Who in hell gets nearly an entire scum team 20 hours in when there are several players who have postscounts <4 and nearly all of the discussion has been policy/flaming?
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Who in hell gets nearly an entire scum team 20 hours in when there are several players who have postscounts <4 and nearly all of the discussion has been policy/flaming? | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 21 2012 07:03 Dirkzor wrote: If the rest of the game is as stupid as the first 3 post this is going to get ugly... The positive part is that I already have something to critisize... Good job on starting discussion. You imply you have something to add to the discussion and criticize what was happening (opening votes). You then say nothing about it and then criticize again while offering nothing: On February 21 2012 07:15 Dirkzor wrote: This was not called Storm mafia without reason... What a shit storm. While I agree with VE that spamming not particularly pro town, I think its far to early to vote on anyone for that reason. Also because its anti town does not mean its scum... And I would much rather kill scum then anti town players. While being anti-town does not mean a person is scum, scum, by definition, play anti-town since they are pushing their own agenda. But whatever, that's semantics. Fast forward 12 hours later and you still say nothing and take no real sides. You say my change from tyrran to redFF is flip floppy but only call redFF's scummy unvote of tyrran when placed under pressure as only "weird". You also call Kita's Tyrran-redFF switch weird when he did the exact thing I did (opening vote/pressure vote into real vote). That's some double standard yo. On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote: RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much. Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided. I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy... You then talk about how you have nothing to add, an attitude that is very different from the one you had in your first few posts. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
And then in your last two posts,you then talk about how you have nothing to add, an attitude that is very different from the one you had in your first few posts. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
Read the whole case and chaoser defence here. Below is the end of that post. On February 22 2012 04:48 chaoser wrote: Once again, not a random swap, once I acknowledged that I misread VE and DrH's posts, I realized VE is 100% correct in not only calling out redFF but also saw that redFF was misrepresenting facts (one of the reasons why I misread/switched VE and DrH's post) Add in his bullshit defense and the vote was justified. So it was AFTER you realized you had misread that you changed your vote? Not quite. + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2012 08:56 chaoser wrote: VE said he was voting for red as a policy lynch. He then criticizes red, not for his one liners, but by saying: That is a direct criticism of red's policy lynch push on tyrran. I never said that he accused redFF of being scum for supporting a PL, I'm only saying that he's criticizing redFF of doing something that he himself did as well (Putting votes on a policy lynch). That point is factual. At the same time, I understand the nuanced subtle difference between the two given VE's immediate switch from policy lynch to scum-read. That's just good pressure play. Either way, I want to clarify what actually happened so as to not misrepresent the situation. lol, this is scummy as fuck. ##vote: redFF In that post you are still arguing with VE/DrH about whether or not VE was being a hypocrite or not. Also in that post you vote for RedFF. Next post: On February 21 2012 09:05 chaoser wrote: Also, your unvote of tyrran was pretty bad redFF and seemed extremely defensive. His post wasn't a good enough post to un-pressure vote. I would never get off him from my vote because his post was NOT good. You seems to have changed your mind about RedFF here. Next: On February 21 2012 09:08 chaoser wrote: Oh lol, my bad. I went back to check and indeed you did not say that. My fault. sorry lol This is were you realize something is wrong and you quoted the wrong dude. Some few post later: On February 21 2012 10:33 chaoser wrote: yes. i take it back, i misread. I dunno why WBG is buddying me though. I think I'm playing decently well though, but I think you're doing better (aka I think you're townine ATM). Now that the mixup have been cleared VE is suddenly a player doing good. While I admit that its not a huge issue I don't understand why you would lie about it? Why not just "I thought VE was being a hypocrite but then RedFF's posting turned to shit so I voted him. Later i realized I was wrong and VE was right." | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Can we see a lynch-list from everyone? Mine's trash and I'm going back through the thread now - but I'd like to see a list of dudes you guys are willing to lynch to see if we can make something happen. | ||
Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I called what Kita did double sided. I called what you did flip floppy. Basicly the same thing. And how can you compare my posts that was done 5-15 in into the game with someone made 12 hours later? You say that I don't take side. That is correct because I found both sides stupid and none of them particularly more scummy then then other. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:01 Dirkzor wrote: @Chaoser now you're just argueing semantics... I called what Kita did double sided. I called what you did flip floppy. Basicly the same thing. And how can you compare my posts that was done 5-15 in into the game with someone made 12 hours later? You say that I don't take side. That is correct because I found both sides stupid and none of them particularly more scummy then then other. bullshit, those are not the same things, especially in the way you worded and structured that post. You didn't say, both kita and chaoser are doing something Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided. This is completely different from this: I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy.. You see no "scumminess" but then add in the throwaway line about me being flip floppy? That's noncommittal 101 right there. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 22 2012 05:56 Dirkzor wrote: I want to continue on Toad's case on Chaoser. Because Chaoser is lying! Read the whole case and chaoser defence here. Below is the end of that post. So it was AFTER you realized you had misread that you changed your vote? Not quite. + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2012 08:56 chaoser wrote: VE said he was voting for red as a policy lynch. He then criticizes red, not for his one liners, but by saying: That is a direct criticism of red's policy lynch push on tyrran. I never said that he accused redFF of being scum for supporting a PL, I'm only saying that he's criticizing redFF of doing something that he himself did as well (Putting votes on a policy lynch). That point is factual. At the same time, I understand the nuanced subtle difference between the two given VE's immediate switch from policy lynch to scum-read. That's just good pressure play. Either way, I want to clarify what actually happened so as to not misrepresent the situation. lol, this is scummy as fuck. ##vote: redFF In that post you are still arguing with VE/DrH about whether or not VE was being a hypocrite or not. Also in that post you vote for RedFF. Next post: You seems to have changed your mind about RedFF here. Next: This is were you realize something is wrong and you quoted the wrong dude. Some few post later: Now that the mixup have been cleared VE is suddenly a player doing good. While I admit that its not a huge issue I don't understand why you would lie about it? Why not just "I thought VE was being a hypocrite but then RedFF's posting turned to shit so I voted him. Later i realized I was wrong and VE was right." You're right. I misremembered what happened. My bad. | ||
Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I'm getting tired of argueing useless stuff with you chaoser. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Guys - enough bickering. Can we see a lynch-list from everyone? Mine's trash and I'm going back through the thread now - but I'd like to see a list of dudes you guys are willing to lynch to see if we can make something happen. RoL redFF Both subject to change. | ||
Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On February 21 2012 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ......NO U 101 ways to miss the point by VisceraEyes. On February 21 2012 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Ho boy, the thread died fast. That worries me a little, but that could just be paranoia. chaoser - so by your correction and apology, should I assume that you're no longer agreeing with red's assessment that I'm being a hypocrite? kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser? Jackal, BC, syllo, WBG, you guys care to weigh in on this? I mean, it's early but I'd have expected to hear what an idiot I am at least twice between those 4 players. Remember this post? He was jesting at what you said lol about him making fun of you. Way to get pious over something you caused. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
I won't be on much tomorrow so if i'm still leading in votes I'll claim before I go to bed tonight. | ||
risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Blazinghand
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United States25550 Posts
RoL imo. redFF may be worthless but at least he's posting | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:18 Dirkzor wrote: RoL seems fine to lynch but a bit to easy. He was AFK a lot in Purgatory aswell where he was Mafia but he did say post game that it was legitimatly busy with whatever. The game isn't even 20 hours in yet. I was busy last night. I should be able to put on a better show this game though. I'm catching up a bit, reading on page 13 right now. I dunno what the consensus is but from what I read so far RedFF seemed to be looking for an easy way to force a bad lynch and was generally acting scummy. After I catch up I will reread filters though. | ||
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