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On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments.
Never normally post, but after reading that I feel like I have to. You've taken what someone has said about a specific subject, and then started applying it to a completely different one. Just because someone's logic dictates one thing in one circumstance, doesn't mean it's applicable in others.
His argument is that as it's his stream he should be able to use the language he wants. As it comes with the warning, I hardly see the problem. Based off YOUR logic shouldn't you be trying to sue porn sites or something? They are easy to access for anyone under the required age, and I would've thought a greater evil than Destiny's stream. And I don't often see people screwing in public, so they clearly don't understand the social norms as much as you do..
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I bet he wants to watch Destiny's stream but the wife is cracking the whip.
Hchwa-tssssschhh!
Seriously though, why would you expect to come in here and change Destiny's mind at this point? What were you trying to achieve...
o.O
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On June 17 2011 19:15 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 19:04 iCanada wrote:On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments. I feel like that isn't using Destiny's logic at all, that is using your own. Destiny has clearly said that he shall use cleaner language in public places (such as the police station), however not within his private stream. Is that not fairly similar to wearing a swim suit at the beach but being naked at home? Watching Destiny's stream isn't at all comparable to going to the beach. If anything it is more like having your neighbors peruse their own house in the nude with the blinds open. -snip- Your God bleeds.
I must say that so does my brain after reading your comments. All I can say, really, is good luck in your crusade.
Anyway, back on topic:
Loving the stream Destiny! Keep it up, and continue being awesome!~
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On June 17 2011 17:38 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
I don't know why u're saying CombatEx is so bad, when he clearly outplayed you.
Because when you stream snipe someone, that's a good sign of being able to outplay them in a legit game right?
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On June 17 2011 20:30 Pwnographics wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 17:38 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
I don't know why u're saying CombatEx is so bad, when he clearly outplayed you. Because when you stream snipe someone, that's a good sign of being able to outplay them in a legit game right?
Stream sniping != stream cheating, please make sure that you understand the differences.
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On June 17 2011 20:36 tgun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 20:30 Pwnographics wrote:On June 17 2011 17:38 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
I don't know why u're saying CombatEx is so bad, when he clearly outplayed you. Because when you stream snipe someone, that's a good sign of being able to outplay them in a legit game right? Stream sniping != stream cheating, please make sure that you understand the differences.
Oh and he was stream cheating too.
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On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:
There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance.
First of all, what do you mean there's no message? If Steven says a faggot is raping his nigger base with retarded marauders, the message is "I'm not pleased with the situation of marauders attacking my base". There is a message, you can't ever use language without a message. Ever. Not possible. There is no absolute meaning to any word. The meanings you look up on the dictionary are generally agreed upon, but not necessarily the only meanings of the words. Language is never that simple. For example, when I meet a friend of mine, I can say an outrageous profanity that is generally used as an insult, but all I mean is "Hi." and my friend will understand that. Because my friends are intelligent enough to understand the differentiation of meanings in different contexts (read: my friends are capable of communication).
Also, I see you mentioned social norms exist for an important reason. Such as? Or does it count as "more than happenstance" that we humans decided to invent them? I'll take you up on that example of "not wearing anything on the beach". Why is it important to be clothed at the beach? Why is it "not okay" to be naked at a beach?
And like Steven said, please separate the philosophical and the practical application of this. I DO wear clothing at the beach, but not because I think it's morally correct, but because I understand social norms and interaction with the law.
I'd also like to poing out that words (and other symbols) have no other meanings than the ones we, their users, give them. The word "fox" isn't magically connected to the animal, we've just agreed that that set of sounds and/or symbols in that order can be used to describe that certain kind of animal. Yet we've also agreed that the word "fox" can be used for an attractive female of the human species. That's just how communication works. It doesn't matter which term or symbol or word you use, as long as you get the message through. A lot of people don't seem to grasp this. Language is just a tool to convey a message. As long as you successfully convey the message (speak so that the listener understands it) it doesn't really make a difference how you used the tool, because the tool was invented for the sole purpose of delivering messages. Point is, language is a tool you use to get your point across. If you get your point across, it doesn't matter whether you used language "correctly", but using it as is generally agreed upon in the context certainly helps you communicate successfully. Which is why people have different speech registers for different situations. People don't talk to their friends in the same way they talk to their bosses.
My point is, if people understand what the speaker is saying (and in the case of Destiny, they clearly do) why get offended by something you know he didn't mean? And even if you DO misunderstand, it's still not necessarily the speaker's fault. If 1 man says something to 4000 people, 3900 of whom understand it correctly, is it the speaker's fault that 100 of them don't? Definitely not. Communication always requires 2 or more parties, and if the majority of them can communicate successfully, it's the minority's own responsibility to figure it out.
In theory. It doesn't work 100% like this in reality. As I said, I can appreciate the differences between philosophy and reality.
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<3 the stream, keep it up :D:D
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you suck shit for a person who rages that much, lmao get good then act like idra. pc nerd
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On June 18 2011 08:06 Kqpro wrote:
you suck shit for a person who rages that much, lmao get good then act like idra. pc nerd
you mad bro?
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On June 18 2011 09:06 Cryllic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 08:06 Kqpro wrote:
you suck shit for a person who rages that much, lmao get good then act like idra. pc nerd you mad bro?
get that cock out of ur mouth bro?
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lose game on stream, blame it on other guy screening, what a joke loser.
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On June 18 2011 09:32 Kqpro wrote:
lose game on stream, blame it on other guy screening, what a joke loser.
You don't think CombatEx is streamcheating? Rofl.
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On June 18 2011 09:32 Kqpro wrote:
lose game on stream, blame it on other guy screening, what a joke loser.
Hi CombatEX! You made a new account on TL I see.
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On June 18 2011 09:14 Kqpro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 09:06 Cryllic wrote:On June 18 2011 08:06 Kqpro wrote:
you suck shit for a person who rages that much, lmao get good then act like idra. pc nerd you mad bro? get that cock out of ur mouth bro?
when your as good as destiny you can bitch at him... but for the time being get the sand out of your vagina
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I feel like the title of this thread should be changed to [Stream] Destiny haha 
Honestly, I don't see why people are complaining about the way Destiny talks / acts. That's part of the reason most people watch him in the first place.
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On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments.
You clearly misunderstand the entire point. Again.
In public, when other people are by nature going to be impacted by what you say / do, then there are reasons to be respectful and follow societal norms. When you are in the privacy of your own home / stream / bed / whathaveyou then you are free to do what you want. If you want to never clean your house people might not want to go over and visit, but it is your prerogative to decide weather or not you should clean up. Just cause you don't clean up at home doesn't mean you litter all over sidewalks and nature parks though.
Are nude beaches bad inherently? Explain why. Don't cheat with a "lol you can't understand" or "it just is." Explain why. You can't.
So go ahead, you are an amazing father and I bet your kids will grow up well since you have real wisdom and discernment :-/
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Haha, he just ruined this VTFuture guy on stream, 4-0.
Picks Slag Pits, and proceeds to all in with probes. That was painful.
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fixed, was noscript problem
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I am so sorry to ask this here but, after searching for 30 minutes, I still haven't found anything. Is there some sort of list of the music Steven listens in his stream?
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