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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#261
On September 20 2011 03:32 zimz wrote:
no contracts are binding if you are under 18 in America(unless his parents signed), and since col is an American company they wont and can't do squat.


stephano is 18.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#262
Major mindgames. Unprofessional by both teams imo.

This still doesn't change that Stephano is a ridiculous player. I hope he continues improving regardless of what team he goes to.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
September 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#263
On September 20 2011 03:32 CatNzHat wrote:
Bad new Complexity... you're just as much of a slimy business as you appear

What? It's Millenium that goes against contracts, they're the bad guys. It's clearly Millenium that has pressured Stephano to stay with them even though he wants to join Complexity. Players have to honor their contracts.
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:34:47
September 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#264
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )
Progamer
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:35:19
September 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#265
What's slimey about what Complexity did?

They talked to a player who then signed a contract. What's objectionable about that?
WWfour
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom14 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#266
On September 20 2011 03:32 zimz wrote:
no contracts are binding if you are under 18 in America(unless his parents signed), and since col is an American company they wont and can't do squat.


Stephano is 18. If he's old enough to vote he's old enough to know what he's doing. People need to stop seeing him as this 14 year old still. He regretted leaving M and wants to run back. He shouldn't have signed a contract if he was under any doubts.
FluidKMC
Profile Joined April 2011
United States45 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#267
Sounds like Stephano is very impulsive. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. Seems like we can't get away from drama. Soon after all the puma, TSL, and NASL/S2Con drama ends we are on this now
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#268
On September 20 2011 03:32 zimz wrote:
no contracts are binding if you are under 18 in America(unless his parents signed), and since col is an American company they wont and can't do squat.


Problem is Stephano is 18. However Before we all jump on conclusions like "OMG Mill is a shady backhand dealer" or "CoL are a Group of slimy Business men" we should wait for more info to be released or Atleast a Statement From stephano him self, since i would be quite intreasted to hear what he has to say about this,
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
ShallNoiseUpon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:36:00
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#269
On September 20 2011 03:34 Naniwa wrote:
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )


Naniwa dropping truthbombs all up in this.


On September 20 2011 03:34 Cloud9157 wrote:
Major mindgames. Unprofessional by both teams imo.

This still doesn't change that Stephano is a ridiculous player. I hope he continues improving regardless of what team he goes to.


What exactly did coL do unprofessionally in this situation?
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#270
SO why did he decide to stay back?
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#271
quoted from complexity statement:
By no means do we want a player who does not want to be part of our organization but we can simply not allow players and organizations to completely disrespect the legal contractual process that ensures stability in our evolving sport.

i think this is well put. i cant see complexity still wanting stephano after this incident, but i think its right of them to want some sort of transfer fee or something. Otherwise, it just spits at the contracts pros sign.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#272
The only logical thing is to have him play for both teams with a specially designed half 'n half-jersey as MillenColin-Stephano.
They already named a band after him, it's in the prophets.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
September 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#273
That's awesome. Stick to your guns!
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#274
On September 20 2011 03:34 Naniwa wrote:
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )


noooo! He's an innocent cute cuddly french guy! He can do NOTHING even slightly remotely or vaguely "for the money" >: (
memes are a dish best served dank
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#275
On September 20 2011 03:29 Influ wrote:
dunno who is acting more dumb here, millenium for signing a contracted player or coL for talking about legal options 5 mins after they heard about that and talking in forums. you should both shut up, sleep one night and just talk to each other and maybe don't make such an drama on the back of an 18 year old...


coL claims they have been talking to stephano about this for 3-4 weeks now. Not 5 minutes so dont be so hard on them.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#276
ok this is just weird -.-
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:36:53
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#277
On September 20 2011 03:32 CatNzHat wrote:
Bad new Complexity... you're just as much of a slimy business as you appear


LOL Awesome! I Agree..



The Linked Statement Says it all

=================================
"Within the last hour Team Millennium announced that Stephano was remaining with their organization despite the fact he executed a legally binding contract with compLexity. We are extremely disappointed by this turn of events and are seeking more information while we evaluate our legal options with French counsel. By no means do we want a player who does not want to be part of our organization but we can simply not allow players and organizations to completely disrespect the legal contractual process that ensures stability in our evolving sport. "
=================================

Col is pissed...
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#278
On September 20 2011 03:34 Naniwa wrote:
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )


Yeah man like a said awhile ago. Patriots threatened to move to Connecticut but 30 minutes before the signing was final they bailed out because all they wanted was a shiny new stadium.
twitch.tv/medrea
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#279
On September 20 2011 03:35 ShallNoiseUpon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:34 Naniwa wrote:
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )


Naniwa dropping truthbombs all up in this.

It's funny cause I can't even tell if he approves or disapproves of the move.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
September 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#280
He's young and it's hard to know what's best for yourself. It's really weird how much of this stuff goes on but I think it's often the player's fault but not with intentions of screwing everything up. It's hard to blame the teams either since they are always excited to have a new star and of course they want to announce it before everyone already knows since information travels pretty fast on the internets.

IMO Stephano was approached by Complexity, offered more money to play for their team, did not say to Millenium management that I'm going to this team unless you match their offer because he's young and it's hard to say that yourself (it takes a lot of balls for that kind of thing and in rare occasions it could really blow up in your face), then signed a contract only to have Millenium hear of his plans too late and match the offer of Complexity. I think there was a big gap in communication between the teams and the player that should not have happened but did happen. I only wish the best for Stephano with whatever team he plays for.
"Makin' Pylons, Makin' Probes, Fightin' Round The World" - Russell Crowe
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