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slOosh
3291 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On April 22 2012 05:59 gonzaw wrote: + Show Spoiler + About the plan: On April 22 2012 01:28 Mementoss wrote: Despite myself making a plan for vigs im starting to think its going to be impossible to get everyone to agree to one plan, and none of the plans work unless all vigs on on board. Vigs just keep your actions beneficial to the town and think about the consequences. I still really think vigs should play like vets and try to soak up night kills, confirming themselves not real GFs. Sadly I have to agree with this. (I was going to comment about layabout's points and other people, but it will only clogg up the thread, so I'll leave it be). If some people agree with my plan, while others don't, then it's possible the real vigs are the ones opposed to my plan, meaning even if a majority agrees with it (which is not the case) it won't do any good. You know, I'm pretty sure if we ever lynch a GF he WILL claim vigilante beforehand, and will make sure to do it at the last minute (so we can't switch the lynch to someone else, or if we do scum control who gets lynched). Let's see if we can agree on something at least:
At least this will buffer the chaos a GF lynch flip would make by making us redirect our focus somewhere else before that happens. To VE: On April 22 2012 00:46 VisceraEyes wrote: gonzaw's response to my vote was terribad. Everyone should be voting for him or explaining why he's town plz. For anyone who's all like "Hey I don't think scum would stick their neck out with some plan", I say only "OH REALLY FOOL? You don't think scum would be willing to trade a modicum of suspicion on them for the identities of all of our vigs?" He's pushing a scum agenda in trying to fish for claims, and I for one will NOT ALLOW IT! You keep ignoring my case, and you don't really state why my plan has a scum agenda behind it. Remember the vigs hurt town this game, outing them before they hurt town is the opposite of a "scum agenda" (PRE EDIT: Now that Mementos (I think) pointed it out, I realise that if X vigs claim, scum will know how many trackers/JKs are around, and if scum fake-claim vig then we won't know how many other blues are around yet scum will. I didn't really think of this, and even though it's not that big of a deal in comparison to the other benefits from my plan, it's a significant con) I'm scumhunting as well, I'm not ROL on Purgatory Mafia that just discussed his "bad" plan and never did shit. I'm trying to contribute to the game too. Are you saying I'm scum and I'm faking to scumhunt as well? And again, you IGNORE everything else going on in the thread. You ignore the Paqman dilemma. You ignore the Mattchew one. You ignore the marvellosity one as well You know, kind of how you acted in LI, not caring about the game. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you are acting quite aggressively, not like your meta from that game, but if you want to convince me you are town you have to care about the game. To Mattchew: You ignored all that was happening in the thread to make a half-assed FoS on Paqman It reminded me of how Toad played on LI (not caring shit about what happened in the thread and FoSing someone completely different to disrupt town). So yeah, I found that suspicious, even more so than Paqman at that point (I think he's most likely town at this point). + Show Spoiler + I have to agree with you on something though: About Daniel: On April 22 2012 04:02 St.Daniel wrote: It's so fucking hard to keep up with everything when you are at a camp with a crappy internet connection XD I've read everything and I can't conclude anything with a confident, but I do have some ideas based on my observation so far. I'll post again as soon as I put some of pieces together. And there is no need to be hostile at each this early in game, because thst's EXACTLY what they (scum) want. As long as we keep expressing ideas without trying to bite each other's head off. Remember, keep it simple and clear. <3 TL. I don't really like this post either. Too "neutral" and kind of apologetic, without contributing at all. For instance the bolded part is all fluff and irrelevant (specially since nobody was that "hostile" to each other). I'll wait till you "post again soon and put some pieces together"; hopefully it's very soon To Risen On April 22 2012 03:04 Risen wrote: I think you're making up bullshit to try and push an easy wagon on me. ##vote layabout I'm done for now. I'll change my vote if someone does something scummy but I don't see anything and I think someone trying to push a wagon at this point is our best bet. I'll vote for the hydra too. Okay, so you don't find "anyone" scummy by now? So, tell me this then: What do you find not scummy about VE? What do you find not scummy about Paqman? What do you find not scummy about Mattchew? What do you find not scummy about marv? If you don't think someone is scummy, while other people in the thread do, then you ought to post your reasoning and thoughts about said player and why you don't think he's scummy, because that player is a major point of discussion in the thread and it's your duty as town (if you are) to contribute to the thread regarding the major points of discussion. Again, not caring about the game, or just saying "Meh, I don't think all the people being discussed are scummy, here I'll vote a completely irrelevant dude and FoS him and put all my attention to him" is exactly what Toad did in LI, and I find that sort of behaviour very suspicious. Also, what do you mean by the bolded bit? And why would you vote the hydra? You think he's scum? Why? @Jitsu: Hey Jitsu-part-of-the-hydra, would you mind posting your thoughts on the game so far? @sloosh: You are also making a whole lotta effort in ignoring everything that's happening in the thread. Care to contribute something else? About Ottoxlul: I didn't find his posting suspicious, at least when this thread was at the "plans" stage. I'd want him to take stances on these past few issues. About Paqman, marv, Matt, Risen, etc. About marv: I don't like his somewhat lack of effort in the beginning of this day, yet I don't find him that suspicious as some people have said. He's got quite a few votes very fast too, which always makes me nervous about the legitimacy of wagons. However, I don't really see him as town, and I could see him being scum, so he wouldn't be a bad lynch candidate. As I said before in the thread I don't like to discuss or direct blues. Why would i partake in a conversation that I don't care at all about? Instead I am actively trying to find scum, not yelling at everyone that disagrees with me and calling them scummy like you, VE, Risen, and Paqman. I care what is happening in the thread, just not for the actual vig conversation. I am a suspicious of VE because he seems to be convinced by very little that you are scum. I am still suspicious of Paqman because he has seemed to tunnel me because he was pressured. I am suspicous of St Daniel because that first post was fucking terrible. I'm less suspicous of marv but I do like the players pushing him (laya and blazing) as they seem townie to me. I am now going out to dinner a movie with the girlfriend... I might be back on in like 6 - 7 hours if she falls asleep before me. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On April 22 2012 03:04 Risen wrote: I think you're making up bullshit to try and push an easy wagon on me. ##vote layabout I'm done for now. I'll change my vote if someone does something scummy but I don't see anything and I think someone trying to push a wagon at this point is our best bet. I'll vote for the hydra too. Votes layabout for posting.... "Anyone feel like Risen is hustlin' us?". THE MOMENT he senses danger he votes. Seems pretty scummy to me. On April 22 2012 04:02 St.Daniel wrote: It's so fucking hard to keep up with everything when you are at a camp with a crappy internet connection XD I've read everything and I can't conclude anything with a confident, but I do have some ideas based on my observation so far. I'll post again as soon as I put some of pieces together. And there is no need to be hostile at each this early in game, because thst's EXACTLY what they (scum) want. As long as we keep expressing ideas without trying to bite each other's head off. Remember, keep it simple and clear. <3 TL. Honestly this post is so fucking scummy it's ridiculous. What it boils down to is "I don't have any opinions, I haven't posted because of x excuse, people should post how I want them to, I know what scum wants". Fucking ridiculous. On April 21 2012 23:00 PaqMan wrote: BJ wtf did I just read. The only posts that made any sense was the one about the mass roleclaims and the fos on marvellosity, which I agree on. I think he'd be a good candidate for a vigi shot. I'm voting for mattchew. Dude's scummy as hell. Also, That's his only post since the game has started. He'd be a good vigi shot as well. ##Vote: Mattchew Brings up why BM is scum then votes mattchew. weird but not necessarily scummy. Overall I think that the marv case was initially good but marv has shaped it up and I don't think is that scummy anymore. I think [UoN] Sentinel is the scummiest and I will post a case on him in a bit. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On April 22 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote: I don't think Gonzaw's plan is scummy, however I don't agree with scum being forced into acting the way he thinks they will. Then what do you agree on? You're doing exactly what you accused me of, the "middle of the road opinion". On April 22 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote: Also, I never commented on the vig plans cause I don't care about blues, That's why you completely refused stating an opinion on the current event or even mentioning it? That's a poor excuse to avoid choosing a side. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Just wondering, what's the chance gonzaw's not mafia but just making an extremely retarded point? At any rate, what I don't get is number 6. If I was GF pretending to be vig, I'd shoot as many of the other vigs as I could. And if I was JK, I'd protect those vigs who I trust to be either town vigs or some other blues. He doesnt know that GFs cant shoot.. Nuf said, very bad post, calling out gonzaw but not making a case against his plan + Show Spoiler + I'm starting to think all of you people purposely post when I sleep Let's do it like this - everyone just do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. If it's not beneficial in some way to town, then lynch them. If there's one thing I know, it's that voting/lynching/etc. plans always benefit mafia because they can pull them to their advantage (and also you get lynched when your plan especially sucks). Keeping in mind with this train of thought, I will proceed to do whatever the fuck I want as long as it's beneficial in some way to town. When I get back, I'll read filters and try and put more on the table. I would wait till he put more on the table before we jump to conclusions, I disagree with that plans always benefiting mafia. He's talkin more in general terms, so maybe if he states his case more clearly we'll get more information. Sentinel, if you would be so kind to tell us your opinion about who's benefiting the town right now and who's not, i would like to read what do you think who should we lynch. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On April 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote: As I said before in the thread I don't like to discuss or direct blues. Why would i partake in a conversation that I don't care at all about? Instead I am actively trying to find scum, not yelling at everyone that disagrees with me and calling them scummy like you, VE, Risen, and Paqman. I care what is happening in the thread, just not for the actual vig conversation. I am a suspicious of VE because he seems to be convinced by very little that you are scum. I am still suspicious of Paqman because he has seemed to tunnel me because he was pressured. I am suspicous of St Daniel because that first post was fucking terrible. I'm less suspicous of marv but I do like the players pushing him (laya and blazing) as they seem townie to me. I am now going out to dinner a movie with the girlfriend... I might be back on in like 6 - 7 hours if she falls asleep before me. If you cared why didn't you comment on it at least? Why didn't you say "I don't care about these plans, they are useless let's hunt for other scum" then? If you are suspicious of VE why didn't you state so before? If you cared about what was happening in the thread...why did you ignore it completely? To BJ On April 22 2012 07:13 BlazingJitsu wrote: The entire discussion about mass role claims, and your stupid mass roleclaim in particular, is retarded. Everything that percipitated from it is retarded. My notes for mattchew currently are: "suggests a policy lynch of BM. Pushes paqman semi-shittily" My current notes for Paqman are: "worthless" Clearly you didn't read my filter, because I haven't ignored VE. Go read it. My current notes for VE is: "worthless townie", building off of stuff I've already said briefly about VE. See everyone seems to think VE is somehow useful as a town player, when in actuality he's utterly totally and inexhaustibly bad (see SOAF mafia In any case, Marv was hiding in plain sight so i called him out. Also I didn't FoS anyone. I fucking voted that motherfucker with the intention of burying him. And... seriously dude. just read my filter before you quesiton me about it. Your pressuring skills are pretty bad. Well I'll give it to you, I did not notice that part where you talk to VE. Anyways, your case is not that bad since you (apparently) do that as town too (like when you were "traitor" in LI and FoSed ST/4Face out of nowhere). So, apart from those "notes" what specifically do you think of Matt and Paqman? In those "notes" of yours you don't mention anything about what you think their alignment are. On April 22 2012 07:14 BlazingJitsu wrote: As to why I haven't talked about literally EVERYONE in this game, it's because I'm not some shitty dick player who writes massive illegible posts that need over 9000 [horizontal rule] tags just to seperate his stuff. I push my strongest scumread and don't clutter up the thread with bad clutter. I've pushed what I need to push. If you don't like the fact that I'm not pressuring all 18 people in this game, then you can go take a hike. I don't need your "help" to hunt the scum in this game. In fact, given your skill level, I'm probably better off if you actively work against me. Please do so. -Blazinghand Oh that's cute. I don't really want to start a flame war with you, but if I were you I'd think twice before saying your "method" is better than mine. + Show Spoiler + Also apparently that contradicts what you said earlier: Also, your new post formatting is quite legible! Much improved from our previous games. And I've already said it before, but I'll repeat it: The point isn't about "pressuring" everybody and being all over the place. The point is that if there's a major point of discussion in the thread, it's your duty as townie to post your thoughts about it. Why? Because it proves to people that you care about the game. It proves that you are willing to post thoughts of your own without being pressured. It proves that you are transparent with your reads and willing to contribute. It doesn't matter if you just post 2-3 sentences about the issue, you don't need to write an essay about it. But you need to post your thoughts either way, no matter if they are few. If you fail to do this, then people will think you don't care about the game, they will think you are not transparent with your thoughts, they will think that maybe you have a hidden (scum) agenda. It will make people NOT think you are town, and that's bad, very bad. So people, if you are town try to post your thoughts on current events often so we can figure out you are town. @sloosh: Good post. I want people to post their thoughts about it and about my case against him as well. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
However, if all that can be said for your monstrosities of posts is that they are "legible", well, you're not in a good place. -Blazinghand. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
However, if all that can be said for your monstrosities of posts is that they are "legible", well, you're not in a good place. -Blazinghand. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On April 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote: As I said before in the thread I don't like to discuss or direct blues. Why would i partake in a conversation that I don't care at all about? Instead I am actively trying to find scum, not yelling at everyone that disagrees with me and calling them scummy like you, VE, Risen, and Paqman. You're not helping Town at all by refusing to discuss the main topic and staying silent. If you made more comments on the discussion then I'd have more posts from you to analyze. Instead the only thing I have to look at is the FoS you made which paints you as scum. D1 discussions are good and important, especially if they are about how our blue roles should play. Why you would completely abstain from such discussion makes you iffy. + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote: I care what is happening in the thread, just not for the actual vig conversation. I am a suspicious of VE because he seems to be convinced by very little that you are scum. I am still suspicious of Paqman because he has seemed to tunnel me because he was pressured. I am suspicous of St Daniel because that first post was fucking terrible. I'm less suspicous of marv but I do like the players pushing him (laya and blazing) as they seem townie to me. I am now going out to dinner a movie with the girlfriend... I might be back on in like 6 - 7 hours if she falls asleep before me. I'm not tunneling you because I was "pressured". I'm doing it because of the way you've been acting since the game has started. Scummy. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
1) ST and 4F both deserved to die in that game and you know it 2) I'm writing up an augmented case on Marv in light of his most recent posts. 3) Your questions are inane, much like yourself, and so I feel no need to respond to them at this time. -Blazinghand PS I'm gonna work on making sure I'm logged into the right account ROFL | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
Yes, if we are discussing a plan or someone makes a case against someone we want to know everyone's opinion. but also town shouldnt post every thought on their mind. If I am not sure about someone and the case against him is really weak, no one will panic or get lynched. I think it is a viable strategy to wait till he comments on other people's cases, if pressured scum will be more careful. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
lol VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that. Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On April 22 2012 07:50 ghost_403 wrote: @BJ + Show Spoiler + lol VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that. Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch. So...will you vote VE or not? Will you vote Sentinel too or not? Why didn't you vote either of them? What are you waiting for? On April 22 2012 07:47 Ottoxlol wrote: gonzaw: Yes, if we are discussing a plan or someone makes a case against someone we want to know everyone's opinion. but also town shouldnt post every thought on their mind. If I am not sure about someone and the case against him is really weak, no one will panic or get lynched. I think it is a viable strategy to wait till he comments on other people's cases, if pressured scum will be more careful. Yes they shouldn't post every though on their mind, but they should comment something at least. Saying "I'm not convinced by X's case on Y" would suffice as well. If player Y is getting a lot of flak though, it would be wise to comment more thoroughly on the situation; either to cement Y's lynch if he thinks the cases are strong, or to convince people not to lynch Y and focus on other things if he thinks the case is weak. If doing so helps them establish their innocence then it's better for them to do it. Plus, scum are VERY likely to not do that and just fly by doing whatever they want. That is one of the signs I try to find in mafia (apathy, not caring about the game, etc). | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Paqman your either scum or stupid | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Mattchew has nothing of content in his filter, and I don't have anything substantial in my notes on him. It will be interesting to see if that improves as we get further into the game. | ||
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
His first post on return: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 04:02 marvellosity wrote: Woa, I go away and I rack up the votes. I'm up in my great nation's capital city right now celebrating a close friend's birthday, and yes I am sitting here on my laptop while other people are sitting around chatting and drinking, so I've missed all the excitement. That said, my one-liners didn't come across overly helpful. I've just read through the last 7 pages of this thread I've missed and I'm still trying to wrap my head around the vigi business. My one-liners were one-liners because I haven't had time to grasp the issue at hand yet. Anyway, I'm going to play around in notepad with this vig business so I can actually take a stance and get back to you in the next few hours. Meaningless. Worthless excuses. All excuses are always worthless. His so-called contributing post: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote: Alright, my thoughts before dinner. From reading a few filters, it seems that a couple of people have arrived at the same conclusion as I am about to - whatever merits gonzaw's plan has, it's kinda pointless if it isn't gonna be agreed on by everyone, and by this stage it's clear it's not going to be. I am glad of all the conversation that's been had on the matter, because it means going forwards people will be able to critically analyse flips and night kills, so if nothing else that's a positive to marker. One thing I didn't like about the whole gonzaw - VE exchange was VE's pretty bad breakdown of gonzaw's plan. It seemed to amount to this - if JK doesn't agree with the plan, then the plan is bad. But... the whole idea of the plan was that everyone agreed to it, so the JK was obviously on board, it was a terrible criticism. Looking further into VE's filter, I didn't see any further substantial objection, and he went forward to accusing gonzaw for his 'scumslip', which was at best minor, and can generally be read as unimportant. To MidnightGladius (and VE because he will understand due to being involved with me in Newbie VI) and others - regarding my 'meta'. Have a look at my Space Station Mafia filter - also full of one-liners and not a lot useful, where I was townie. This is a product of not really knowing or understanding what was going on. In Newbie VI, my play in the first half was somewhat directionless and scummy, to the point where both dead blues had strong suspicions of me, as did the last remaining townie in lylo. Only in the second half of the game where I had plenty of material to work with (I like filters) did I manage to find the scum and make a convincing case. In Mafia LI, I replaced in for the start of Day 2 - there was already a lot of material to work with. Rounding off quickly, Matt's case on Paqman - it doesn't seem to have much merit. Reading through the case, I asked myself 'could Paqman have posted all this as town?' - and my answer was yes, it was all perfectly feasibly townie. I should mostly be available to read questions for most of the evening, so if people would like to quiz me, go ahead. I would quite like not to be lynched before I've even got started. So... this post. This actually doesn't look so bad at first but let's take a quick look at the part where he pushes a scumread, or points out some scummy play, or pressures anyone, or does anything other than summarize things other people have already said and defend himself: NOTHING That's right, This post is several paragraphs of cunning worthlessness. You probably read it and were like "hey, Looks like Marv isn't actually scum after all" but that's cause YOU GOT FOOLED. this guy is hussling us. This post doesn't DO ANYTHING TO HELP THE TOWN IN EVEN THE MOST REMOTE FASHION. And it does so on purpose. "how is this possible, BlazingJitsu??" here let me explain for you: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/keNKF.png) Oh wait here let me be more specific: PARAGRAPH ONE On April 22 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote: Worthless summarizing. He pats us on the back though for talking! But really, worthless, patronizing summarizing.Alright, my thoughts before dinner. From reading a few filters, it seems that a couple of people have arrived at the same conclusion as I am about to - whatever merits gonzaw's plan has, it's kinda pointless if it isn't gonna be agreed on by everyone, and by this stage it's clear it's not going to be. I am glad of all the conversation that's been had on the matter, because it means going forwards people will be able to critically analyse flips and night kills, so if nothing else that's a positive to marker. PARAGRAPH TWO On April 22 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote: He states VE is like vaguely scummy but then says he's actually not, and neither is gonzaw. OH HEY THIS PARAGRAPH LITERALLY SAYS NOTHIGN. THIS PARAGRAPH LITERALLY SAYS NOTHINGOne thing I didn't like about the whole gonzaw - VE exchange was VE's pretty bad breakdown of gonzaw's plan. It seemed to amount to this - if JK doesn't agree with the plan, then the plan is bad. But... the whole idea of the plan was that everyone agreed to it, so the JK was obviously on board, it was a terrible criticism. Looking further into VE's filter, I didn't see any further substantial objection, and he went forward to accusing gonzaw for his 'scumslip', which was at best minor, and can generally be read as unimportant. PARAGRAPH THREE YOU PUNK ASS MOTHER BONERIZERS On April 22 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote: This paragraph also says nothing. He is arguing about his own meta.To MidnightGladius (and VE because he will understand due to being involved with me in Newbie VI) and others - regarding my 'meta'. Have a look at my Space Station Mafia filter - also full of one-liners and not a lot useful, where I was townie. This is a product of not really knowing or understanding what was going on. In Newbie VI, my play in the first half was somewhat directionless and scummy, to the point where both dead blues had strong suspicions of me, as did the last remaining townie in lylo. Only in the second half of the game where I had plenty of material to work with (I like filters) did I manage to find the scum and make a convincing case. In Mafia LI, I replaced in for the start of Day 2 - there was already a lot of material to work with. PARAGRAPH FOUR On April 22 2012 04:46 marvellosity wrote: Rounding off quickly, Matt's case on Paqman - it doesn't seem to have much merit. Reading through the case, I asked myself 'could Paqman have posted all this as town?' - and my answer was yes, it was all perfectly feasibly townie. I should mostly be available to read questions for most of the evening, so if people would like to quiz me, go ahead. I would quite like not to be lynched before I've even got started. THIS PARAGRAPH ALSO SAYS NOTHING. well, he says he might be around this evening or whatever. Marv, despite making two posts, one of which was decent sized, has actually NOT contributed since my original case against him. It just looks like he's contributing if you read his post quickly without thinking. This thing he's done? It's literally what scum would do. Marv is more certainly scum than he has ever been. In my mind, Marv is the scummiest scum scum scum in this game, and it's blantantly obvious to anyone who gives his filter and his recent "contributions" even a cursory analysis. ##STILL VOTING: MARVELLLOSITY ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RIH0y.jpg) ##STILL STILL VOTING: MARVELLLOSITY -Blazinghand | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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BlazingJitsu
United States112 Posts
why thank you "can I see the original case against Marv also? I mean, I'm gonna be voting him anyways since he's definitely scum, since I took lik 5 minutes to read his filter and realize he's scum, but I want to see the original case too" oh, that's no problem. Here you go: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128¤tpage=14#270 + Show Spoiler [The Original Case] + On April 21 2012 20:13 BlazingJitsu wrote: Marvellosity. Let me talk to you. No correction let me talk AT you. what are you doing this game? Let's look at your filter + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2012 09:05 marvellosity wrote: Mattchew, I thought we were gonna have a long, happy, and romp-filled relationship, then you make me click on multiple spoilers. On April 21 2012 10:23 marvellosity wrote: I've tried to think of a bunch of different scenarios and I've not yet managed to picture one where mafia couldn't claim the same situation. The only way a vigi really clears himself is by shooting scum :/ On April 21 2012 10:33 marvellosity wrote: Holy gonzaw post. Nice ^--- These posts are short and worthless. ^--- this post is actually correct, but interestingly, despite the fact that it's the right time to talk about the game mechanics... you never talk about the game mechanics. You ask some unhelpful questions and echo worthless obvious shit other people have said, but otherwise you're deadweight. Where's your contributions, Marv? Where's the discussion that it is "absolute the right time" to talk about? or do you only have inane questions? ^=== HOLY SHIT this question is bad. holy shit. Of course there's good circumstances to make a vig shot! SHOOT A SCUM GUY. Christ. Even if you shoot a godfather, at least that's a data point (not quite a DT check's worth, because it might hasve been roleblock), and if you shoot a goon, hey, you shot a goon. Are you TRYING to be as unhelpful as possible? Are you TRYING to actively inhibit our blue roles? Surely if so it's through neither quality of prose nor persistence in communicating the ideas contained therein with your miniscule cumuluative post length. Typically this is where I say "you can do better, marv" but really, ANYONE could do better. You're shitting on the town and trying to build up a post count without saying ANYTHING. You're lurking in plain sight. ##vote: marvellosity. -Blazinghand "omg you mak me so hot i want to have ur babies" um no ty -Blazinghand | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Paragraph 1: The reasonable conclusion a townie would come to. What do you want me to do? Come out on the side of a plan that can't work without entire town vote which it doesn't have? No. Paragraph 2: I found VE's objection and lack of continuing through bad. Do I find it somewhat scummy? Yes. Do I have an entire case to present on the matter? No. Paragraph 3: Arguing against my own meta? I'm not arguing against anything. I am explaining, and you can bloody well go and look for yourself and confirm every word. Paragraph 4: There was a case made, and I explained fairly obviously why I didn't find the case valid. ??? Get a grip. | ||
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