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On October 01 2012 00:50 Rannasha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 00:01 ellsworth wrote:
i also have a question for the thread. am i just used to poor people cuz im american? how do ppl all afford these machines? i mean most responsible adults who make money dont play video games all the time. there was an economic recession...r most kuddies living with mom where she subsidizes the internet electricity and food? or r u all just landed and estsblished rich boys? Spending $1000 on a nice computer every 2 years isn't really a major expenditure for most people that have a steady job and a reasonable spending pattern.
Laugh out loud. I bet you have an i7 and sli 570s. You recommend that the average gamer buy a 1000 dollar build because anything less is...well...less.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0be
How is this? Money is not an issue.
So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...)
PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB.
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On October 01 2012 09:09 ellsworth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 00:50 Rannasha wrote:On October 01 2012 00:01 ellsworth wrote:
i also have a question for the thread. am i just used to poor people cuz im american? how do ppl all afford these machines? i mean most responsible adults who make money dont play video games all the time. there was an economic recession...r most kuddies living with mom where she subsidizes the internet electricity and food? or r u all just landed and estsblished rich boys? Spending $1000 on a nice computer every 2 years isn't really a major expenditure for most people that have a steady job and a reasonable spending pattern. Laugh out loud. I bet you have an i7 and sli 570s. You recommend that the average gamer buy a 1000 dollar build because anything less is...well...less.
Please stop posting in this thread. You bring nothing useful with your posts. Also the average build here is usually around 700. We have an emphasis on quality, with longevity of foremost importance.
I also don't see a problem with a $1000 build every 2 years. If you do, you really need to stop living paycheck to paycheck.
It just happens that the enthusiasts also hold the knowledge that most who post in this tread for builds don't have, therefore there is no problem with enthusiasts having enthusiast machines.
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On October 01 2012 09:40 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:09 ellsworth wrote:On October 01 2012 00:50 Rannasha wrote:On October 01 2012 00:01 ellsworth wrote:
i also have a question for the thread. am i just used to poor people cuz im american? how do ppl all afford these machines? i mean most responsible adults who make money dont play video games all the time. there was an economic recession...r most kuddies living with mom where she subsidizes the internet electricity and food? or r u all just landed and estsblished rich boys? Spending $1000 on a nice computer every 2 years isn't really a major expenditure for most people that have a steady job and a reasonable spending pattern. Laugh out loud. I bet you have an i7 and sli 570s. You recommend that the average gamer buy a 1000 dollar build because anything less is...well...less. Please stop posting in this thread. You bring nothing useful with your posts. Also the average build here is usually around 700. We have an emphasis on quality, with longevity of foremost importance. I also don't see a problem with a $1000 build every 2 years. If you do, you really need to stop living paycheck to paycheck. It just happens that the enthusiasts also hold the knowledge that most who post in this tread for builds don't have, therefore there is no problem with enthusiasts having enthusiast machines.
Aside from a few people who generally are actually trying to have another argument in the subtext of what they're saying, isn't the more common complaint that people here are too much of psychotic penny pinchers who don't want anyone to buy a powerful machine?
The irony isn't lost on me.
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On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB.
If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports.
What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit.
You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs.
What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink?
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On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB.
Beyond no. All I needed to see is a $438.99 motherboard, then I deduced the rest of the build is therefore worthless. More money thrown at components does NOT mean a better computer. There are some programs that will only work good with professional graphics cards (all about the drivers). I don't know much beyond consumer products so I'll let somebody else answer this.
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On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink?
By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it.
I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice.
The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended.
I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it.
Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with.
If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know.
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So i am thinking of having a gaming system built for me and i was wondering if you guys could judge. I have had a non gaming rig so i am kinda new to building a high end rig. Money is not really an issue (trying to keep myself under 2500 though) but i dont want to spend money just to spend it.
+ Show Spoiler [ My Rig] +CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light (Red Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance (UV Red Color )
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: * 120 GB Kingston HyperX 3K SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (2GBx8) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX )
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Sabertooth X79 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ TUF Armor, UEFI BIOS, SSD Caching, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
PRICE: (+2338)
Is it worth it for what i am getting for what i am paying. I know they charge you a little more then if you built it yourself but that is not really an option for me. IF they are really overcharging me though, like i could do this for 1500 i will find a way.
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On October 01 2012 10:13 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink? By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it. I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice. The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended. I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it. Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with. If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know.
Yes I know what you meant but isn't what you're doing the very definition of spend money just to spend.. paying ~$250 more for extra SATA ports? If your software doesn't make use of hex cores than that's fine, you can still get a 3820 with a X79 that offers twice as much SATA ports as the P8Z77-V Premium. You could also just use add-on cards.
On October 01 2012 12:05 Quintum_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So i am thinking of having a gaming system built for me and i was wondering if you guys could judge. I have had a non gaming rig so i am kinda new to building a high end rig. Money is not really an issue (trying to keep myself under 2500 though) but i dont want to spend money just to spend it. + Show Spoiler [ My Rig] +CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light (Red Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance (UV Red Color )
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: * 120 GB Kingston HyperX 3K SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (2GBx8) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX )
MOTHERBOARD: (4-Way SLI Support) ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, UEFI BIOS, BT GO, OC Key, Subzero Sense & 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
PRICE: (+2490) Is it worth it for what i am getting for what i am paying. I know they charge you a little more then if you built it yourself but that is not really an option for me. IF they are really overcharging me though, like i could do this for 1500 i will find a way
Looks like you're spending money just to spend it.
There's no need for a full tower case unless you plan on adding some dozen HDDs or do some enthusiast stuff like custom liquid and quad SLI.
There's no need for a high-end board, you don't even know what more than half the features do and chances you're going to use them are slim to none.
Using an unknown 800w power supply with $2000 worth of components.. not a smart idea.
Gaming does not need 16gb of memory.
Gaming does not need a hex core.
Get a larger SSD or an HDD along with the 120gb SSD. Unless you only play like one or two games, chances are you're going to run out of space with a single 120gb SSD.
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On October 01 2012 13:23 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 10:13 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink? By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it. I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice. The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended. I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it. Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with. If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know. Yes I know what you meant but isn't what you're doing the very definition of spend money just to spend.. paying ~$250 more for extra SATA ports? If your software doesn't make use of hex cores than that's fine, you can still get a 3820 with a X79 that offers twice as much SATA ports as the P8Z77-V Premium. You could also just use add-on cards. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 12:05 Quintum_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So i am thinking of having a gaming system built for me and i was wondering if you guys could judge. I have had a non gaming rig so i am kinda new to building a high end rig. Money is not really an issue (trying to keep myself under 2500 though) but i dont want to spend money just to spend it. + Show Spoiler [ My Rig] +CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light (Red Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance (UV Red Color )
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: * 120 GB Kingston HyperX 3K SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (2GBx8) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX )
MOTHERBOARD: (4-Way SLI Support) ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, UEFI BIOS, BT GO, OC Key, Subzero Sense & 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
PRICE: (+2490) Is it worth it for what i am getting for what i am paying. I know they charge you a little more then if you built it yourself but that is not really an option for me. IF they are really overcharging me though, like i could do this for 1500 i will find a way Looks like you're spending money just to spend it. There's no need for a full tower case unless you plan on adding some dozen HDDs or do some enthusiast stuff like custom liquid and quad SLI. There's no need for a high-end board, you don't even know what more than half the features do and chances you're going to use them are slim to none. Using an unknown 800w power supply with $2000 worth of components.. not a smart idea. Gaming does not need 16gb of memory. Gaming does not need a hex core. Get a larger SSD or an HDD along with the 120gb SSD. Unless you only play like one or two games, chances are you're going to run out of space with a single 120gb SSD.
I see, ty that helps a lot. Being doing research to see what i need but it is kinda hard not knowing what is good. While i could get myself a 4k-5k computer i know i would not use a 20th of what those computers would do. Was trying to do a middle ground at 2k but i guess even that is overkill. I picked a high end motherboard cause i figured it would give room to upgrade it in the future.
At least that i what i was trying to do, build something that gave me lots of room to upgrade in the future should i want to. Like running duel GFX card with crossfire or something like that i think.
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On October 01 2012 13:23 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 10:13 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink? By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it. I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice. The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended. I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it. Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with. If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know. Yes I know what you meant but isn't what you're doing the very definition of spend money just to spend.. paying ~$250 more for extra SATA ports? If your software doesn't make use of hex cores than that's fine, you can still get a 3820 with a X79 that offers twice as much SATA ports as the P8Z77-V Premium. You could also just use add-on cards.
Okay, excluding the MB and CPU, how is everything else? If there are things that aren't right, please let me know what would work better.
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On October 01 2012 13:55 Quintum_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 13:23 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 10:13 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink? By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it. I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice. The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended. I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it. Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with. If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know. Yes I know what you meant but isn't what you're doing the very definition of spend money just to spend.. paying ~$250 more for extra SATA ports? If your software doesn't make use of hex cores than that's fine, you can still get a 3820 with a X79 that offers twice as much SATA ports as the P8Z77-V Premium. You could also just use add-on cards. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 12:05 Quintum_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So i am thinking of having a gaming system built for me and i was wondering if you guys could judge. I have had a non gaming rig so i am kinda new to building a high end rig. Money is not really an issue (trying to keep myself under 2500 though) but i dont want to spend money just to spend it. + Show Spoiler [ My Rig] +CAS: * Cooler Master HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light (Red Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance (UV Red Color )
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: * 120 GB Kingston HyperX 3K SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (2GBx8) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX )
MOTHERBOARD: (4-Way SLI Support) ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, UEFI BIOS, BT GO, OC Key, Subzero Sense & 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
PRICE: (+2490) Is it worth it for what i am getting for what i am paying. I know they charge you a little more then if you built it yourself but that is not really an option for me. IF they are really overcharging me though, like i could do this for 1500 i will find a way Looks like you're spending money just to spend it. There's no need for a full tower case unless you plan on adding some dozen HDDs or do some enthusiast stuff like custom liquid and quad SLI. There's no need for a high-end board, you don't even know what more than half the features do and chances you're going to use them are slim to none. Using an unknown 800w power supply with $2000 worth of components.. not a smart idea. Gaming does not need 16gb of memory. Gaming does not need a hex core. Get a larger SSD or an HDD along with the 120gb SSD. Unless you only play like one or two games, chances are you're going to run out of space with a single 120gb SSD. I see, ty that helps a lot. Being doing research to see what i need but it is kinda hard not knowing what is good. While i could get myself a 4k-5k computer i know i would not use a 20th of what those computers would do. Was trying to do a middle ground at 2k but i guess even that is overkill. I picked a high end motherboard cause i figured it would give room to upgrade it in the future. At least that i what i was trying to do, build something that gave me lots of room to upgrade in the future should i want to. Like running duel GFX card with crossfire or something like that i think.
High end boards don't offer you "lots of room" to upgrade. If you're only concerned with doing SLI than a $120-$160 board would do the exact same thing as a $300-$400 board.
A configuration capable of playing games on reasonably high settings (core i5 3570k, z77, 7850 / 7870 / gtx 660 / gtx 660 ti, 2x4gb) is under $1000 these days.
Maybe you should tell us what you're going to be doing if you want feedback..?
You need a k suffix processor to overclock.. so a 3770k.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73133&promoid=1210 is less expensive.
A 750w unit is not necessary for such a configuration. A quality 500w unit will have plenty of headroom for a single GPU configuration, something like the XFX Core Edition 550: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1210 If you plan on doing SLI than get a ~600w unit, the TXv2 for example: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58381&promoid=1210
Unless you have a special need / want ffrom the P8Z77-V, a less expensive model (not ASUS) would be fine.
On October 01 2012 14:17 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 13:23 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 10:13 Ercster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 01 2012 09:51 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 09:21 Ercster wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j0beHow is this? Money is not an issue. So you have some insight as to what I'ld be using it for. Media storage, gaming, and engineering (i.e. Autocad, Solidworks, Inventor, ...) PS: I need something that I can add HDD's and shit to, which is why the case is so big and is also why I choose the MB. If money is not an issue than build on X79 with a 3930k. I actually have no clue why you selected a $450 Z77 board for like two extra SATA ports when equivalent X79 boards offer twice as much SATA ports. What is the reasoning behind getting two separate 2x4gb kits instead of a 4x4gb kit or 2x8gb kit...? Just get a 2x8gb kit. You don't need a 1275w PSU. A Seasonic Platinum offers plenty of headroom for SLI GTX 670 and a dozen HDDs. What's with the cheap SSD and heatsink? By money not being an issue, I meant that I didn't have a limit, but I don't want to spend money just to spend it. I saw no use in getting the X79 chipset, but if the X79 isn't too much more, then fine. A MB recommendation would be nice. The RAM kits were based off what a friend recommended. I don't need much SSD space, and I don't want to have to deal with liquid cooling. Everywhere I looked said that was a really good HS+F, so I choose it. Out of the little knowledge I have about computer hardware, I know the least about PSU's and how much power shit takes, so I just said "fuck it," and picked the brand name that I was most familiar with. If you have better recommendations to any of the build, please let me know. Yes I know what you meant but isn't what you're doing the very definition of spend money just to spend.. paying ~$250 more for extra SATA ports? If your software doesn't make use of hex cores than that's fine, you can still get a 3820 with a X79 that offers twice as much SATA ports as the P8Z77-V Premium. You could also just use add-on cards. Okay, excluding the MB and CPU, how is everything else? If there are things that aren't right, please let me know what would work better.
Like I said before,
You want 2x8gb kits if you are building a new configuration. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231556
A Seasonic Platinum is plenty for SLI and a dozen HDDs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151105 The 1000w unit is only $20 more than the 860w unit so meh.
The rest is fine I guess. The Hyper 212+ is going to look out of place but meh.
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following situation:
at my current system i have good fps in SC2 everytime
EXCEPT when i have 200 suplly fights at both sides especially against zerg, then it drops to_8_fps
there is no chance for microing with this fps in this lategame-macro fights
ofc i play on lowest video settings
things i tried: lower the resolution; adjusting the variables.txt (up to make looking the game really horrible (like broodwar or sth like this); overclocking the gpu; adding 2gb ram; closing EVERYTHING beyond sc2..... but nothing really affected my fps in theese special situations, the best i had was extra 2fps, so that it was 10 and not 8 fps in theese fights...
i think that the reason for the fact that my changes dont affect the fps noticeable is that my cpu is limiting my fps?!
thats why i plan to buy a new CPU first (if i would need a new motherboard for it i would buy it too)
my current system is:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @2,2ghz ----- overclocked to 3ghz
motherboard: ASRock P5B-DE
RAM: 2GB DDR2 dualchannel
GPU: Radeon HD 4870 with 1GB and 750MHz-GPU-clockrate / 900MHz-memory-clockrate------ LITTLE bit overclocked to 770MHz-GPU / 800MHz-memory
PSU: Arctic Fusion 550R
Case: random miditower with 2 case-fans (one in the front leeching and one in the back blowing)
HDD: enough space with 3 HDD's: 1 S-ATA; 2 IDE (SCII and winxp is stored at the same IDE HDD) every HDD was fragmented by the windows fragmentation tool a few days ago)
or do you have another idea which part i should upgrade first for dont have the above mentioned issue?
REQUIREMENTS:
so i want to have a CPU which is able to run SC2 at low settings without fps-drops under 25fps (even not in 200-200 battles in tvz oncreep), and a motherboard too if its not avoidable
i would upgrade the other parts too if necessary for my requirements especially RAM, but later than the CPU only because of financial reasons
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What is your budget?
the amount i need for my above mentioned requirements NOT more
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What is your resolution?
i use: 1280*800; 1280*1024; 1440*900<- like this the most, depending on what screen i am playing with
also i only have 1 screen at one time at the moment
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What are you using it for?
i am using my computer for normal desktop working (firefox, teamspeak, skype, flash, watching movies ect)
but the mainpart ist playing starcraft 2 at the moment i am playing it at the lowest possible settings (without adjusting the variables.txt because it did not increase my fps at all)
i would like to stay on the low video settings except at the utmost the texture quality on middle/high (dont look the shiny/fancy/detailed look with high videosettings while playing)
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What is your upgrade cycle?
my last upgrade was at sc2: wol release, and i dont plan to upgrade before wc4/scIII if i get a hardware where sc2 goes for at least 25fps in 200/200 tvz battles on creept with low settings
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When do you plan on building it?
i plan to build it as soon as i get answers of you 
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Do you plan on overclocking?
my current system is overclocked (cpu and gpu) and i definitely plan to do it again if it lowers the price of the hardware i have to buy
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Do you need an Operating System?
NO, i am using win xp 32 bit and want to continue using it if i dont need more than 4gb ram (otherwise i dont need a OS too cause i would use xp 64 bit where i have a license of too)
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Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
i think not, only if this makes the choice of the GPU part cheaper, compared to the fps i will have with a better single videocard
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Where are you buying your parts from?
will use google to compare prices of the recommended hardware and buy at an online shop (i live in germany, europe)
thanks for reading, feel free to ask if you did not understand sth or need extra information, i tried my best to make the post as short as possible, but looks like i failed totally :p
p.s. if tl;dr just read the bold parts
NameLLess
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Hi guys, its been a long time since I lurked this awesome thread. I am going to build a new rig now since my current PC is falling apart. I hope you can give me some good feedback!
Mobo: I want a midend mobo to support Ivy bridge. I prefer ASUS.
CPU: I want a midend cpu like Intel i5 ivy bridge, but I can go for i7 if you suggest that is better for the longterm.
Case: NZXT Phantom Big Tower <-- Yes I want a white one.
RAM: 8GB, but not Kingston plz.
SSD: I want a small Intel ssd just for the OS to be on.
GPU: Geforce GTX 460 <--- Already have.
PSU: Corsair 1000W <---- Already have.
OS: Win 7 64 bit <---- Already have.
I have read this link on Toms Hardware, but didn't get easier.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
My budget is around 1000 dollars, but I will be happy if it can be cheaper
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On October 02 2012 06:48 InDaHouse wrote:Hi guys, its been a long time since I lurked this awesome thread. I am going to build a new rig now since my current PC is falling apart. I hope you can give me some good feedback! Mobo: I want a midend mobo to support Ivy bridge. I prefer ASUS.
CPU: I want a midend cpu like Intel i5 ivy bridge, but I can go for i7 if you suggest that is better for the longterm.
Case: NZXT Phantom Big Tower <-- Yes I want a white one.
RAM: 8GB, but not Kingston plz.
SSD: I want a small Intel ssd just for the OS to be on.
GPU: Geforce GTX 460 <--- Already have.
PSU: Corsair 1000W <---- Already have.
OS: Win 7 64 bit <---- Already have.
I have read this link on Toms Hardware, but didn't get easier. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.htmlMy budget is around 1000 dollars, but I will be happy if it can be cheaper
Mobo: ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 SLI CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 1149kr (Reason: Asus overpriced)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 Box 1838kr (As requested)
Case: NZXT Phantom FullTower No PSU White ATX 1189 kr (As requested)
RAM: Corsair Core i7/i5/i2 8GB Kit PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 2x240 DIMM 315 kr (Cheap, not Kingston)
SSD: Intel 520 Series 60GB SSD R:550/W:475 2.5" SATA-3 Reseller 615 kr (As requested)
5106 kr (4850 kr with sweclockers).AT CDON
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On October 02 2012 07:18 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 06:48 InDaHouse wrote:Hi guys, its been a long time since I lurked this awesome thread. I am going to build a new rig now since my current PC is falling apart. I hope you can give me some good feedback! Mobo: I want a midend mobo to support Ivy bridge. I prefer ASUS.
CPU: I want a midend cpu like Intel i5 ivy bridge, but I can go for i7 if you suggest that is better for the longterm.
Case: NZXT Phantom Big Tower <-- Yes I want a white one.
RAM: 8GB, but not Kingston plz.
SSD: I want a small Intel ssd just for the OS to be on.
GPU: Geforce GTX 460 <--- Already have.
PSU: Corsair 1000W <---- Already have.
OS: Win 7 64 bit <---- Already have.
I have read this link on Toms Hardware, but didn't get easier. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.htmlMy budget is around 1000 dollars, but I will be happy if it can be cheaper Mobo: ASRock Z77 EXTREME4 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 SLI CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 1149kr (Reason: Asus overpriced) CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 Box 1838kr (As requested) Case: NZXT Phantom FullTower No PSU White ATX 1189 kr (As requested) RAM: Corsair Core i7/i5/i2 8GB Kit PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 2x240 DIMM 315 kr (Cheap, not Kingston) SSD: Intel 520 Series 60GB SSD R:550/W:475 2.5" SATA-3 Reseller 615 kr (As requested) 5106 kr (4850 kr with sweclockers).AT CDONEdit: Shauni: That mobo is out of stock at cdon. I don't wanna be cheap on mobo, so come up with suggestions. And in what way is Asus overpriced?
Nice thanks! So is it worth to put more money on RAM than those you suggested?
Ps. Are you the same Shauni that used to stream BW and was A+ on Iccup? ds.
Edit: Mobo out of stock at cdon.com. I don't want to be cheap on a mobo, so give me some suggestions on good mobos
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On October 02 2012 01:43 Namelless wrote:+ Show Spoiler +following situation: at my current system i have good fps in SC2 everytime EXCEPT when i have 200 suplly fights at both sides especially against zerg, then it drops to_8_fps there is no chance for microing with this fps in this lategame-macro fights ofc i play on lowest video settings things i tried: lower the resolution; adjusting the variables.txt (up to make looking the game really horrible (like broodwar or sth like this); overclocking the gpu; adding 2gb ram; closing EVERYTHING beyond sc2..... but nothing really affected my fps in theese special situations, the best i had was extra 2fps, so that it was 10 and not 8 fps in theese fights... i think that the reason for the fact that my changes dont affect the fps noticeable is that my cpu is limiting my fps?! thats why i plan to buy a new CPU first (if i would need a new motherboard for it i would buy it too) my current system is:CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @2,2ghz ----- overclocked to 3ghz motherboard: ASRock P5B-DE RAM: 2GB DDR2 dualchannel GPU: Radeon HD 4870 with 1GB and 750MHz-GPU-clockrate / 900MHz-memory-clockrate------ LITTLE bit overclocked to 770MHz-GPU / 800MHz-memory PSU: Arctic Fusion 550R Case: random miditower with 2 case-fans (one in the front leeching and one in the back blowing) HDD: enough space with 3 HDD's: 1 S-ATA; 2 IDE (SCII and winxp is stored at the same IDE HDD) every HDD was fragmented by the windows fragmentation tool a few days ago) or do you have another idea which part i should upgrade first for dont have the above mentioned issue? REQUIREMENTS:so i want to have a CPU which is able to run SC2 at low settings without fps-drops under 25fps (even not in 200-200 battles in tvz oncreep), and a motherboard too if its not avoidable i would upgrade the other parts too if necessary for my requirements especially RAM, but later than the CPU only because of financial reasons ____________________________________________________________________________________________ What is your budget?the amount i need for my above mentioned requirements NOT more _________________________ What is your resolution?i use: 1280*800; 1280*1024; 1440*900<- like this the most, depending on what screen i am playing with also i only have 1 screen at one time at the moment __________________________ What are you using it for?i am using my computer for normal desktop working (firefox, teamspeak, skype, flash, watching movies ect) but the mainpart ist playing starcraft 2 at the moment i am playing it at the lowest possible settings (without adjusting the variables.txt because it did not increase my fps at all) i would like to stay on the low video settings except at the utmost the texture quality on middle/high (dont look the shiny/fancy/detailed look with high videosettings while playing) ____________________________ What is your upgrade cycle?my last upgrade was at sc2: wol release, and i dont plan to upgrade before wc4/scIII if i get a hardware where sc2 goes for at least 25fps in 200/200 tvz battles on creept with low settings ________________________________ When do you plan on building it?i plan to build it as soon as i get answers of you _____________________________ Do you plan on overclocking?my current system is overclocked (cpu and gpu) and i definitely plan to do it again if it lowers the price of the hardware i have to buy __________________________________ Do you need an Operating System?NO, i am using win xp 32 bit and want to continue using it if i dont need more than 4gb ram (otherwise i dont need a OS too cause i would use xp 64 bit where i have a license of too) __________________________________________________ Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?i think not, only if this makes the choice of the GPU part cheaper, compared to the fps i will have with a better single videocard _____________________________________ Where are you buying your parts from?will use google to compare prices of the recommended hardware and buy at an online shop (i live in germany, europe) thanks for reading, feel free to ask if you did not understand sth or need extra information, i tried my best to make the post as short as possible, but looks like i failed totally :p p.s. if tl;dr just read the bold parts NameLLess
If you upgrade the CPU you WILL need a new Motherboard AND RAM. Spending the money to overclock will significantly increase your budget unless you go with AMD, which is something you do not want to do based on your requirements. Your GPU is plenty strong enough.
Therefore you want an i3-3220, H77 or B75 Motherboard and 4GB of DDR3-1600 1.5v RAM. I don't see this costing more than 215 euros.
If you still want to overclock you will need a i5-3570k, Z77 Motherboard, 4/8GB of RAM and an aftermarket CPU Cooler (such as a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus/EVO. This will cost over 300 euros.
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Just wanted to post in my new comp!! love you guys keep it up everything works like a charm and my system looks pretty sick ^_^
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What are your thoughts on microATX? Thinking about getting <MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS> because it is available for quite cheap right now.
I'm probably going to get i5-3570k and gtx660 with it.
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