't have any experience to back up that feeling with! Is a no-lynch generally considered better than a miss-lynch on the first day? I still don't like the fact that we've got a few people that we haven't heard from and we're 14 hours or so into the game, I can't help but feel that we're giving them an easy ride if they are scum lurking. I'm still happy to give them the benefit of the doubt but this time tomorrow if we still haven't heard anything from anyone, then I think we seriously need to start asking why! | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
On March 07 2013 23:31 Frorgon wrote: I want to see if anyone lurks really bad because that could affect my decision. Kinda interesting as in all of my newbie games so far, the biggest lurkers have at least 1 or 2 scum in them. I think it's a solid place to start looking but also very difficult if too many people do it. Which is why my 1st post basically begged people to contribute if they are town. Not doing so will most likely lead to a townie getting lynched at one point | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
On March 07 2013 23:34 Krafla wrote: My gut says a no-lynch would be a bad thing because we wouldn't learn anything from it, although, this is my first game so I don't have any experience to back up that feeling with! Is a no-lynch generally considered better than a miss-lynch on the first day? I still don't like the fact that we've got a few people that we haven't heard from and we're 14 hours or so into the game, I can't help but feel that we're giving them an easy ride if they are scum lurking. I'm still happy to give them the benefit of the doubt but this time tomorrow if we still haven't heard anything from anyone, then I think we seriously need to start asking why! Generally no, I believe a no-lynch is a terrible idea D1. It basically gives scum a free night kill and town gain no information. As far as Artic goes it is possible he's still sleeping / at school as the game started a little bit later than I had expected and it is still early in the morning where he is. I'll give him till this afternoon until I start to worry about him. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
Even if we miss-lynch D1, the information we should be able to gain from it if we don't horribly botch it should make up for losing a townie. As I understand it, it's very rare in newbie games to lynch scum D1. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
On March 07 2013 23:31 OmniEulogy wrote: I agree, Although I don't think it would be wise to take everything at face value right away from anybody, it is pretty simple to get some type of idea in your head of who is honestly trying to push a town agenda and hunt scum vs lurkers and people who don't contribute in a meaningful way. Then choose to believe / work together with the people who are highest on your town side. WoS does have a point though, this early it is very important to be skeptical of everybody so that scum doesn't infiltrate town and possibly even take over it. EBWOP: Said WoS, meant Taco. my bad  | ||
ChewOnStu
United Kingdom7 Posts
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:31 nobodywonder wrote: nope. we need to create an atmosphere of clarity, and transparency and one main thing is no lurkers. thats why i voted bduddy, just want him to respond. we need a fundamental level of contribution. we cant have an afk town and win. we cant let lurkers lurk. thats a very dangerous situation - can lead to mislynchs and town HAS to pressure to contributing. On March 07 2013 17:56 nobodywonder wrote: I'd rather like to avoid lynching on Day 1 if theyre unjustified. I want the threat to pressure lurkers to contribute and this would lead to the best case scenario. But if lurkers dont contribute, I have no issues with lynching, SO Pressuring lurkers to contribute => they contribute. the goal is get contribution (not to lynch, unless necessarily) Wtf? So your vote is pressuring a lurker to do things... but you don't want to lynch them? Why would you openly say this??? That defeats the entire purpose of the PRESSURE move. Scum want no-lynches btw. You also seem very unwilling to take a stance. "I don't want to lynch anyone without justification" "I want to no lynch" "I'll be content with lurker lynching" WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT! You are stupidly wish-washy right now. | ||
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ChewOnStu
United Kingdom7 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:29 Krafla wrote: I think lynching people that aren't participating in the thread is probably the best way to go at the moment Lynch All Lurkers can be a pretty scummy tactic as it gives scum an excuse to kill off town. PRESSURING lurkers on the otherhand... However I believe its still a little early to consider someone lurking at the moment. Also going to withhold my vote until i have more to go on. | ||
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